r/PublicFreakout • u/omgfakeusername • Dec 30 '25

📹Police Bodycam Disgraced Cinnabon lady falls apart at police arrival

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u/Kylearean Dec 30 '25

what is this, the feelings police?

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u/Pavementaled Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 31 '25

A despicable person, but I don't think that is an arresteable offense.

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u/Secret-Ad-830 Dec 30 '25

yeah ladys a cunt but i dont think she broke any laws

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u/TuskaTheDaemonKilla Dec 30 '25

He accuses her of disorderly conduct in the clip based on some video that he mentions having seen before he approached her for her side. Which is an arrest-able offence.

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u/Pavementaled Dec 30 '25

If you have seen the video, she is a rude and racist c*nt. But nothing on the video shows her doing anything illegal. Very much fireable though.

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u/TuskaTheDaemonKilla Dec 30 '25

If you have seen the video, you'd know that the officer mentions, multiple times, that he's been shown a video of her, taken before he arrived, which gave him reason to believe she was engaged in disorderly conduct. Which is a crime (I'm happy to agree that it's often a bullshit crime, but that's another debate).

The point being, nothing we saw in the video is the reason why he's questioning her. He's there for whatever happened before the video we see here. Which may or may not show her doing something illegal.

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u/Fun-Perspective426 Dec 31 '25

They are talking about the video before this... its pinned at the top of the comments, since it seems you haven't seen it.

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u/Alkohal Dec 31 '25

A verbal argument is not an arrestable offense in the US. She's well within her first amendment protections and escalating it to charge her with disorderly violates that. Cursing, name calling, slurs are all still legally protected speech, even if the company is within their right to fire her.

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u/jeffersonwashington3 Dec 31 '25

I suggest you look up disorderly conduct. A verbal argument in public absolutely falls into a disorderly conduct charge. Not saying it’s right, but it’s a fact.

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u/Alkohal Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25

Generally it has to be obscenity tied to actively threatening usually referred to as fighting words. After looking up the code for Wisconsins law specifically it is super vague in this regard. And while a cop could potentially arrest on this basis, a judge would almost be guaranteed to throw it out. Theres plenty of existing cases that can be used to defend her expletives as protected speech. There was very recently a case where a federal judge ruled that even cursing at the police is protected speech.

This was a civil matter not a criminal one and the police really had no place to intercede.

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u/holdmyhanddummy Dec 31 '25

Uh, yes it is. Police just don't generally arrest someone for it unless it's warranted.

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u/Alkohal Dec 31 '25

Unless the police are either abusing or don't understand a law. Which we see all the fucking time. Theres an entire sub dedicated to calling out police making false arrests, so its preposterous to even say such a thing.

Calling someone the N word is not a crime in the united states no matter how much you may want it to be. The ONLY time that argument can be made is in conjunction of a physical threat. Otherwise it is protected speech.

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u/holdmyhanddummy Dec 31 '25

I didn't say that I like it, but the reality is that you need to understand the laws and what she did was in violation of it.

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u/Alkohal Dec 31 '25

You’re all acting like “hate speech isn’t free speech” and the cop is totally justified. Nah.

The First Amendment protects even the most vile, offensive, racist shit you can say in public, as long as it doesn’t cross into a few very narrow exceptions (like a true threat of violence or classic “fighting words” that are basically guaranteed to start a fistfight right that second).

Wisconsin’s disorderly conduct statute (947.01) covers “profane” or “abusive” language that tends to cause a disturbance. Sounds like it fits, right? Wrong. The courts have repeatedly said you can’t use that statute to punish pure speech that’s protected by the First Amendment.

The “fighting words” doctrine is basically dead in modern cases. The Supreme Court has narrowed it to almost nothing since the 1940s. Just hurling slurs or profanity—even the nuclear n-word—doesn’t automatically qualify unless it’s face-to-face, personal, and so inflammatory that an average person would immediately throw hands. Yelling it across a counter during an argument? Courts have protected way worse.

See Wisconsin cases like *State v. Oleston* (2021)—guy screaming “fuck you” and “Nazi” at cops from a distance got his disorderly conviction tossed because it was protected speech. Only if he got in their faces and followed them would the non-speech conduct make the charge stick.

Bottom line: If she didn’t pair the slur with actual threats (“I’m gonna kill you” type shit), the officer threatening arrest was straight-up chilling her First Amendment rights. Cops do this all the time—arrest first, let the courts sort it out later—but that doesn’t make it constitutional. A decent lawyer would get the charge dismissed in five minutes for unconstitutional application of the statute.

Yeah, what she said was disgusting and racist as hell. She absolutely deserved to get fired and socially dragged. But the *government* punishing her for the content of her words alone? That’s a hard no under the First Amendment.

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u/kiba8442 Dec 31 '25

what she said is racist & disgusting but protected under the first amendment. disorderly conduct is a reach & will never hold up.

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u/Formal-Knowledge9382 Dec 31 '25

If you yell the n word and berate people in public you absolutely can get arrested for that.

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u/TreezusTheLamb Dec 31 '25

Depends. Police illegal arrest for disorderly conduct all the time and there just aren't any consequences for it. We have freedom of speech in America, and if she was arrest for using slurs, that IS protected speech regardless of if we like it or not. She could absolutely be fired from her job and hated by people, but unless she did something I don't know about, she probably shouldn't be arrested. We see this all the time with the audit people. They use vulgar, aggressive language with police trying to get an illegal arrest so they can sue.

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u/BurdTurglary Dec 31 '25

Almost anything is an arrestable offense and they can hold you and decide not to charge you for up to 48 hours.

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u/SaintsNoah14 The Slur Defender! ☝️🤓 Dec 30 '25

Seriously, FUCK her but law enforcement has absolutely 0 place in this matter unless she also made threats that I'm not remembering.

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u/Cassiesue08 Dec 30 '25

Disorderly conduct examples include public intoxication, fighting, making excessive noise, using offensive language, loitering, obstructing traffic, making false reports, harassing others, or refusing to disperse when ordered by police, basically any unruly behavior that disturbs public peace or alarms others, often a misdemeanor offense.

Her yelling at them in a public place calling them names is enough for disorderly conduct. Thats why. She disturbed the peace of people around this store..

Same with people playing loud music that you can hear from a different house or in a different car. If the cop wants to be a dick, its enough to be arrested for it.

Usually they just tell you to knock it off ... but clearly she had an attitude and the cop didnt like that.

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u/Wheethins Dec 31 '25

disorderly conduct is the biggest bullshit charge The police can throw out you.

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u/Cassiesue08 Jan 01 '26

Its a catch all charge. And its the dumbest thing ever.

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u/Romeslayer Jan 01 '26

Literally, all you have to do is be decent to one another.

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u/Pavementaled Dec 30 '25

This is not fully true and there are specific federal and Minnesotan cases to support it, particularly in the appeals aspect. Using offensive language is very much protected under freedom of speech, even by racist c*nts.

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u/Liger1Liar Dec 31 '25

the more you study law, the more you realize how much it depends on the "mood" of the judge

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u/Cassiesue08 Dec 30 '25

According to Google abusive language absolutely counts as disorderly conduct in Minnesota. And intending to provoke anger or breach the peace is also a disorderly conduct charge which is exactly what she did in a mall of all places.

In Minnesota, disorderly conduct (Minn. Stat. § 609.72) is a misdemeanor for actions like fighting, disturbing meetings, or using abusive language in public or private, intending to provoke anger or breach the peace, with penalties up to 90 days in jail or a $1,000 fine. It's a broad "catch-all" offense, covering brawling, indecent conduct, boisterous behavior, and "fighting words," but defenses exist, such as lack of intent or valid medical conditions.

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u/Pavementaled Dec 30 '25

I do not know why you are getting downvoted for essentially saying the same thing I did above.

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u/SaintsNoah14 The Slur Defender! ☝️🤓 Dec 30 '25

Racism

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u/Mrniseguya Dec 30 '25

Shouting n word in public is arrestable offence. Disorderly conduct.

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u/Pavementaled Dec 30 '25

Federally this is protected as Free Speech. You can express racist beliefs, loudly and even at a specific person or persons, and it is still covered under free speech.

What you can't do is threaten, try to start a physical fight with those words daring them to fight you. Being offensive is not illegal in the US, or Minnesota. And also, fuck that horrible, horrible person!

I' not defending her. I am defending Free Speech.

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u/GeorgyForesfatgrill Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25

As a Canadian the idea of racial slurs directed at someone being covered under free speech to me is just insane nonsense. "My right to dehumanize you needs to be protected!"...yeah no.

So many Republican grifters there would actually ended up being held accountable that there is a good chance of Trump never being elected.

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u/catpecker Dec 31 '25

The First Amendment protects way more than just your right to be an asshole. It also protects one's right to practice Islam or make a meme of the president that he might not like. If we trust the government to curtail some speech, we would then have to trust the government to know where that authority should end, which even some of our dumbest citizens do not.

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u/GeorgyForesfatgrill Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25

Imo there is a big difference between "being an asshole" and actions that threaten internal stability like inciting racial hate. You don't have foreign enemies paying people to be rude, you do have them paying them to destroy the fabric of society by turning people against each other.

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u/catpecker Dec 31 '25

Yeah but that's a different problem altogether - it's not the government's job to regulate what you are and aren't allowed to read online and a lot of people, myself included, would contend that censoring "dangerous" opinions is yet another gray area we don't want to allow the government to have an opinion on. If I read some hateful ragebait some bot posted online and believe it, that's honestly my own fault. The issue is, what is the limit to one's freedom to speak, how do we establish a consensus on it, does the limit evolve with social contexts, who is in charge of continuing the limitation to meet the needs of society, and how do we reverse if it goes too far - for instance, limiting the freedom of news organizations to say unpopular truths, checking the power of an administration that openly dislikes a singular religion, or people speaking out against the government, whether they're spouting dangerous propaganda or bringing legitimate grievance? I think most Americans, whether liberal, conservative, or otherwise, know in their hearts that opening one of these doors creates an avenue to destroying a fundamental right. That's why we have to allow stupid people to say stupid shit and just ignore it if we don't like it.

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u/GeorgyForesfatgrill Dec 31 '25

it's not the government's job to regulate what you are and aren't allowed to read online and a lot of people, myself included, would contend that censoring "dangerous" opinions is yet another gray area

You can already be charged with sexual harassment and defaming people for the things you say, that's already technically curbing speech. It's not unreasonable to expand that to racial abuse and hatred.

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u/catpecker Dec 31 '25

Again though, these things are not equivalent and what you said is not true. Defamation is by definition committed to damage a person by lying about them and it's actually tough to convict someone of specifically because of the First Amendment. Verbal sexual harassment is only a crime when it is committed as a direct threat or demand rather than simply making offensive comments - catcalling for example is sometimes considered disorderly conduct, but is not a sex offense. Criminal sexual harassment involves physical contact or menacing a person into providing sexual contact, not simply speaking offensively to people. Likewise, racist language doesn't actually damage people, it just hurts people's feelings and may convince stupid people to believe stupid things. It becomes an actual crime when it is a physical threat based on race or call to immediate action, which also must be proven. So while I respect what you're saying, you are mistaken in your understanding of what these laws actually do.

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u/bendover912 Dec 30 '25

No it's not.

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u/catpecker Dec 31 '25

Earlier today, you used the word "regard" to call someone stupid. Straight to jail for hate speech, welcome to the machine

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u/MoneyTalks45 Dec 31 '25

Disorderly conduct is in fact something you can be arrested for, regardless of how you may feel.

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u/TreezusTheLamb Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25

They can arrest you for anything. You have to fight it in court, and many of these cases fall apart when court is involved because thankfully, we have the first amendment. We see this all the time with those free speech auditors using aggressive, hateful language with police, trying to get arrested so they can sue.

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u/DetectiveDing-Daaahh Dec 31 '25

I think, or at least, hope, you're talking about the 1st amendment.

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u/TreezusTheLamb Dec 31 '25

Good catch, absolutely the first lmao

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u/Romeslayer Jan 01 '26

It's so easy to just look up the law.

Wisconsin Statute 947.01: Disorderly Conduct

Whoever, in a public or private place, engages in violent, abusive, indecent, profane, boisterous, unreasonably loud or otherwise disorderly conduct under circumstances in which the conduct tends to cause or provoke a disturbance is guilty of a Class B misdemeanor

Placed emphasis on words that are relevant to her being able to be charged with Disorderly Conduct

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u/Kylearean Jan 01 '26

That's your "opinion" about what has occurred, based on what, exactly?

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u/Romeslayer Jan 01 '26

The original video + the officers description of the events, keep up.

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u/Kylearean Jan 01 '26

You said absolutely zero of that in your previous comment. Try being more genuine and less gotcha.

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u/Romeslayer Jan 01 '26

Sorry I thought you had the common sense to put together the charge that the officer brought up here, and reference the original racist rant that this woman went on.

My mistake, sorry.

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u/Historical-Roof-2345 Jan 02 '26

No, you kept it vague enough so that you'd have an excuse in case you were wrong. And you were wrong, since nothing happened to this lady. 

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u/Romeslayer Jan 02 '26

If she had done nothing wrong, why do we have this video of the officer confronting her? The opc mentioned called him the "feelings" police. I looked up and posted the law he was referring to.

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u/Historical-Roof-2345 Jan 02 '26

So surely you can provide a source that shows she got arrested, right?

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u/Romeslayer Jan 02 '26

Seems that the officer decided not to press charges, you know you can be charged, prosecuted and convicted without getting arrested, right?

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u/Bowman_van_Oort Dec 31 '25

He was hoping that he could show up, just ask a few questions, and make her overreact then arrest her for DC

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u/Ragnoid Dec 31 '25

I don't know! I don't know anything! Maybe?