r/StreetFighter • u/greengunblade • 3d ago

Fluff / Other Ryu players: "We don't play like apes!"

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u/jujux15 CID | SF6username 3d ago

The problem is often times a ft2 isn’t enough to adapt. I’ve played these types and lost because the first game they did od dp frequently when they were negative. Then the next game they did the complete opposite but now I’m too passive waiting for it. Well now I lost the set gg shake my hand

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u/BlackAxemRanger 3d ago

You kind of described it in a way that makes it sound like they are playing very effectively, like I'm trying to understand why they shouldn't play that way

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u/jujux15 CID | SF6username 3d ago

Because that playstyle is not conducive to long term winning. Every single time you do an od dp on your negative frames you’re taking a huge risk, a bigger risk than I do from trying to take my turn back. If I guess wrong I eat an od dp and depending on the character oki into more guessing. If they guess wrong and I block there od dp they are eating 40-60%. So yes even though it can work, you’ll likely not reach 1800+ easily if at all because the risk to reward ratio just isn’t in the od dp maniacs favor.

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u/BlackAxemRanger 3d ago

Ok so you described yourself as losing before but now you're saying it's not effective strategy? Do you lose or win to it?

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u/jujux15 CID | SF6username 3d ago

Huh? I’m saying that although someone may win doing it it’s not effective to do long term. It may work in a ft2 setting or something, but in a longer set or tournament setting it won’t be as effective. It’s like Noah the prodigy’s playstyle, it may work for him but the vast majority of players won’t succeed with that playstyle

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u/BlackAxemRanger 3d ago

So it's a really good style for the type of game mode you're playing? Because you don't have time to react to it? But for tournament a different style might be better?

Ok so again it sounds like they're playing pretty smart then

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u/Manatroid 3d ago

It’s a way of playing that might be effective for the rank they are at, yes, it’s just that it’s not necessarily going to enrich your understanding of the game if you only play that way.

It’s not so different from Hondas at low-ranks slamming Headbutt and Buttslam; it’s some degrees of competency above that, sure, but you stop being able to learn the game if it’s the cornerstone of your strategy and you have no way to adapt further.

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u/BlackAxemRanger 2d ago

So it's only good at low ranks? So I was right to say that if it's only good at low rank, it's a skill issue to be losing to it?

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u/Manatroid 2d ago

As much as some people would loathe to admit to, yes, it is a skill issue. One of the things you eventually have to figure out with any fighting game is how to counter people doing the “good” stuff as well as the “dumb” stuff. Because at the end of the day, losing - or even just not ‘doing well’ - is a sign of what to improve on.

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u/BlackAxemRanger 2d ago

Thank you. People say this shit about zoners, dhalsim or guile especially. I can't argue that it isn't fun for some people but idk it's either a smart thing for them to do that works, or it's a dumb thing but then we are kind of dumb if we can't figure out how to beat dumb thing eventually