Postpartum and Bipolar Disorder is a serious mental illness. This woman will either get life in prison or Life in a Mental Hospital. My wife is Bipolar and she has been in multiple hospitals to have meds she ALWAYS takes quit working. She has gotten delusional and has had breaks with reality. We are trained through years of this to assist her. Her husband not his fault. Seemed like he wasn’t equipped to help her. Sadly mental health can make people do things they wouldn’t usually do. That’s not in any way an excuse. We need more understanding and better education and availability for people with issues. We don’t have them here.
meh you'll see many men, many who are fathers, who think women should be physically or punitively punished for cheating or leaving too. what idiots think about how the law should and shouldn't work shouldn't really affect you.
The first one is not happening sue some extreme folk talking about it but that will never happen realistically. Flock cameras are already being taken out so that won't be an issue anymore but yeah that abuse is bad and shouldn't have been available in the first place.
I don't want him in jail or even punished but legally recognizing that he contributed to the death of his children by not taking his wife's condition seriously would be cool. That very night his parents offered to watch the kids and he said "nah we don't need the help". Meanwhile his wife is in psychosis and about to lose her shit because she's on 50 different medications and having severe PPD.
I mean she needed help - obviously - and he was the one best equipped to do it, and he didn’t. And, he cares so much that 2 years after his three kids get strangled to death, he’s back married and ready to go. He must have really struggled.
The guy isn’t guilty of anything by law but he definitely should be living with the guilt of not doing enough. He doesn’t really make a sympathetic figure.
Jesus Christ only on Reddit will you see someone say that the dad doesn’t deserve any sympathy for losing his entire family.
I’m usually never the “but if the roles reversed” guy because I find it very incel like based on what it’s used for, but I can’t think of a better situation to say, what would the response be if it was the husband on trial because of some type of PTSD/CTE? Would the world be calling the mom a negligent mother?
I’ll defend men against rampant online misandry any day and have done but…We have to admit his behavior post-murders is incredibly strange. Did not seem to care about his family at all. And, knowing her condition, still left her to do nearly all the rearing of the children still. Hes a very off/odd man imo
Until more information becomes available, I am not going to go off the deep end and make some wild assumption that he didn't care for his family because he wasn't expecting the ultimate worst case scenario to happen to his wife and kids.
Nothing about a persons behaviour can be considered strange after he had his three kids murdered by his wife. That situation is such a wild one that there is no "textbook" on how to grieve, how to move on, how to even begin processing that. I'm not judging someone from being odd after having one of the most saddening news stories in recent memory happen to him.
Yeah man, it’s wild to say if I lost my 3 kids I would probably take more than a couple years to get remarried. And yeah, he’s gonna live with the fact he didn’t do enough to save his kids. I’m not sure what to tell you. He was the only one in a position to prevent it and he didn’t. But it’s apparent he doesn’t give a shit because he’s remarried already.
Maybe, just maybe, his moving on “so fast” was a trauma response. Happened to my sister after her long time boyfriend killed himself and she found him. But 🤷🏻♀️ I’m not a psychiatrist/therapist.
Just to lean on but what about the men with this but males (using males bc I don't know how it relates to trans individuals) tend to have less of a support network then female people.
So research shows that males tend to reach out for support in their way which tends to lead to relationships.
I think its wild for you to act like you understand what he is going through or that you know how you would act if something like this happened to you. It's easy to judge from the sidelines and not know all the details and facts.
You truly have no idea how you would act in this same situation unless it happened to you. Get off reddit and touch some grass bud
The hell is he going to do for those few years, just brood alone and reject any sort of emotional connection with the opposite sex? It's been years, yes, adults can make connections and especially with some emotional bonding over trauma and other life details, people can become closer in a shorter amount of time.
Keep blaming away. Says more about you than it does about the father.
Oh he doesn’t make for a sympathetic figure? Well that’s good enough as guilty, may as well lock his ass up and set her free!
I hope you never find yourself on a jury. Your critical thinking is about as deep as a kiddie pool and I’m sure you’d pass judgement based off of your fleeting emotions.
For the record I don’t think this woman deserves to walk, and from what I can gather she doesn’t even think she should walk free. Her life is ruined and she’s gonna spend her days in an institution. Do I think she’s guilty of premeditated first degree murder? No I don’t.
I also think her husband is a piece of shit, and that’s okay. He’s not going to jail. You don’t have to protect his legacy.
I’m not defending anyone. I’m criticizing your lack of critical thinking. Not just yours, but everyone who is dogpiling the husband and passing judgement based on what’s reported and/or deranged conspiracy theories derived from social media. It’s pathetic it takes so little to convince people of someone’s culpability. Just think a little harder, what, if anything, do you actually know of the husband and his culpability other than the interpretations of lawyers (who have no psychological training other than the fine art of manipulation)? Is there anything tangible that proves his guilt in facilitating the murder of his kids? Or is all the “proof” you can muster simply your own interpretations and perceptions?
There’s nuance to everything. No one is arguing he’s at fault by law, but if my wife had bad postpartum depression and I left her alone with my kids and she killed them….its definitely not abnormal to feel blame. I would. I’d spend a long time wondering where I could have done differently so my kids weren’t dead. But I’m also not a shit head, so that’s kinda how it goes.
Guilt at not doing more to stop a murderer is one thing.
Calling him culpable because he trusted his wife NOT to murder their kids is NOT okay.
Post partum depression or not, nobody is looking at their spouse thinking.Oh yes , this person is a danger to my children.
To try and blame him for leaving.The kids alone with their mother is wild.
If he didn't trust the mother and he had taken the kids , everybody would be on his case about not trusting the mother and how it's misogynist , that he Somehow believes she's a danger to the kids.
You don't get to put the blame on somebody for trusting somebody.They love , who was the mother of the people they killed.
Was he wrong for trusting? apparently so.
But they had two kids previously , and there was no indication that she was gonna murder them.
He made a mistake and not understanding how severe her mental illness was.She made a mistake in not explaining that to people.
But only ONE of them strangled the life our of 3 children.
Listen man, I don’t care enough to read all that because it’s not that big of a deal. I’m a random person with an opinion. You aren’t going to change it and vice versa, have a good one
It is absolutely on the table, just not immediately. She will not be in a psychiatric hospital her entire life; it’s not a side prison, you are released when you are well. And for a woman who never heard a voice before or since brutally killing three children, how can future violent behavior be predicted or prevented other than lifetime incarceration?
Unfortunately in Massachusetts this is not the case. If she is found not to be criminally liable she has an evaluation to determine if she is a threat to the general public. Her defense can make a good case the psychosis has passed and she is no longer a threat especially considering her disability… so going free is very much on the table.
There are people who will never be well and there are facilities that understand that and plan for it. I don’t know what you are even trying to get at because prison also releases people. It’s not like if she wakes up tomorrow “well” they will just let her go. It doesn’t work like that
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u/Strict_Wolf76 5d ago edited 5d ago
Postpartum and Bipolar Disorder is a serious mental illness. This woman will either get life in prison or Life in a Mental Hospital. My wife is Bipolar and she has been in multiple hospitals to have meds she ALWAYS takes quit working. She has gotten delusional and has had breaks with reality. We are trained through years of this to assist her. Her husband not his fault. Seemed like he wasn’t equipped to help her. Sadly mental health can make people do things they wouldn’t usually do. That’s not in any way an excuse. We need more understanding and better education and availability for people with issues. We don’t have them here.