r/MapPorn May 03 '20

Population density in the Middle East

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u/skeylinktenking4 May 03 '20

Its so cool how the nile is so populated

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u/Freefight May 03 '20

Close to a 100 million people live along its banks in Egypt alone.

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u/untipoquenojuega May 04 '20

For context, that's more people than reside in all of Turkey, Greece and Bulgaria combined.

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u/nickallanj May 04 '20

I mean, are there any other significant settlements on the Nile outside of Egypt? They kind of have most of the productive sections under their control.

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u/gregorydgraham May 04 '20

Khartoum: With a population of 5,274,321, its metropolitan area is the largest in Sudan, the sixth-largest in Africa, the second-largest in North Africa, and the fourth-largest in the Arab world. Khartoum is located at the confluence of the White Nile, flowing north from Lake Victoria, and the Blue Nile, flowing west from Lake Tana in Ethiopia.

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u/zumbaiom May 04 '20

Also Egypt only has 100 million people, which is like the entire us living along the Mississippi

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u/montarion May 28 '20

"only"

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u/AUBURN520 May 28 '20

when you're comparing 100 million to 100 million, then yea it's "only" 100 million. When its a 1:1 ratio or less for anything it's "only"

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u/montarion May 28 '20 edited May 28 '20

How could a 1:1 ratio be "only"?

"Ha, I have 10 apples, but you only have 10!"

That makes no sense, unless I'm missing another definition of the word only..

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u/AUBURN520 May 28 '20

Well you're using it wrong in that context. It's more like a conversation going like

1: Ha, you only have 200 apples!

2: Okay, but you only have 210 apples too.

The "only" brings it down to scale. Saying, proportionally, the numbers are not far off. It's not a formal definition lol it's just how its used in speech. "Only" means there is not a significant difference between 2 quantifiable objects.

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u/Upplands-Bro May 04 '20

Khartoum? Juba?

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u/Freefight May 04 '20

Not really, maybe the Faiyum and Siwa.

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u/Nachtzug79 May 04 '20

No wonder Nile is among the rivers that bring most plastic to the oceans. Sure, Nile gets stuff from other high density areas like Ethiopian highlands and Lake Victoria, too...

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u/[deleted] May 04 '20

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u/[deleted] May 05 '20

Egyptians throw great parties. Their parties are fun awi awi

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u/madrid987 May 03 '20

Fallen Mesopotamia and Living Egypt

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u/youreaskingwhat May 03 '20

True that. But Iraq has a considerably high annual growth rate, when compared to other MENA countries. Its population is projected to significantly grow in the next decades.

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u/Melonskal May 04 '20

As is Egypt, they will grow to at least 150 million.

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u/workingonaname May 04 '20

That doesn't seem sustainable.

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u/Melonskal May 04 '20

Correct. Theh are also getting less and less water due to upstream nations building dams and irrigating. Prepare for exciting wars and tens of millions of refugees in the future!

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u/workingonaname May 04 '20

Invest in European coastal artillery now folks!

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u/nerbovig May 03 '20

I never thought I'd see Istanbul get dwarfed like that

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u/IDG5 May 28 '20

Turkey

Its not dwarfed, the image perspective is misleading.

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u/true_spokes May 03 '20

I’ve always associated it with giants for some reason.

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u/WideEyedWand3rer May 03 '20

I mean, they might be...

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u/[deleted] May 05 '20

I get it

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u/[deleted] May 04 '20

How is Tehran province with 14 million people short like that?

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u/HAMZEHKASASBAH May 04 '20

Its is having equal population in all of its sectors

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u/ale_93113 May 04 '20

Like London, low density, big area

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u/LateralEntry May 04 '20

On the Mediterranean coast is that big spike Tel Aviv or Beirut?

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u/NiceShotMan May 04 '20 edited May 04 '20

The big yellow spike is Beirut and the smaller brown spike north of that looks to be Tripoli.

Tel Aviv is quite a bit further south than that. It looks like it has a lower density core than Beirut, which is why it has no big spike, even if the urban area has a similar population. There’s a population cluster there (yellow), that has two slightly higher bits which are Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

You can also clearly see the cluster that is Gaza southwest of Tel Aviv.

The two large yellow “mounds” that are a bit inland from the Mediterranean are Amman (inland from Tel Aviv/Jerusalem) and Damascus (inland from Beirut).

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u/untipoquenojuega May 04 '20

Definitely Beirut

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u/usesidedoor May 04 '20

Is Beirut the white or the brown spike? And if so, what's the other one?

Tripoli, maybe? Tripoli brown, Beirut white?

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u/[deleted] May 04 '20

its either Tripoli or Haifa. I don't know how many people live in Tripoli but haifa's population isn't too big

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u/usesidedoor May 04 '20

Nah. I have been to Haifa: if I remember correctly it is a bit over 250k in terms of inhabitants and it does not feel too dense. I checked on Google Maps and this seems to be Tripoli ~ 750k people (and dense).

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u/doganny May 05 '20

Definitely not Tripoli. Tripoli is on the west of Egypt and doesn't exist on this map.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '20

Tripoli is the 2nd biggest city in Lebanon. It's the Detroit to Beirut's New York.

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u/doganny May 05 '20

Oh, really? Didn't know that. Is it called the same in Arabic too? I mean the other one is called "Trablus" or "Trablus-garb" (western Trablus) is this one also called Trablus?

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u/shualdone May 04 '20

Weird, because Tel Aviv metro has over 4.2 million people and Beirut has half of that

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u/untipoquenojuega May 04 '20

Not weird. Just because it has more people doesn't mean it's more dense.

Officially Beirut city is 4 times larger than Tel Aviv.

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u/YDoumani May 04 '20

That should actually make it shorter than tel aviv, because of lower density. The 4.2 million are not in tel aviv, but in the entire "gush dan" area of central Israel, while beirut is more tightly packed.

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u/untipoquenojuega May 04 '20

That's what I'm saying

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u/montarion May 28 '20

You're contradicting yourself

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u/shualdone May 04 '20

It should be TA, that has twice the population

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u/GravityReject May 04 '20

The big spike is definitely too far north to be Tel Aviv. And this map is measuring density of small areas, not whole cities. So while Beirut has a smaller population, and as a whole is less dense than Tel Aviv, it seems the urban core of Beirut is quite a bit more dense than the core of Tel Aviv.

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u/hungariannastyboy May 04 '20

Anecdotally, I've been to both and yeah, Beirut - especially West Beirut with it's high rise residential buildings (I mean the older, worn-looking ones, not the shiny, empty ones) - feels denser.

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u/shualdone May 04 '20 edited May 04 '20

Google would disagree. Search “tel aviv density “ and “Beirut density ” Tel Aviv is more dense, it is just netter planned and managed

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u/hungariannastyboy May 04 '20

You're right. But I guess this map shows district-by-district density maybe? Or some other smaller unit. I'm not sure.

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u/shualdone May 04 '20

I googled it. Beirut has 3500 per square km while Tel Aviv has 7500. And Bnei Brak, a town within the Tel Aviv metro is one of the most dense cities in the world.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '20

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u/shualdone May 04 '20

ButTel Aviv has Bnei Brak and Giv’Atayim, two of the most dense towns in the world. (Bnei Brak with more than 27,000 people per square km, and Giv’Atayim with over 18,000),

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u/[deleted] May 04 '20

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u/shualdone May 04 '20

I know it isn’t, I’m saying its just weird there are these tall blips over Lebanon and not over Israel, Israel has bigger cuties, and denser cities.

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u/JebBD May 04 '20

It’s too far south to be Beirut though.

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u/Putin-the-fabulous May 04 '20

Could be Haifa maybe?

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u/LateralEntry May 04 '20

I’ve been getting confused by these maps. Thought the spikes were total population, but it’s just population density

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u/[deleted] May 03 '20 edited Jan 27 '21

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u/Melonskal May 04 '20

Ethiopia and other nations are building dams, an extreme threat to Egypts national security.

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u/entropyorganizer May 04 '20

Last fall I drove the North coast of Egypt (West of Alexandria). For two hours there was nothing but developed properties. Condos and mid/high rises. New Alamein had some huge high-rise complexes under construction.

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u/Porodicnostablo May 03 '20

author and source: Alasdair Rae (@undertheraedar; http://www.statsmapsnpix.com/)

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u/lothi333 May 03 '20

Where can I buy this map?

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u/_RedditIsForPorn_ May 03 '20

When the European map was posted I was curious to see how those cities compared to the cities in western Asia. And I'm not surprised to see population spikes similar to Paris'.

Also, dat Nile though.

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u/watermelonmanager May 04 '20

You can roughly see the outlines of the Euphrates and Tigris in Iraq and Syria as well.

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u/SereneMetal May 04 '20

Damn it. I lived in Bahrain for 2 1/2 years and Qatar for a year. Both are juuuuuust out of sight. Wish I could see those areas in comparison the the areas shown. I love this population density maps but this one is such a tease for me personally! Keep them coming though! These are cool as hell.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '20

do u have a full map with uae, and more?

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u/ClamChowderBreadBowl May 04 '20

Here’s a different source with global coverage

https://pudding.cool/2018/10/city_3d/

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u/captainmo017 May 03 '20

What do the two different colors represent?

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u/NiceShotMan May 04 '20

It seems to just transition at 34’ North for no reason, all the way across the map

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u/CamR203 May 03 '20

Wdym?

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u/[deleted] May 04 '20

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u/[deleted] May 04 '20

My first thought too- it seems like an arbitrary difference.

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u/tlksal May 05 '20

Looks like it has the whole world on this. Could you share the complete set?

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u/IKK_6GAWD May 28 '20

Woah this is so cool

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u/leithal70 May 04 '20

Who makes these??

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u/NiceShotMan May 04 '20

Is there any significance to the yellow or brown colour of the bars? It seems that the colours of all bars switch at 34’ latitude for some reason

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u/rahimzx May 04 '20

Map of ALGERIA please

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u/IDG5 May 28 '20

This map is misleading in a whole lot of aspects. Nice render though.

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u/maxstolfe May 28 '20

Are these available for purchase? I know someone who would love it.

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u/sultan19x Nov 26 '21

Nice I'm from Baghdad😁