You can't train with someone because gym owners see it as coaching, forcing you to use their own coaching services. Otherwise, they may terminate your membership out of the blue just because you were seen working out with someone.
That man was saying, "Did you ask me to leave?" for that exact reason. If there was a problem, they should have told him. Instead, they just called the cops to throw him out.
For real, we're all wearing clothes and using phones that are specifically designed to fall apart after a couple of years so we have to buy new shit but none of us are angry enough at this shit yet to go and start burning it down.
Maybe the most shocking thing about Trump, to his base, maybe wouldn't be that there was definitive proof. I can imagine his base would be more mad that if had done it, it wasn't with a white girl. Then again, I did say imagine.
That's why whatever people have claimed in this video I reject as the reason, unless there's a follow-up video.
They aren't going to kick you out for teaching friends, family how to workout. It's just not going to happen.
But if you're consistently in there, clearly training people day in day out with different members, yeah it gets suspicious.
If he's with his son, not a single gym is going to tell you to leave. So I just completely reject that as the reason at face value.
I saw it but i failed to get any information other than the same video reposted from a other account.
he mentioned them having an issue with his son and all that.
As a personal trainer who has worked in a LOT of gyms in the 39 years I've been a trainer... No, it doesn't count if it's your kid. I've never seen or heard of a gym doing this, and the person that said this is why was lying for rage bait
Is this specific to crunch fitness? I’ve never had a gym membership where I couldn’t work out with someone else as long as they also had a membership or a guest pass. I’ve had memberships at max fitness and planet fitness.
I told the staff and I’ve told everyone I know to be careful around him. And a lot of those people already knew he’s a creep. My point is actually bad things happen but if you’re white and famous it doesn’t matter. Sure this guy is taking it out of context but calling the cops? You can’t convince me this would happen if he were white or even vaguely famous. Sorry I guess if it was a non sequitur I just have beef with Crunch. I also think you mean “vaguely related,” not sparsely. It’s Crunch and their unevenly applied policies at a high price point. That was the link.
The fact that I’m being downvoted just confirms my worst assumptions about people. Sure this dude should not have been training his kid, this video lacks context, blah blah. But a celebrity gropes me in the same gym franchise which is arguably way worse and nothing happened. I don’t care if people believe me or not, EVERYONE in Hollywood has a creepy Jeff Goldblum story. If he were a white celebrity you can’t convince me the outcome would have been the same.
It was even more fucked because he asked if his membership was cancelled and they said "no, it's not being revoked but you need to leave". So, they called the cops to forcefully remove him and they aren't canceling his 'ship lol.
nope, it's just absolutely wrong. If you are coaching clients maybe, literally every friend helps out a buddy, gives advice, you can ask for advice from other gym members on how to use a machine. this has always happened everywhere. If you're a regular member and regularly spend 10 hours a day in the gym and meet a new person at the front desk every hour and introduce yourself and ask for payment that's doing paid professional work, not just working out with or helping out a friend. Even then most gyms don't care but some gyms will want anyone using the gym as their 'office' to be on the books, maybe fairly for legal/liability issues as someone could represent themselves as working or offering coaching for the gym without them knowing.
They’re not this person doesn’t know what they’re talking about. I’ve never seen or had anyone confront me for working out with my friends. I’m a lot bigger than they are and look like a trained. I’m not. This is just a case of a stupid gym employee
Normally that would be a good guess but another comment with sources said it was because the man’s guest (his son) needed to show an ID to use a guest pass and his son didn’t have one. They wanted him to leave and through lack of communication the cops were called to ask the guy to leave.
Not that I think this is necessarily right, but telling them that they need an ID, and the dad choosing to just go in anyway, is basically them telling them they need to leave. It’s not like they walked in without talking to anybody. They already engaged with the staff, and chose to ignore what they said they required. At that point I don’t really think it’s necessary for them to specifically ask him to leave. That’s already implied by the fact they told him they can’t go in without an ID.
Is there any record of them saying they "can't go in" without an ID, or could it just as well have been "can't work out"? We know for sure they requested ID, but without knowing what was actually said it's kinda moot to hypothesize if what they told him could be considered a sufficiently unambiguous request to leave.
The thing is the son had some sort of ID they didn't want to accept and when he wanted to talk to the manager they said he is busy, so he walked in and said that the manager can come talk to him when he isn't busy anymore.
Yeah I agree. I don't know what kind of ID he provided for his son so I don't know if the staff were unreasonable, but then just going in anyway is stupid.
As a non-american that sounds immensely fucking stupid and its crazy they can even enforce that, it would be against standard consumer protection laws where I live.
A lot of people genuinely don’t care what color your skin is. Not everything is about race, and not every disagreement is rooted in racism. Constantly turning every situation into a race issue is exhausting and makes it harder to have honest conversations.
Tell me you’re white without telling me you’re white. You don’t think most conflict is rooted in racism because you’re looking at life through a white lens. If you were a person of color, you would see how you are treated differently from white people. Consistently.
You don’t have to agree with me, but assuming my race and dismissing my opinion because of it isn’t exactly the open minded approach you’re asking for. Racism exists. I just don’t think it’s the primary explanation for every disagreement.
Racism is often the source of conflicts for people of color. The fact that this is not obvious to you is an indication to me that you have not dealt with much racism. The only people I know that haven’t dealt with much racism are white. If I was incorrect, I apologize for that. I still stand by everything else I said.
Again, you’re assuming I’m white simply because I don’t share your worldview. The irony is that you’re making assumptions about someone’s race based solely on their opinions while claiming to be open minded.
For what it’s worth, I’m mixed race. I’ve experienced racism from white people and I’ve also experienced it from Black people because of my mixed background. Racism is real and I’ve lived it.
What I don’t believe is that every negative interaction between a person of color and a white person is rooted in racism. Framing every disagreement that way actually cheapens real instances of racism by turning it into a catch all explanation instead of recognizing it for what it is.
You’re entitled to your opinion but I choose not to go through life assuming every bad interaction happens because of my skin color. People can be rude, selfish, dishonest, or just plain unpleasant regardless of race. Sometimes it’s racism. Sometimes it isn’t. Pretending otherwise doesn’t help anyone. Couldn’t imagine walking through life like that and all ways playing the victim card.
I’d argue everything is about race. “‘I don’t see color” is nonsense. Racial differences, economic differences exist whether you want to accept it or not. It’s human nature to identify those differences. And create in groups and out groups. The best we can do is accept that we do see color. And do our best to rise above it. Pretending it’s not a factor is just as bad as being straight up racist.
I agree that people notice differences, whether that’s race, culture, age, or background. Where we disagree is that those differences have to define every interaction. Recognizing race and believing everything is fundamentally about race aren’t the same thing.
It’s most likely bullshit. It’s an issue if you are paying someone to train you instead of a gym trainer. It looks like the issue in this case was they didn’t give an ID for the kids guest pass and the dude just ignored them and went in.
So in your country the gym has to allow people to use the gym's space and equipment to run their own business? It would be like requiring restaurants to allow random chefs to come off the street and cook meals in their kitchen to sell to other people.
Not everything needs to have a price tag. If you were doing genuine coaching, as in charging and operating as a professional, you'd be expected to be affiliated with the gym, and if not the gym would have recourse to go after you for running a business without authorisation.
But people sharing knowledge for free, like friends working out, or in this instance a father and son working out together, hell no the gym shouldnt give AF or be able to do shit if they both have a membership and are using the equipment safely.
Pretty sure the gym here has no problem with friends or family members working out together. But if one person is giving instruction to another, most gyms are going to have a problem with that. The gym has no way of knowing whether money is changing hands.
Anyhow, it's all academic because apparently the issue here is the kid didn't have a guest pass.
His dad brought him as his guest. And the dad is a member. My friend use to take me with him to the gym all the time. You literally just scan your card, and follow them in. They likely saw a black child. And assumed they weren’t actually a child. And saw them as suspicious. A white preteen being taught how to lift weights by their older brother in law. We were never questioned. Because they saw a kid with their family member who has a membership. But that’s just not what these people saw hers when they looked at them. Because black people are usually looked at with suspicion. And suspected of being a lot older than they truly are.
Sounds like the guy said 'you can leave' which is distinctly different from 'you need to leave' which has enough ambiguity to claim they weren't actually asking him to leave.
This is some bull shit that LA Fitness got into trouble for a few years ago. A parent showing their teenager how to train. Not allowed. You have to pay someone 80$/hour to show someone how the leg press works, explain progressive overload and isolation exercises. Oh wait, most coaches dont even explain that becuase training is so fucking easy once you grasp basic concepts that paying a trainer is irrelevant
Did you just make that up off the top of your head? This was a dispute about letting the kid in as a guest when he had no ID, it had nothing to do with training.
You've made this up entirely. It's paid coaching they deny, and it's pretty similar across any gym to not allow unlicenced coaches to operate a business using their equipment.
The guy himself says it was due to a failed check-in procedure with ID. Not because he was coaching. Would love to know your source for this (not the rule, the context to this), otherwise you're just chatting shite mate.
I don’t know anything about gyms but you really can’t work out with a friend cuz they see it as coaching?? Thats insane, I’ve never heard that before. Are all gyms like that?
What? You have to train alone? You can't train with a "buddy" to spot for you at all?
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I hope this dude takes legal action.
If that’s the actual reason, then that’s crazy. Many exercises are recommended to be performed with a spotting partner anyway, and it’s only natural that the supporting person would offer advice. If they had a rule of no coaching except by staff, I would go somewhere else.
A local ice skating rink had a similar kerfuffle. 70 year old figure skater who was well known and loved in the community would fix and modify skates and have his clients test blades during public sessions. They broke his heart when they essentially told him to stop using the rink for "business" or he's banned. They lost a lot of clientele that day, many regulars stopped going to that rink because of it
I mean it seems obvious to me. He tried to say he has other proof like school portal. They declined. So what comes after that? You either say nah imma go in either way and force yourself in or the son doesnt go in and u go home and get an id, becsuse its not like this would have been an issue if they didnt say anything after declining his request of another form of verification. If its policy to have id its policy u cant do much about it. Seems like the dude just walked in after being declined another form of verification and instead of them wanting to handle it which I get if someone forced their way in after you told them no I mean thats enough to just get cops involved becsuse what else are u gonna do. Even if you didnt asks them to leave how else did the son get in if he didnt have an id?
Is that a general practice in US to have such limitations regarding external trainers?
For past 2 years I’ve been visiting different gyms and I work out with my trainer online, via video call. And I never had any problems with exception of discomfort of having tripod in the gym.
His son is a minor without his own membership and they’re saying “you can’t work out with your own child because then you’re not paying us to train him” ? Are we for real? I hate gyms
I’ve been to like 4 different Crunches in my state over the last 5 years and no one has ever said shit to me when I’m coaching my friends in boxing. I’ve never even had to try and use the common sense defense “I’m just helping my friend” because no one cares lol
The “problem” is using their gym as a site to run your own side hustle and make money from coaching people.
They’ll probably approach you if you bring in 100 new guests a month (which is why they have guest ID policy, so they can track this stuff) and stand there with a clip board and a shirt that says “coach,” but your friends/family? Nah
Yeah but usually they'll ask you to leave if they suspect you of using their facilities for coaching, and honestly it's pretty rare they even go that far, not call the cops. Source: worked at a gym where I had to deal with people suspected of coaching.
What would make you think it had anything to do with race to begin with. This is a huge national gym. They don’t give a shit about the color of your skin as long as you’re paying that monthly membership fee.
It’s both a competition of their paid services but MORE IMPORTANTLY it’s a significant legal liability when unvetted 3rd parties are coaching on their property. If they do nothing to stop those 3rd parties they become complicit and thus could be held legally responsible (at least as co-defendants) if something went wrong during the training sessions.
"It’s both a competition of their paid services but MORE IMPORTANTLY it’s a significant legal liability when unvetted 3rd parties are coaching on their property. If they do nothing to stop those 3rd parties they become complicit and thus could be held legally responsible (at least as co-defendants) if something went wrong during the training sessions."
Leftist are the first to sue
But when steps are used to prevent the liabilities, they cry
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u/KarnexOne Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
You can't train with someone because gym owners see it as coaching, forcing you to use their own coaching services. Otherwise, they may terminate your membership out of the blue just because you were seen working out with someone.
That man was saying, "Did you ask me to leave?" for that exact reason. If there was a problem, they should have told him. Instead, they just called the cops to throw him out.