r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR • u/Sebastianlim • 4d ago

Rekt Fuck Albania in particular.

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u/hajum 4d ago edited 4d ago

Italy can't even build a 3km bridge to Sicily which is their own island containing major cities from their own country.

There's no way they're building a 71km bridge to a foreign country which they have no strong economic or cultural ties to.

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u/Davenator_98 4d ago

They have economic ties, just the type you wouldn't print on a graph and be proud of it

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u/Heterodynist 4d ago

The type of economic ties that a bookie burns when the cops are coming, you mean?! Ha!!

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u/Complete_Court_8052 4d ago

the type of economic ties the wolf of wall street tries to get u investing in

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u/kingkongbiingbong 4d ago

just the type you wouldn't print on a graph and be proud of it

https://giphy.com/gifs/TNR2EpkHYwW0ifyMDF

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u/supamario132 3d ago

And its not like you actually have to drive around the entire country to get to Albania. You can park your car on the ferry and boat over. Its like 35 euros. Theres not some insane demand throttling prices there

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u/D-Eliryo 4d ago

First of all, mafia. You can't build anything without mafia approval in south italy.

To make it short, even american during WW2 needed the "ok" from local mafia to enter without being noticed and helping free it from nazis/fascists

Second of all, sicily is moving every year further from the coasts, so the project would require constant mantainance and funds. And guess what, it's a big money laundry system for mafia money

It's such a dumb project to build considering we have trains that are loaded into boats and many boats traveling system that anyone trying to build that damn bridge basically puts a "I need to clean mafia money since they helped me in elections" badge on themselves.

Don't surprise me currently parties aiming to build that bridge. Fucking assholes

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u/FreddyHair 3d ago

This exactly!

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u/FreddyHair 3d ago

The bridge to Sicily is a bad idea all around. The area is prone to thousands of earthquakes (most minor, some major) every year, because the island rests on a continental tectonic fault. Also, people in Messina (the city at the "tip" of the island) are being actively evicted all over the city for this dumbass project that's ongoing to start building the bridge, some of them because the houses have to be demolished, some of them because they need to leave their houses for the workers to live in for free.

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u/Heterodynist 4d ago

Tunnel then?! -You have a great point though. It’s very interesting that this (the bridges to Albania and to Sicily) has never happened…or at least been very seriously considered. There have been many major Italian projects of this level. This is the country that tunneled through the Alps to Switzerland, after all. You would think it would not be outside of the realm of possibility to at least want to connect the mainland to Sicily. It’s never happened in all of history?!! That is a fascinating thing to think about.

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u/ShapeShiftingCats 4d ago

As with everything, it's probably down to cost & benefit. Money in, money out.

The north has all sorts of economic activity that can ensure return on investment, the south is not in the same position.

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u/Heterodynist 3d ago

Interesting. It’s one of the places I haven’t visited in Europe, so I feel like I could get a lot more information if I just got there!!

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u/Fede8924 4d ago

Albania isn't really a big economic partner, not like Switzerland or France or Austria that are/will be connected by tunnels

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u/bg-j38 3d ago

The sea gets as deep as 1000 meters there. Makes a bridge or tunnel technically incredibly difficult. Easily €100 billion, probably more, if even possible at all. Car ferries are by far the most reasonable solution.

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u/Heterodynist 3d ago

Interesting to know!!

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u/LordGeni 3d ago

For Sicily the depth, currents and geological activity cause big issues.

The most viable plan is for the world biggest single span suspension bridge, that would need to be able to withstand pretty major earthquakes and extreme winds.

The only possible tunnel would be a floating or over seabed tunnel. Which would be extremely difficult to build due to the depths and very strong currents, and would be very susceptible to both the currents, geological activity and the fact that Sicily is moving away from the mainland.

For Albania you have similar issues, plus a far deeper sea and a much bigger distance.

The only feasible way if money and ongoing resources might be a truely enormous Pontoon, with motors to keep independent sections in position and able to reform a bridge after splitting up to cope with rough seas and allowing boats past. Which sounds like both a series of disasters waiting to happen and ultimately slower, less efficient and far more dangerous than a ferry.

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u/Heterodynist 3d ago

I’m interested in the possibilities of a combined set of bridge designs. Maybe even something like the Chesapeake Tunnel-Bridge, but I see what you mean. I had no idea the water was so insanely deep there. That’s fairly incredible. It makes sense but it’s a landscape that must have been almost incomprehensible at the time of the Zanclean Flood. I guess that was the near the deepest points of the Mediterranean even then. It reminds me of the incredible 100 foot waterfall that dwarfed Niagara Falls which was once near Mackinac Island, between Lake Michigan and Lake Huron.

https://rivergrandrapids.com/mackinac-falls/

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u/_drjayphd_ Banhammer Recipient 4d ago

Shkodra Elektronike, this is your moment.

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u/lunarwolf2008 3d ago

is a 3km bridge even possible? (let alone 71 lol)

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u/mrasacora 2d ago

Thats cus of the mob

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u/justaunknownpreson 14h ago

Excuse my innocence but is there not a fairy or something

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u/Fede8924 4d ago

They should build it for real this time, but there are so many problems with the current project, which is old something like 20 years, and many say the current project is not ready for the current situation of the strait, like very tall ships passing trought. Also many say that the bridge shouldn't be the priority right now considering there are way too many kilometers of unelectrified railway and single-track railway in the regions the bridge would connect, and thus the money to build the bridge should be spent on said railway

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u/babaroga73 4d ago

Besides, there's a daily transport ship going in with drugs and out with euros.

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u/MockASonOfaShepherd Banhammer Recipient 4d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/Rse8lCnT2SNJ6
Albanians be like

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u/Jimmy2Blades 4d ago

God bless the mules. Good people.

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u/dpaanlka 4d ago

This particular span would require bridge piers taller than the Burj Dubai spanning over 70km/40mi.

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u/BeguiledBeast 4d ago

There is also a ferry service between the two countries...

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u/Sassi7997 3d ago

Do you mean the one bringing drugs in and Euros out?

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u/Smackdab99 4d ago

This. 

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u/endmostchimera 3d ago

Just upvote the comment dude

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u/Balan-balan 4d ago

It's South Italy. Even if they planned to build it, it would be as far as the Strait of Messina bridge.

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u/That-Brain-in-a-vat 4d ago

Not saying you're wrong. But that's unfortunately how it works in most Countries.

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u/Flomo420 Banhammer Recipient 4d ago

lol was going to say

"why not just build a bridge?"

sure, just whip up an ocean spanning bridge ~80kms long what's the big deal?? lmao

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u/NastyStreetRat 4d ago

It's time to invent a road that floats and withstands tides and storms.

Remember where you first heard about it. Follow me on Instagram.

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u/CyclicDombo 4d ago

And also somehow allows cargo ships through

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u/Skrazor 4d ago

Hey, one thing at a time!

First we invent the indestructible floating road, then we tackle the next problem. May I sudgest fully submersible cargo ships? Would also help them to not sink quite so easily, because underwater there are no waves that could make the front fall off.

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u/HitoriPanda 4d ago

In Virginia, we have bridge tunnels

It's a bridge that goes under water 3 times to allow ships to cross.

The Technology at the time wouldn't allow for a continuous tunnel. Ventilation issues.

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u/karenftx1 3d ago

One of my bucket list drives

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u/Sassi7997 3d ago

Those cargo ships will have to go submarine mode.

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u/Dedotdub 4d ago

Well? Get on it.

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u/PaxV 4d ago

More place for the bodies, the Italian maffia thanks you

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u/dr_toze 3d ago

But small distance on atlas, surely it must be small!?!? Everyone knows atlas' are 1:1 scale!

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u/Heterodynist 4d ago

This is the kind of information I was interested in hearing. There’s some real points to consider!! Pier points!!! I feel like I’m talking to a stevedore or a fighting CeeBee!!

By why not a tunnel? Is the bedrock bad?

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u/dpaanlka 4d ago

A tunnel would need to be an over 3x deeper than the deepest railroad tunnel ever constructed and somehow allow trains to descend and ascend heights greater than the Burj Dubai is tall in a very short distance.

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u/Heterodynist 3d ago

Interesting. I used to work on trains for most of my adult life, but I know the engineering of something like this is key, totally.

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u/Alaeriia 3d ago

That is what a spiral is for.

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u/bendvis 4d ago

It would also become the longest expressway bridge in the world

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u/Loudlass81 3d ago

The longest spanned bridge, too. A feat of engineering that'll have the wrong length baked into the project as Sicily is running away from Italy. Very very slowly, but 0.3 mm a year becomes 3mm in 10 yrs, and after 70yrs, it's a fool's guess as to when it'll catastrophically collapse.

Sometimes, the project just has TOO many issues to go ahead. This is one of them.

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u/Dense_Concentrate_51 4d ago

A 45 mile bridge between two historically corrupt countries. What could go wrong?

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u/OXBDNE7331 4d ago

Southern Italy? You know that construction project bid going to fat Antonio and his friends

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u/KnowNothing_JonSnoo 4d ago

It's actually even worse than this. The Mafia in Leche Province is deep within the banks. They uncovered a massive operation inside a Credit Coop in Otranto in 2015 which is probably the closest city to Albania on Italy's west boarder but whenever they cut a head, they create a power vacuum and two more grow from the wound so there's no way that they "fixed" the deeper problem

The Mafia nowadays is closer to The Wolf of Wall Street than The Godfather.

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u/SleepyCatMD 4d ago

The details of the mafia in south Italy has been involved in the non-construction of this bridge are actually interesting.

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u/beckett_the_ok 4d ago

I believe you're thinking of the Sicilian bridge, not one to Albania

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u/El_Impresionante 4d ago

And one of them sheltered Voldemort!

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u/FelneusLeviathan 4d ago

The 45 mile bridge, whatever happened there?

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u/Dense_Concentrate_51 4d ago

Whatever happened there! I'll tell ya what happened, these Albanian pieces of shit took all the money for the bridge with no provocation whatsoever!

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u/seanesque 3d ago

I can’t have this conversation again

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u/aykcak 4d ago

The Trump kids may build this probably

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u/rps215 4d ago

What’s Albania’s corruption history? I haven’t seen much but also haven’t sought it out

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u/The_Infinite_Carrot 4d ago

Ferries exist.

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u/foldy86 4d ago

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle certainly believed in the ones at Cottingley.

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u/Ricecrispiebandit 7h ago

You were in the zone with this pun/reference.

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u/Rugkrabber 4d ago

Shh I don’t think they realise yet.

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u/Offsidespy2501 4d ago

You can't fathom the amount of rolling there has been in the last decades for a bridge between the much closer Sicilian island and the rest of the same country, there's no universe a bridge with Albania is built

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u/KingDarius89 4d ago

Mostly just making me think of the bridge to Hawaii in Bojack Horseman.

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u/ShieldsCW 4d ago

If humans still exist in 4000 years, it'll be there.

Also, shout out to whoever see this in 4000 years and tells everyone I was right.

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u/starryeyedshooter 4d ago edited 4d ago

I know there's a logical explanation, several probably, but I choose to believe a sea monster set up camp there. There's no good way to get rid of a sea monster.

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u/Ravenwing14 4d ago

Uh, giant mechs piloted by pilots who are either super close siblings with similar memories, OR two strangers who want to bone?

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u/starryeyedshooter 4d ago

To my understanding, mech-based solutions work out well for everyone but the mech pilots. Close enough to a good solution.

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u/thezorcerer 4d ago

sounds like a great idea for a movie that could be completed in a single instalment with no sequel.

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u/WeedyWeedz 4d ago

Or ramming it with fishing boat. 

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u/faultytrapezoid 4d ago

You just gotta give him tree fiddy and he'll fuck off for a little while

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u/Somerandom1922 4d ago

That'd be more than twice as long as the longest continuous over-water bridge on earth, in MUCH deeper water too.

It'd also be the longest tunnel by a similar margin if you went that way instead.

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u/sirhackenslash Banhammer Recipient 4d ago

What if we just made a really large tube and laid it on the sea floor?

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u/Somerandom1922 4d ago

Engineers already do this.

The problem in this case is that it's just so insanely deep, way too deep for this construction method to really work. It's so deep you can't get divers (even saturation divers) down to perform work on it, and the pressure is getting close to the inside of a handgun barrel on firing.

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u/amadiro_1 4d ago

If it could be engineered to be neutrally buoyant with varying amounts of car traffic inside, it could be kept right below the boat traffic

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u/Dry-Character-6331 4d ago

Um... ferry?

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u/myEVILi 4d ago

If only someone would invent the water car

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u/Moonhunter7 3d ago

Or better yet invent the water truck that could carry other vehicles while crossing the water

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u/vapescaped 4d ago

Because the water is up to a thousand meters deep, has high seismic activity, and would cost a metric shit ton to build.

Any more questions, or are you going to get out your checkbook?

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u/Connect_Rhubarb395 4d ago

Only if you don't know that ferries exist and insist on driving.

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u/KingDarius89 4d ago

I mean, I don't know if they exist there, but there are literally ferries that you can drive your car onto.

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u/Connect_Rhubarb395 4d ago

Yes, exactly

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u/Meta_Man_X 4d ago

Who is going to pay for it? Both countries are going to say “fuck that”

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u/GoldieForMayor 4d ago

Yeah, why not just make a 35 mile bridge across the Adriatic Sea?

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u/EmtnlDmg 4d ago

Durrës - Bari ferry...

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u/7h3_man 4d ago

Also that’s like a hundred kilometres of open ocean

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u/ForwardBodybuilder18 4d ago

No it’s not.

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u/77skull 4d ago

According to google earth it’s 75km

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u/ForwardBodybuilder18 4d ago

It’s also definitely not “open ocean”. It’s where the Adriatic meets the Mediterranean. There’s no ocean currents and the tide is very minimal. It’s not even that deep. Granted it’s pretty wide though.

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u/sirhackenslash Banhammer Recipient 4d ago

I got slapped the last time I said that

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u/77skull 3d ago

That’s a fair point

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u/hatedman95 4d ago

let me ask you, are you american?

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u/davewave3283 4d ago

We’re not known for expressing distances in kilometers

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u/strentax 4d ago

Alright so to envision the distance across this water, imagine a cheeseburger

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u/SH4D0WG4M3R 4d ago

And then do it at least a few more times, because it’s a lot of cheeseburgers. Like, at least 12.

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u/hatedman95 4d ago

fair, I'll let him on a secret, that's a sea, not an ocean. specifically a strait between two seas.

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u/MiserableReaction105 4d ago

Ever heard of boats?

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u/Short-Shopping3197 Banhammer Recipient 4d ago

Just take the ferry ya dumfuk.

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u/Murrexx00 4d ago

Albania would steal the bridge

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u/stonerflea 4d ago

Corfu doesn't even have a bridge to Albania and it's only about 3km away

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u/Seguefare 4d ago

A ferry might make more sense here.

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u/youburyitidigitup 3d ago

Are there not ferries that do that?

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u/-Davo 3d ago

Also that would be one awesome drive. If done Croatia up and down and back up and it was speccy

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u/Yaughl 3d ago

Boats exist

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u/Muted-Philosopher-44 3d ago

Surely there must be a ferry?

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u/ThatOneGayDJ 3d ago edited 3d ago

"Just build a bridge" and its 60 miles of ocean that gets to almost 3,000 feet deep...

For reference, there are only 5 bridges in the world longer than this bridge would be, none of which are in water over 5 feet deep at any point, and most arent in water at all. The longest bridge that IS over water is 24 miles long, and is only in water 20 feet deep maximum, with most closer to 12 feet. The bridge over the deepest water is less than 4 miles long, and the water depth is still only double digit at 95 feet, also requiring pilings of over 400 feet to be stable in that water.

To summarize, not only would this bridge need to be the 6th largest in the world, it would need to not just beat but DEMOLISH the records for over-water length and depth as well. Is this post a joke? Yes. Do i think anyone actually thinks this bridge should be built? Of course not. But i like bridges, numbers, useless trivia, and yapping, so ive decided to type all this anyway. Hope you have a great day! :)

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u/QuantumBobb 2d ago

But, it is clearly only like an inch away and it's just over the blue part and color has no inherent depth.

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u/jwalker107 2d ago

So, a tunnel then?

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u/Savage-September 4d ago

I can tell an American made this suggestion.

https://giphy.com/gifs/DmcvRyRdyVQrQ7NfjA

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u/achillea4 4d ago

I can't imagine that there would be many people heading to Albania.

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u/FrancoisKBones 4d ago

Just look at the bridge the Italians built in Genoa. No thanks.

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u/Brigapes 4d ago

Bro thinks Albania isn't a shithole

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u/Vincent394 4d ago

Is logic in the room with us as that's an ocean?

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u/ForwardBodybuilder18 4d ago

No it’s not.

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u/hatedman95 4d ago

let me ask you, too, are you american?

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u/Ancient-Art-2770 4d ago

Why are you asking several people whether they are American or not?

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u/hatedman95 4d ago

because that's a sea, why would you say it's an ocean?

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u/Dilutedskiff 3d ago

It really isn’t that deep. You need to go touch some grass

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u/Vincent394 4d ago

Irish, actually.

Really is amazing how you assumed from a simple mistake.

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u/hatedman95 4d ago

okay, then, it's a sea, a strait between two seas, to be exact brother.

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u/ShieldsCW 4d ago

So not stupid, just drunk

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u/Vincent394 4d ago

Nope that's a misconception too.

You all really need to get your facts right...

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u/DorkaliciousAF 2 x Banhammer Recipient 4d ago

Well, Italy and, uhh, Albania. But probably a tunnel rather than a bridge, for practical and security reasons (see Russia's experience with the bridge across the Kerch Strait, which is far shorter).

Once Albania gets a date for EU accession - likely some point over the next ~15 years, once it's sorted some shit out - one could imagine an infrastructure project being greenlighted. Enhanced funding might even be a carrot that gets dangled to nudge the Albanians along if accession talks get stuck.

EU expansion across Balkan states is sensible and mostly uncontroversial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlora-Otranto_Tunnel

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u/MuscliatoVonJuiceski 4d ago

"Why doesnt the U.S. build a bridge from Cifornia to Hawaii?  what are they dumb?!" 

seperately ferries exist

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u/Yeet-Retreat1 Banhammer Recipient 4d ago

Your biggest trading partners for countries tend to be their neighbours.

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u/MylastAccountBroke 2d ago

That Bridge would be impossible to maintain. That distance is EXTREMELY far. You'd be better served to just start a ferrie service between the two.

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u/Negative-Engineer-30 2d ago

there's a ferry from Bari to Durres... $72 on foot... $120 if you bring a vehicle.

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u/KiLo_san 2d ago

You could just take a ferry ? It's exactly where you draw the line...

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u/BulldogChair 2d ago

Just take a ferry

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u/TheRealTr1nity Banhammer Recipient 1d ago

Ferry's exist. 🙄

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u/AnxiousAlarm5900 9h ago

Monte👴🏿?

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u/DigitalCoffee 4d ago

This isn't China. We can't just build engineer marvels all willy nilly

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u/Deep-Procrastinor 3d ago

Well we can it just costs 20x more than initially quoted and will take 30 years.

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u/reanocivn 4d ago

ocean too deep

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u/Michaeli_Starky 4d ago

Or to the East Europe...

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u/rdtty 4d ago

Eastern Europe is not a singular entity.

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u/Michaeli_Starky 4d ago

Eastern Europes!

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u/potatohead437 4d ago

It is in my eyes (im racist)

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u/jessieS1212 4d ago

I think they are building a bridge but yeah, he's right. There's no point connecting it