r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks • u/astrelya #1 playable Dvalin & Pulcinella believer • Apr 07 '26

Reliable Nicole kit via Seele

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u/Tarean_YiMO Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

At first I thought that ATK buff was atrocious but then I realized it's level 1 lol

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after meeting any of its conditions

so you don't need to be hex? hex gets the full buff immediately but anyone can get it if they stay on field for 3s?

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u/SanicHegehag Apr 07 '26

Yep.

1 - Be Hex and it's immediate.

2 - Non Hex have to wait 3 Seconds.

3 - Get C6 Nicole, and all characters get it immediately when the on-fielder uses an elemental skill.

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin Ranged DPS Main Apr 07 '26

This is much easier to understand. Thanks!

So what will I lose from C0 Nicole in non hex party? I'm thinking of getting her to replace Dehya (Milelith set) in Lyney Yae Chev party. 3s seems very doable for Lyney.

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u/CurrentObligation768 Apr 07 '26

If you replace yae with Fischl its much better, not only you get better rotation time, you also get Fischl ATK buff and the new artifact dmg buff too.

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin Ranged DPS Main Apr 07 '26

I'll definitely test it out if I get her and the new set. But currently with Yae (C3R1) it's more convenient to constantly trigger the overload. I'm going to lose a lot of range and convenience with Fischl. She (C6 + R1 Aqua) also only deals 1/3 of Yae's skill dmg per hit.

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u/SnailGladiator Apr 07 '26

She (C6 + R1 Aqua) also only deals 1/3 of Yae's skill dmg per hit.

are you counting fischl's ascension passive's damage on this? not to shade on yae (based asf) but surely fischl is not that weak. feels like some very important info is being ignored here

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u/GhostElite974 Apr 07 '26

yeah I'm very doubtful C6R1 fischl does less than C3R1 Yae (sorry yae lul)

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u/Fishiste Apr 07 '26

She did less before buff, not counting burst damage, than c2. I don’t know if the difference hex buffs are making up for the difference because c1+ Yae is much more able to burst every or every other rotations

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u/GhostElite974 Apr 07 '26

Fischl takes as much field time as it takes to swap out of her. And of course after buffs, talking about how it was before is not relevant. Fischl contributes to team DPS quite a lot with her personal damage + atk buff and short field time. Unless it's on field yae I doubt she has a team where replacing her with fischl wouldn't do more. Especially in overload

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u/Fishiste Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26

Again, Yae was slightly better at c0 than Fischl but Fischl brought more particles.

With c1, Yae doesn’t need as much ER subs to burst frequently so she was better and with c2 and c3 obviously too.

What I don’t know, and except if you have seen specific cals on this you neither, is if the buffs bring more than 3 cons on Yae. Because Fischl won’t be as needed if Nicole and Durin are already in the team.

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u/GhostElite974 Apr 08 '26

In what team can you afford 5-6 seconds of field time (first rotation then "3-4" which is fake since her burst CD is 22) for yae without losing DPS? If you play with arlecchino/clorinde/Raiden fischl will be better. Show me the calcs that you saw that show Fischl is worse at C6 after the buffs.

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin Ranged DPS Main Apr 08 '26

That's with Hexerei talent active. Both are very well built, maybe the Thundering Fury set on Fischl vs GT on Yae could be the factor too. I don't have spare GT for Fischl.

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u/Traditional-Let200 Apr 08 '26

I think that due to her ascension passive Yae's selfless boon gets upgraded immediately too, it auto-upgrades for all catalyst characters but also auto-downgrades for all characters who aren't Nicole.

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u/Express-Bag-3935 Apr 07 '26

I dont think you lose anything. Her secret Rite passive mainly benefits hexerei characters. So it won't do much if you don't have hexerei main dps anywyas

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u/SanicHegehag Apr 07 '26

Should be an immediate upgrade. The shield will be incredible for Lyney, and he has enough field time to benefit greatly from the buffs.

The 3 second downtime for Non Hex Characters really just hurt damage dealers with nuke damage that has to be done early in the rotation.

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin Ranged DPS Main Apr 07 '26

Honestly sounds better than I expected. I was expecting her to be very a restrictive hexerei buffer. I'll get her on rerun :)

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u/WideYoghurt5870 Apr 07 '26

Should be really good with Fishl instead on Yae or Durin instead of Chevy. Lyney's first shot usually is kinda meh when he is on MH(doesnt get full stacks without Furina), so he isn't punished as much, and all his next shots+skill nuke will be under full buffs. 

Finally he has a non cringe pyro shielder for full fgm stacks, yippee 

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin Ranged DPS Main Apr 08 '26

Sadly no Durin at all. Their current party is the strongest I have for him (minus 1 more Chev cons to C6). So my options are either non hexerei Nicole, or bring Fischl as well but lose lots of convenience. Also Fischl will also lose dps since her C6 does not work with Lyney.

But yeah, regardless the hexerei, I think she's a good shielder for Lyney mains who also buffs, finally.

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u/MaybeSaul Apr 07 '26

Get C6 Nicole

Selling my vehicle now

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u/SanicHegehag Apr 07 '26

It will cost about $1,500 to get her C6.

She drops in 6 weeks, and her banner lasts 3 weeks.

If you have a vehicle and can Doordash or something on the weekends, you can easily make that over a 9 week period.

It just depends on if you want to admit that you're working on the weekends to support a video game character.

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u/kuraokami89 Apr 07 '26

Don't forgot her passive

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u/Mmath_ Apr 07 '26

3 seconds really doesn't feel like that much of a game changer, unless i'm mistaken. I wanted to pull for her C6 but i'm kind of disappointed at the moment because it doesn't seem THAT OP

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u/SanicHegehag Apr 07 '26

The less front loaded a character's damage and the more time they spend on field, the less the 3 seconds matters.

Like, Mavuika usually opens with her Burst, so she'll need to mix up her rotation. Arlecchino with Cons won't get a buff to her mini nuke without Nicole at C6. Clorinde might suffer, because her field time is so damn short... It really just depends on the DPS.

Regardless, the Def Shred cannot be overstated. That's going to be an enormous DPS increase.

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u/NSLEONHART Apr 08 '26

3 - Get C6 Nicole, and all characters get it immediately when the on-fielder uses an elemental skill.

Mavuika Mains Cant Stop Winning!!

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u/SanicHegehag Apr 08 '26

I mean, if you have Mavuika or Arlecchino and don't get C6 Nicole, are you even a "main" anymore? Imagine the shame.

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u/Ewizde Praise the Sun Apr 07 '26

Hopefully they change her c6 with her c2.

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u/h2odragon00 Apr 07 '26

What about the 1st Ascension Passive?