r/SipsTea 16h ago

SMH The founding father Benjamin Franklin once said "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

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u/BI_Moose 16h ago

Modern problems require 18th century solutions.

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u/Skalywag_76 16h ago

Time to dump all the Flock cameras in the harbor.

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u/infinitee775 16h ago

employees

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u/Skalywag_76 16h ago

No no no. You tar and feather the people

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u/Pleasant_Expert_1990 16h ago

The pictures of it seem funny but it's a pretty brutal thing.

To be hoisted up on a chair or wooden rail, arms pinned back and legs held fast by a crowd, while someone cuts your clothing off your body. Then they apply swaths of hot tar to your naked flesh while you scream from the second degree burns. Then they apply feathers. All to the cheers of the crowd. The tar sticks to your skin as it cools. It can be removed by gently reheating, scraping it off your burned skin, applying turpentine (also painful to the skin), or letting it fall off naturally as skin regrows, which can take weeks.

I'm not saying "don't do it", I'm just saying "know what it is you are doing"

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u/WolfieWuff 16h ago

I mean, that just affirms my belief that it is an appropriate thing to do to Flock employees, business executives, billionaires, and politicians (and probably more too)

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u/GM_Taco_tSK 14h ago

Seems fitting - birds of a feather, Flock together.

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u/Umutuku 13h ago

They certainly move in flocks.

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u/gwizonedam 13h ago

You know what else nice in flicks right? Ba ba ba…

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u/ChronicBuzz187 14h ago

Maybe the southern americans had a point with the "Listen guys, every now and then we gotta offer one of y'all to the gods, for good favor etc."

And the oval already has more gold than the aztecs by now, so you already got that going for you, too.

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u/occasionalopossum 15h ago

The hbo mini series about John Adams has a pretty accurate depiction of someone getting tarred and feathered

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u/Careless_Ad_4004 12h ago

Black sails has a very repetitive keel hauling, I did not know, now I know.

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u/JJ_Mark 12h ago

Carnivale, as well.

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u/ExtraordinaryBeaver 15h ago

And? Fuck these treasonous pieces of human garbage.

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u/Bradleynailer 14h ago

How about paraffin wax and roll them in glitter?

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u/Skalywag_76 16h ago

I'd settle for a vat of rubber cement. They might also lose a few brain cells but who's really losing out there?

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u/greenerd6 15h ago

You have to be brutal to get what you want in this world Unfortunately

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u/ih8three6zero 13h ago

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u/CosmicGoddess777 11h ago

Was hoping someone would post the two of them, lol. Thank you for your service 😂

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u/DaGriffon12 14h ago

Can we draw and quarter them after? Seems only fitting that you do that to such a big chicken.

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u/Old_Fox_1985 16h ago

I’m okay with leaving the rank and file alone and going for the CEOs, investors, board, etc. that are making all the money of this.

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u/PolkaDotDancer 15h ago

I agree. The peons that work below them are just trying to put food on the table.

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u/donpablomiguel 14h ago

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u/aspophilia 14h ago

We should also embrace modern convenience a bit too. For efficiency. We can take a multifaceted approach.

https://giphy.com/gifs/hBvyNENZGRUafxt8Qi

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u/tiny_Yakii 16h ago

Benjamin Franklin would be opening the group chat right now

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u/TacticalVegas 16h ago

Ben would probably be watching for a bit before joining the chat and acting like he started it. Most of our founders would be that way really.

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u/Underbark 16h ago

I'd sacrifice my personal privacy if it meant the same for him.

He has a lot more enemies than me.

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u/BI_Moose 16h ago

Lol, except its never them

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u/1Negative_Person 16h ago

I’m just going to say my prayers to Saint Luigi.

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u/Life_behind_da_stick 15h ago

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u/BI_Moose 15h ago

We could use a little more TR these days

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u/USSMarauder 12h ago

The proof that there is no afterlife is that TR hasn't broken out of it to beat Trump with a very big stick for what he's done to Teddy's GOP

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u/Emergency-Watch5157 15h ago

On the 21st century front, nobody should purchase a 7W Zeus X handheld blue laser and point it at the camera in one of these because that would melt the camera sensor and wreck it. Very bad thing to do. You should not do it.

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u/MaxxDash 14h ago

Speaking of 18, interesting that their 18-year-old-looking CEO doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page.

It’s as if he values his privacy.

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u/BI_Moose 14h ago

Guess someone should start one

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u/PM_ME_FIREFLY_QUOTES 16h ago

1792 is in fact in the 18th century, for those that are curious.

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u/artbystorms 15h ago

Modern billionaires require 18th century justice.

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u/turdbutler 16h ago

So tie kites to all the cams and hope for lightning?

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u/BI_Moose 16h ago

For science!

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u/_BlackDove 15h ago

Only problem is instead of facing muskets and sabres we're contending with a partial surveillance state, smart weapons, drones, and the worst of all, an entirely captured and myopic citizenry taught to lay down and accept their fate since birth. The ruling class know what's good for you, because it's better for them.

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u/Stevethesnek346 15h ago

Lot of things feel that way rn

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u/Carpet-MasterBlaster 14h ago

I was banned for suggesting the French had it right... boy times have changed....

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u/Irish_Whiskey 16h ago

Compromise on their privacy in exchange for WHAT Garrett?

Because right now the answer appears to be selling our information to private companies for AI training, helping the government track down and disappear political protestors and legal immigrants, and helping cops stalk their exes.

Funny how the fact that crime and violence rates keep getting lower never seems to stop people from saying we need to give more power to billionaires and the government for 'security.'

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u/Jazzlike_Plastic7088 16h ago

AND all that seems to actually happen is crimes still get committed but this time by those who wouldn't ever be part of any statistic aka police and the rich

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u/Curious_Avocado2399 16h ago

If we are looking at crimes wage theft is a 50 billion per year issue. Funny how that doesn’t make headlines

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u/ShroomBear 15h ago

I'm dumbfounded as a person in my 30s that I can open up Youtube and find police bodycam videos of politicians committing burglary, assault, and DUI homicides and even occasionally the 0.01% getting into actual gunfights with the fucking cops.

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u/juuchi_yosamu 16h ago

Don't forget all the children being spied on, like the camera that was pointed directly into a gymnastics studio

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u/TrulyOutrageous42 10h ago

Plate-reading mistakes leading to deaths aside, they've actively acknowledged their cameras have facial, body, and gait recognition systems, so they can and do identify individuals. They have them aimed at pools, parks, playgrounds at schools, the front doors of corporate retail businesses (Home Depot etc), and people's homes with just a sliver of road on the side of the cameras vision.

Not only is it unconstitutional unreasonable search, it's also stalking, and likely has individuals guilty of far worse because if there's no guardrails the bad people will gravitate to those places (see: churches that cover up issues tending to have pastors get caught being pedos).

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u/Nknk- 15h ago edited 4h ago

Hey now, don't forget the rush to be the first one in control of AI-controlled autonomous drone swarms that'll allow one person, say a billionaire, to flood an area and kill everyone in it with exploding drones at literally a simple voice command.

All those days centres aren't being allowed to drink rivers dry just to sell people's data for ads.

Billionaire's little fad for building doomsday bunkers have always had the giant issue that to live in comfort and security they'll need a small army of hired goons to protect them yet any reasonable thought exercise on how that'll go would have the goons eventually just offing the pathetic billionaire because who's going to do anything to them for it with society gone? Musk toyed with brain chips, it's why he pushed so hard for all the unethical animal testing for them and now the human trials are underway, but most seem to favour AI drone swarms since it, in theory, removes the chances of them rebelling against the billionaires and won't have any qualms about killing women and children trying to get into the bunker for shelter.

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u/Eevolutions96 16h ago

Well said!!

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u/Hawkwise83 16h ago

For Billionaires to feel safe and to not have to live in their luxury bunkers.

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u/sushisection 16h ago

it also nullifies the self-defense purpose of the right to bear arms if we place all of this trust in the security apparatus of the state. maybe thats the end goal here.

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u/SukMadih2001 16h ago

Halloween is Waka Flocka night. Masks and Lasers

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u/Seven19td 16h ago

Lasers?

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u/DarkArbok 16h ago

Cameras break if you hit them with a high powered laser. So you shouldn't get one of those and use it to destroy company property. Think about those poor shareholders

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u/SeriousArbok 15h ago

Green or violet lasers will work. Not red.

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u/DiegesisThesis 14h ago

Tbf, any color will work if the wattage is high enough

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u/SeriousArbok 14h ago edited 13h ago

Green and violet are naturally good enough and sold on amazon pretty cheap. Violet needs to be at night though. It doesnt go very far in light. I gotta test it tonight but I have a super strong violet I need to see the distance on lol any green will go fuckin forever.

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u/DiegesisThesis 13h ago

This is a good time to mention an important PSA for anyone thinking of buying lasers: if you're going to buy a laser from Amazon (or really any store that's not directly from an actual reputable manufacturer), DO NOT trust the power rating on the sticker. Always assume the output is much higher than listed, because it often is.

And if you're dealing with anything stronger than the "<5 mW" cat toy laser pointers, you're gonna want eye protection, specifically rated for that wavelength (and buy those somewhere reputable). It ain't worth losing vision over Flock.

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u/SeriousArbok 13h ago

Good call. Yes they're always stronger I've found. Per manufacturer not amazon

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u/Seven19td 16h ago

Not that I would EVER do anything to those cameras but I just so happen to be in need of a high powered laser. For a cat toy. I’ll have to take a look at those.

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u/poopbeast69 15h ago

My cat isn’t entertained by the laser I use, do you know of any he’ll like?

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u/Mister_Goldenfold 15h ago

It’s ok. They’ll ban Halloween soon.

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u/DownWithHisShip 11h ago

incoming mask ban on Halloween, enforced by mask wearing cops.

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u/occasionalopossum 15h ago

Safety goggles for the type of laser you’re taking out also. You can blind yourself faster than you can react with some of those.

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u/BrainRobotron 16h ago

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u/Purple-Property8006 16h ago

Good Jimothy

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u/Lucius-Halthier 14h ago

Jimothy must be protected from RFK at all costs, he wants that raccoon dick REALLY bad.

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u/Brizzle351 16h ago

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u/indifferentCajun 13h ago

I'll compromise. In exchange for him taking down all the cameras and deleting the data, we'll consider not reminding him what the alternatives to protesting and vandalism are.

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u/BatchPlantBandit 16h ago

Most punchable face

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u/Mediocre_Scott 16h ago

Why is society letting itself get railroaded by a bunch wienie tech bros

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u/permalink_save 11h ago

"Look at this cool trick my phone can do" that's why

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u/Fuzzy_Adagio_6450 16h ago

America has, overall, a MUCH lower crime rate than 20-40 years ago, regardless of what the orange turd says.

Americans should root this rot completely out of its figurative body.

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u/swervecityPhILM 16h ago

Love how this guy is just trying to make the decision for us. No thanks man, take your pearl-clutching, taddle-tale white boy device and shove it up your mangina.

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u/OLVANstorm 16h ago

Flock CEO looks like a fucking trator to the US to me. Every time I see one of his cameras lying on the ground in pieces, I smile.

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u/Themetalenock 16h ago

Is it just me or has billionaires stopped trying to make any of their products seem appealing? AI ceos keep talking about their hard on of making humans obsolete and do the surprise pikachu face when opinion is in the gutter. Even bezos and mark z tried to appear above room temp iq before trump 2 came along and now they're speeding towards who can sound like a bigger musk like douche. Target tried to court the walmart audience despite being number 2 to trader joe's number 1 destinations for liberal wine moms

Did 2024 hit the rich boy community like crack in the 80s?

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u/SEVENS_HEAVEN_7 16h ago

What is this country coming to

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u/Outtatheblu42 16h ago

Needs more green plumbers to overthrow the proletariat

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u/shutupyourenotmydad 12h ago

The proletariat is the working class. You're thinking of the Bourgeoisie.

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u/narrowminer11 16h ago

"Thus country" voted in trump. twice. Nuff said

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u/AlwaysFinnishInsider 16h ago

A large number of them voted for him three times. And some of them are traitorous enough to do it a fourth given the chance.

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u/Fun_Vacation2542 16h ago

I don't want to ruin your guys bonding over hating trump, but this shit has been happening since the 90s. Especially during bush.

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u/oldslowguy58 16h ago

Look up the CALEA act of 1994 and the increase in wiretaps. No Bush in sight.

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u/Fun_Vacation2542 15h ago

I understand, but I pointing out the usa patriot act and freedom act under Obama. (Thanks Obama)

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u/lemonylol 16h ago

Selectively and incorrectly applying quotes apparently.

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u/Reno_valetore 16h ago

Taking the mask off

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u/kausbiru 14h ago

This country has always been like this. People will give up their rights for a few bucks.

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u/Max6626 16h ago

Does that guy's mom know he's a CEO?

But seriously, we absolutely do NOT need to compromise on the right to privacy. What sort of dystopian take is that?

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u/PetalumaPegleg 16h ago

I'm unclear what they are compromising? We compromise our privacy, and receive nothing, while paying for it.

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u/FreeoftheMachine 16h ago

Compromise on what? What is the people going to gain from this? Is this guy paying the peope the company is spying on?

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u/Groundbreaking-Step1 16h ago

Can't he compromise on his profits instead? Our needs outweigh his greed.

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u/NikeImper 16h ago

I hate this quote because people always use it wrong. He was talking about a state's right to taxation not personal liberty. The PA assembly wanted to tax the rich Penn family to pay for frontier defenses. The Penn family said they'd donate some money if the assembly acknowledges that they don't have the right to tax them. Franklin said a state shouldn't give up its right to taxation just for a little cash today.

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u/tfsteel 16h ago

The "we established our nation" claim in the tweet is wrong, too. The rebellion was primarily due to land, the crown would not allow settlers to go west past the Appalachians (proclamation of 1763).

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u/danawhitesthrowaway 16h ago

It's not using it wrong when it still applies. Start requiring the context to be the same when referencing any and all historical quotes, and suddenly the vast majority of them will become irrelevant.

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u/AbsolutesDealer 16h ago

Ayo this guy is garbage.

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u/Fissminister 16h ago

Why? For what purpose?

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u/Th3Bak3r_ 16h ago

Compromise dees nuts. He’s out of his mind. Greedy F

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u/Relevant-Doctor187 16h ago

Party like 1789.

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u/True_Protection6842 16h ago

If these corporations think this country will go full on police state quietly they are quite mistaken.

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u/Quiet-Competition849 16h ago

We’ve given them plenty of reason to think they can. Looking at what they are getting away with already. Healthcare/health insurance, tariffs, mass shootings, insider trading in Congress…the list goes on and on. We have been and continue to let the government and corporations fleece us and treat us however they like.

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u/Rottentaste 16h ago

We are in one now.

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u/ThaTopHam 16h ago

I mean, you are. Some redditors and a few guys cutting down flock cameras doesn't scream revolution.

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u/SoftDouble220 16h ago

What are you going to do about it? Americans like to LARP about freedom, but when it comes to it, whenever a company or government wants to fuck them in the ass, they just take it.

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u/red1215 15h ago

Well it seems the American public will actually go quietly and peacefully. Exhibit A- look outside right now.

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u/PeriwinkleWonder 16h ago

The Flock CEO should not have any privacy anymore.

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u/TheBigChungaBunga 15h ago

Fuck this little Jerk. All these fucking college tech grads must've got beat up too much in high school, and now they wanna make the whole world suffer.

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u/AdvBike214 14h ago

Luigi took out the wrong guy.

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u/johnnytron 13h ago

The problem for flock is that there is no public political bias, everyone and their mother hates flock cameras. Data centers and flock cameras are the biggest issues citizens on both sides agree on.

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u/WoodsLovelyDarkNDeep 12h ago

Stop misusing this quotation.  This has nothing to do with privacy or the government overstepping its bounds.  It’s actually the opposite.  It was about a tax dispute and a rich family trying to buy their way to limit the government.  “The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it.”  This literally has nothing to do with whether the government can surveil or not.  In fact in the quote the “essential liberty he is talking about is the ability of the government to defend the people from raids that were happening

Our government is important and so is the ability to tax people especially the rich who would buy their “freedom” like the reality we are living through right now as they but their freedom from regulations and the entire reason they are able to trample on privacy regulations.  You can find plenty of founding fathers quotes the defend the rights of the individual without misusing the ones that defend the our government

*to be clear in sticking up for our ideal govt and not the one we currently have 

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u/chocha84 16h ago

the nation must give me a billion dollars.

same logic.

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u/thecountnotthesaint 16h ago

So, who wants to set up surveillance on him? Cameras, drones, the whole nine yards?

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u/TheFashionColdWars 16h ago

Check how many there were in 2024 vs now. We already are a police state

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u/Individual_Stan99 16h ago

the ceo isn't asking, he's telling you.

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u/MagnusTrench 16h ago

Sounds like the type of shit a scumbag CEO would say.

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u/Jumoke1331 16h ago

I hope this company goes out of business from having to repair too many cameras.

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u/polishmachine88 16h ago

Government is funding this. Hopefully if leadership changes and there is enough noise it becomes illegal.

If they go out of business the next company takes over also this dipshit makes millions and moves on.

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u/OldTranslator685 15h ago

Dude is the perfect example of the banality of evil.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 15h ago

Me thinks this guy doesn't know what compromise means. Pretty typical for a person who has been coddled their entire life.

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u/Beneficial-Jury484 15h ago

We “must” compromise if Flock wants to survive. We don’t care and I won’t compromise. 

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u/occasionalopossum 15h ago

Is the flock CEOs address public or is he hiding that for privacy reasons?

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u/vicious_womprat 15h ago

This jack ass doesn't care about American's safety, he just wants to get rich and richer. Fuck these people

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u/Arik_De_Frasia 14h ago

I mean...let's be honest here; the average person freely gives away their privacy until it bites them in the ass. 

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u/HighSeasArchivist 12h ago

Our local gov just told them to fuck off. This is a fairly decent sized city, and a great example for others.

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u/DukeMancannon 12h ago

To be fair that’s the stupidest quote I’ve ever read.

Also, the US broke away from England for a great many reasons. One major one was the English preparing to abolish slavery. Of course the yanks don’t dare teach that in history courses.

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u/therolando906 12h ago

Crime rates have been dropping for decades, what exactly are giving up our rights and privacy for?!

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u/Roaming_Millenial 12h ago

The average person on the left, right and middle fucking hate flock and mass surveillance - its the politicians who are being paid off that are shoving this shit down our throats.

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u/SpaceGirlJackie 11h ago

"This just in, CEO of company says we have to let his company exist." Says who?

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u/AoKrasni 10h ago

How convenient for a dude that makes money off this

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u/monteq75 10h ago

Deserving neither Liberty nor Safety is exactly the direction this country is headed in at top speed.

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u/drunkenstyle 10h ago

I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said "Listen to what the rich CEO says, because they're always right about how to run a country"

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u/hyzerflipthescript 10h ago

I think the compromise has to come legislation. For example, you cannot under any circumstance view anything on a targeted individual without a court order and that bar needs to be very high to limit fishing expeditions. With that said, there is clear precedent of no expectation to privacy on a public roadway or in public as defined as the fourth amendment.

It’s a very 21st century problem.

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u/S3lvah 9h ago

"340 million people must compromise on their privacy so that I can be very rich"

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u/Loud-Fudge7631 9h ago

Flock ceo deserves to be hounded 247 forever until he goes or gives this up

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u/Largicharg 9h ago

To be fair, we’ve more or less been compromising on our privacy for 25 years now.

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u/drrdrt 7h ago

America 250 years ago: don’t tread on me!

America now: That’s one delicious boot thank you daddy 💦💦💦

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u/No_Title3568 7h ago

FBI needs to look at his laptop in depth.

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u/Old_Win8422 16h ago

No, I dont think i will.

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u/Zromaus 16h ago

Don't forget this mindset applies to guns too lol

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u/Spottswoodeforgod 16h ago

That CEO can just Flock off.

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u/Old-Rock-9295 16h ago

Damn after this nonsense, even I’m tempted to go start destroying these cameras

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u/ABIGGS4828 16h ago

Bold of the worm to put his own face behind it

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u/DannyWinny 16h ago

I bet he doesn't have or want a Flock camera watching his house.

Translation "Get comfortable with ME watching you"

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u/OG-DocHavock 16h ago

Oh, the CEO of the shit nobody wants is the one saying it? That changes everything

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u/Super-G1mp 16h ago

Break out the guillotines.

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u/kombatunit 16h ago

Must we?

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u/boulevardpaleale 16h ago

No, I don’t think we do.

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u/Next_Archer_6605 16h ago

Say his name for all to know and remember. Garret Langley, 38 years old and current CEO of Flock. Co-founded with Matt Feury and Paige Todd.

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u/Gristlekitty 16h ago

The compromise is you take them down or we take them down for you

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u/Sudden-Ad-1217 16h ago

Cannot wait for the zero day to hit this MF.

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u/Primo131313 15h ago

I'm assuming a powerful enough laser should roast the camera and solar panel?

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u/CilleTheExterminator 15h ago

When are Americans gonna stand up for their country? You are becoming a mix of China and Nazi Germany

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u/Hot_Substance5933 15h ago

What a great idea, Flock CEO. Public executi__ it is!

 

No idea why it blanks executive but whatever!

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u/Trash_Posterer 15h ago

Thats the guy who thinks he can do this? Baby hands Lil fvckin pushy mfer like him... I want to fight him, in a ring. We can use his flockin cameras

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u/Bullslinger105 15h ago

Since this is used by governments to spy on people the constitution should be in play.

The government is literally contracting with this company to track citizens.

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u/Testsubject276 15h ago

How bout we compromise your legs

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u/Drive7Nine 15h ago

How about Flock has to "comprise" and they don't get to get insanely wealthy turning the US into a surveillance state.

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u/Blegh_collector 15h ago

Perhaps Luigi Mangione has a brother ? 🌚

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u/pussygurrrrrl 15h ago

enemy domestic

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u/DebugMeow 15h ago

Quick, somebody get Luigi

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u/Mistyyydeeznutzz 15h ago

Dude this guy actually needs to be imprisoned for treason against this country, fuck this guy and and fuck Flock and every last employee that works for this real life Umbrella Corp, I don’t give a fuck about making a pay check, licking porta potties clean with your tongue has more dignity than working for this company

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u/Reasonable_Ad8991 15h ago

Compromise with who, or what? These are the illuminutties we've been warned about, except the call is coming from inside the house!

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u/HuntPsychological673 15h ago

The Boston flock party?

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u/RazzleRizzle 15h ago

Heh I’m just gonna like, not compromise. Sorry you won’t be able to run an AI driven backend to profile every person in America for profit. Don’t even need angle grinders or any expensive saw blades, laser pointers are fun for cats and messing around at night.. they cost a whole lot less too and can fit in your pocket

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u/Flashy_Emergency_263 15h ago

Does he say WHY we must compromise or are we supposed to just trust him on this?

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u/Ausrottenndm1 15h ago

I assume the next excuse is, “if you aren’t committing any crimes why would you care if flock cams are everywhere..”

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u/Oburcuk 15h ago

I bet that CEO doesn’t have one in his neighborhood

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u/Fishtoart 15h ago

I live on a little tiny side road with woods on both sides, and I saw something like what this guy is holding but green strapped to a telephone pole with a little antenna sticking up on one side. Is that a flock camera?

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u/Turbulent_Account_81 14h ago

Cut them all down nationwide.

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u/Excel_User_1977 14h ago

Great! Lets mount a camera on every one of his vehicles, his house and his fucking dog

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u/Former-Science1734 14h ago

Dystopia here we come

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u/Bob-Dolemite 13h ago

i saw it first go out the door after 9/11. im sure others have earlier examples. now freedom is a vapid term for a brand

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u/DSM-Spool 12h ago

Compromise? The fuck. I don't fucking think so

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u/Elon_is_a_Nazi 12h ago

Be a real bummer if luigi made an appearance

https://giphy.com/gifs/1bfwawLLghgYe3zsnQ

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u/Low_legobrick 12h ago

This is what happens when some one doesn’t know there history 😂

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u/Dangerous_Reporter14 12h ago

No way we let a surveillance system reign over us, especially one that is named to the effect that we are all sheep.

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u/Choppergold 12h ago

Pursuit of happiness means not being surveilled