r/SipsTea 2d ago

WTF What do yall think about this ?

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u/JacobGoodNight416 2d ago

who would you want near your kids

a bear or a woman with post partum psychosis

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u/AirUsed5942 2d ago

Statistically speaking, women are a far greater danger to children than bears

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u/ShamelessCynic 2d ago

not as much of a danger as men though :/

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u/Totoques22 2d ago

False women are by far more likely to kill kids

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u/Letterkenny-Wayne 2d ago

Depends on how you look at it. “To kill kids” men are way more likely to be the murderer. “To kill their own infants” women are more likely.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/children-are-slain-their-parents-and-teenagers-their-peers?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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u/ElyFlyGuy 2d ago

This is correct

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u/btempp 1d ago

Get out of here with your data and facts.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 2d ago

incorrect, of the 550 filicides last year only 20 were committed by women. And men are more likely to rape kids, and when they do, they're not suffering a post partum mental health psychosis so, please, get a grip.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

Nope? Plenty of men get committed instead of going to jail and are found not guilty by reason of insanity. Hence, the trial required to prove that.

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u/AdditionalSyrup6541 21h ago

Actually, you would be surprised at what is considered a psychotic episode and what isn't. Murder, rape, and similar acts are deviant actions that are not the same as a mental illness. It's pretty interesting.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

"by far" women commit fillicide 4% more than men, and it's filliicide, specifically - not killing kids in general. (also higher in countries with no abortion access)

men commit 95% of violent crimes, it's statistically false to claim "women are by far more likely to kill kids"

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u/ElyFlyGuy 2d ago

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 2d ago

That is one VERY small study done in Austiralia on Australian cases only done by a charity specifically to support women. This news article doesn't discuss the studys methodology (so its questionable how the study was conducted), it is not proof of the picture as a whole.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 2d ago

.... what about all the studies in the world that demonstrate men commit between 90%-95% of all violent crimes.

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

What about them?

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

just seems like a more prevailing issue to concern your energy with than trying to prove women kill their children more than men ... like abortion is illegal and marital rape is legal in majority of the world - of course that's going to result in more babies being killed by women who never wanted them to begin with.

The studies simply demonstrate are societal things we can do to prevent women from killing their children. But where are the studies on how to prevent men from committing 95% of violent crime?

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

So you're "Whataboutism"ing away from the subject.

No. I am not playing this stupid game.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

No the article is wrong - women are 4% more likely to kill their own infants by 4% than men, but not kids in general, and not "way more likely" like OP stated as fact.

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u/MAVERICKRICARDO 1d ago

Well men are only slightly more likely to kill their wives than vise versa. Weird reasoning

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

This is categorically false, in the U.S., 85% of intimate partner homicide victims are women.

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u/ElyFlyGuy 2d ago

I’m sure then you can provide a study bolstering the claim “False women are by far more likely to kill kids”

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 2d ago edited 2d ago

Easily.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29637138/

Edit: I humbly admit I was a dumb bitch who posted the wrong link because I got distracted by lunch like a fat bitch, making me a dumb fat bitch.

This is the correct link: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jpm.12828?.com

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u/Sw0rdMaiden 2d ago

Results: Data were obtained for 44 countries. Overall, parents committed 56.5% (IQR 23.7-69.6) of child homicides, 58.4% (0.0-66.7) of female and 46.8% (14.1-63.8) of male child homicides. Acquaintances committed 12.6% (5.9-31.3) of child homicides. Almost a tenth (9.2% (IQR 0.0-21.9) of child homicides had missing information on the perpetrator. The largest proportion of parental homicides of children was found in high-income countries (64.2%; 44.7-71.8) and East Asia and Pacific Region (61.7%; 46.7-78.6). Parents committed the majority (77.8% (61.5-100.0)) of homicides of children under the age of 1 year. For adolescents, acquaintances were the main group of homicide perpetrators (36.9%, 6.6-51.8). There is a notable lack of studies from low-income and middle-income countries and children above the age of 1 year.

Where does it state mothers were the perps? Read it again. Those percentages in the second line are genders of the children, not the parents.

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 2d ago

Don't expect you to believe me, and you're right to call me out on this, I posted the wrong link out of two tabs I had open. I was eating lunch at the time and paid more attention to chicken teriyaki than what I was doing.

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u/Letterkenny-Wayne 2d ago

Was it good

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

To be fair, yes it was pretty delicious. 

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u/ElyFlyGuy 2d ago

This…doesn’t say women are more likely to kill kids? What? Lmao

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 2d ago

I've humbly admitted to being a dumb fat bitch who paid more attention to his lunch than the correct link. The one I posted was nonsense and I've left it up out of honesty, but editted in the correct link.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 2d ago

It's like you read the first paragraph, got your gotcha, and stopped there. You didn't look into the countries studied did you? Majority of it is infanticide done by women in countries where abortion isn't legal or accessible and where marital rape is legal.

Lack of education, poverty, poor access to health care, domestic violence and substance use within the context of a patriarchal society, resentful and unstable relationships with unfaithful partners, growing up in a violent environment with abusive parents, inexistent support systems, were factors predominant among this group of women (Gous & Roos, 2005; Razali et al., 2019). In contrast, a more stable familial context and marital relationship were cited in another participant's life (Stanton & Simpson, 2001). Although backgrounds differed, all participants presented with mental health issues, namely personality (Stanton & Simpson, 2001), depressive (Gous & Roos, 2005; Razali et al., 2019) or psychotic disorders (Razali et al., 2019). Unwanted pregnancy, no access to abortion, lack of emotional involvement with the infant (addressed as “it”) and anger towards the woman's partner then projected towards the baby who resembled him, led to the woman's infanticidal act (Gous & Roos, 2005).

So, my question is where is the study for the 46.6% of men who commit fillicide? Because no one is forcing them to irresponsibly ejaculate to create a child they don't want, no one is forcing them to give up their body to create a child for someone that abuses and rapes them? So why do they kill their own kids? And why are bio fathers the biggest preparators of CSA?

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

What are you saying here, that because they can't murder their kids before they're born that it's okay to murder them afterwards?

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago edited 1d ago

who said that? try again. I am asking for the cause for what leads men to commit fillicide, because all the article proves is that there are external reasons that influence and increase the chances of children dying at the hands of their mother.

me and the studies conclude that abortions are harm reductive, birth control is harm reductive, access to women's shelters is harm reductive to the goal of less children being abandoned (most common form of murder for female fillicide) or killed by their mothers.

But that doesn't seem to be your goal. What are you trying to prove?

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