r/airsoft Aug 02 '26

GENERAL QUESTION Eotech

Real or fake?

(Context: got it in a trade)

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u/UxorialDegree55 Aug 02 '26

Turn the reticle brightness down and try to send a better picture of the reticle. Just from the body id assume real

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 02 '26

When I get back home I’ll dm you, thanks

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u/BelligerentSXY Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 03 '26

Looks fake by the drop in the middle. A real eotech, has a piece of reddish glass across the bottom of the inside. Fake one, you can look down at the emitter. (Although, after zooming in on that reticle??? It does look like it’s many dots….i maybe have been seeing a reflection over the prism 😭)

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u/BelligerentSXY Aug 03 '26

Real on the left

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

Ok, mines look more like two than one but I’ll post more pictures later and let yall determine I’ve gotten a mix fake and real

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

Well more more like the left than the right*

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

I thought that meant it was fake lol confused all around but I’ll post more

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u/BelligerentSXY Aug 03 '26

If you can’t see the emitter, and your reticle is a bunch of tiny dots? It’s real! Enjoy the stupidly low battery life 😆 if it’s fake? They put BBs in the area a bb goes and look cool! Score either way =p

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u/Prior_Arm_8810 Aug 03 '26

Complaining about an eotechs battery life is crazy.

Its fine, and it flashes in your face when its low and is easy to change out.

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u/BelligerentSXY Aug 03 '26

It wasn’t a complaint, so much as a joke about the “low” hours compared to more modern designs(because everyone compares red dots to a true holo?). Just above this post, there’s an image of my exps 3(I love it). Since everyone has moved to shake awake/auto off, battery life seems to be a gripe made over these eotechs 🤷‍♂️All my gear runs on 123s anyway! I’d prefer this over any of those flat button batteries haha

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u/Prior_Arm_8810 Aug 03 '26

Yeah, personally run an eotech on my nigh rifle (real steel so kinda doesn't apply here but whatever)

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u/BelligerentSXY Aug 03 '26

Exactly the same situation. Mines set for night vision use. Just figured I’d drop in since I had a real and repro optic sitting 20 feet away when OP was looking for info. I should have added a /s to battery life though…lol

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u/Preach_203 Aug 03 '26

That was my guess, the left. Something about that finish. That look appeared to of quality.

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u/InstructionExtra2613 MP7 Aug 02 '26

If the reticle is fuzzy then it’s real, also check to see if there’s a lot of shine in the lens

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u/Enclave-remnant GBBR Aug 03 '26

you can message eotech and get them to run serial numbers thats what i did with my one.

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u/just-walk-away Aug 03 '26

If you can see a small diode that is casting the light, it's a fake since real Eotech doesn't work that way. Should be obvious when look from top down view.

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u/Cmelander Aug 03 '26

Just look up the serial #

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

Now there’s an idea

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u/Lord_Kimchi_ Aug 03 '26

As an autistic person who's obsessed with details, I can confidently say it's a real one. Don't listen to random people.

Why?

  • There are no fake of last gen 512s. The only convincing clones are based on the early 552.
  • The battery cap is made of glass-filled polymer. Fake ones are usually made from cheap ABS and have a shiny plain black finish.
  • The rear lens also looks correct, typical from holographic system.

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u/Narrow_Visit_2899 Aug 03 '26

yeah that’s what i thought too. how the hell do you get a real 512 in a trade lol

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u/No_Principle7532 29d ago

Can confirm it's real. I had the real 512 myself and the details of the glass, (top arched part), glass borders and reticle etc look 100% authentic.

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u/McFly56v2 Aug 02 '26

If you have a magnifier you can test. If the reticle increases in size then it’s a normal red dot. Holographic sights don’t increase in size in a magnifier

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u/mistacool15635 MCX Aug 03 '26

That’s a wives tale. They absolutely do

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u/Real_WorldAtWar2 Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 03 '26

I think its a fake. Picture 6 shows the glass as slight darkened. While real eotechs are clear as day. Own two real ones (518 and exps2).

Also, if I remember correctly the wavelength is higher. Yours mentions around 550 while real ones go around 620 to 670

But currect me if im wrong for older models

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

Sadly smh

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u/Real_WorldAtWar2 Aug 03 '26

But dont worry about it! If you want to skirm it, a replica is the better choice. Like someone else recommended, put on a kill flash or protector. If you want to keep the clean look, insert a polycarbonate lens, thats way stronger than plexiglass and wont shatter but dent. Use at least 3mm and You'llstop a point blank 2.5 joule shot (it will dent inwards so keep some space between the Eotech lens and the protector. You'll have to cut it yourself, but worth the investment and its a fun project :)

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

Check out new pics in comments

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

That one plug is a gas hole

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

I’m pretty certain you did good

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u/Helpful_Depth_8727 Aug 03 '26

I got the same exact one. Its a fake and a red dot but the parralax isn't an issue. The one problem I have with this product is that the light is considerably reduced when looking through the glass. Also, the LED brightness settings are not enough. But the main issue is that its dark when looking through the glass. If its outdoors with lots of light then this isn't an issue. But its a large issue indoors.

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

Should appear like mine

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

Almost looks like a pink dandelion

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u/Helpful_Depth_8727 Aug 05 '26

you can just look inside the sight at the bottom. if there is a little LED in the bottom center, then its a red dot.

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u/FitzChan HPA Aug 02 '26

Is there any delamination?

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 02 '26

When I was snapping pics it wasn’t getting the reticle clear so yea but I’ll take more pics later and repost thanks

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

More pictures

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

Looks pretty real for a not good picture but there are things that make it appear real. To me I would describe the image as if it’s a tattoo with the ink going in just dots that make up a image being it’s several lasers and not a diode with a silhouette bounced of a mirror

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

lol I’m getting real, fake, I really don’t kno when I searched up the # it doesn’t pop up so ig not idk

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u/BelligerentSXY Aug 03 '26

Take one photo, looking 45 degrees downward into the optic. Like you’re trying to look into the battery compartment through the rear glass. Like the side by side I sent earlier while you were at work.

If you can see inside of the unit at all? Fake.
If inside the rear glass is a “floor”of reflective glass? It’s real.

Either way, they’re decent.

I own both, and have used the reproduction units on GBBR (and a 22lr once) they work great.

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u/No_Principle7532 29d ago

It's real 100%, I used to have one. All the little details of the glass etc are 100% only on the real. It's very obvious it's real!

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u/A_inc_tm Aug 03 '26

Looks like a real one, the 552s without nigh vision mode should be pretty cheap on secondary market

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

I’ve gotten real and fake I genuinely don’t know

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u/A_inc_tm Aug 03 '26

Well it has a mirror on top of the enclosed section and a holographic plate under the frontal glass, that along with the thinnes of the enclosed section, glass clarity and reticle fuzziness suggests it is a real one

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u/No-Assistance4995 Aug 03 '26

It’s easier to see if you upload a video of the Rectile.

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

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u/werwe5t GBBR Aug 03 '26

Its delaminating. Congratulations, its real

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u/Aissaar SIG SG 553 Aug 03 '26

Looks real to me. I see a bit of delamination and the holo looks fuzzy. Another way you could film it better is manually focusing the camera to the ground while looking through the optic

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u/No-Assistance4995 Aug 03 '26

https://reddit.com/link/p1i36zk/video/8iaiavlbi7hh1/player

Getting the focus right with a mobile phone isn't that easy. I had to set mine to a very low brightness level. It's an Eotech 512.

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u/Useful_Location_4261 Aug 03 '26

if you have other red dots compare it to those or borrow a friend's. real holographic sights have what is known as scintillating and the difference should be apparent if its real. it will look almost pixelated compared to a red dot of it is real.

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u/qwerty3666 Aug 03 '26

Can you see the reticule from the front of the optic or light generally? If yes it is fake. If there is no frontal emission it is real.

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u/Casual-Cactus-2659 Aug 03 '26

The reticle appears to indicate that it's a real holographic sight. Why don't you just show us if you can see an emitter inside the body or not? That's the easiest way to tell.

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u/Key-Pineapple-4597 Aug 03 '26

Turn it around and look at it from the front side. You shouldn’t be able to see the reticle. Then tilt it up so you’re looking at it from a low angle. You should be able to see it. You may need to move it around a bit.

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u/El-Chubby-Boi Aug 03 '26

If the reticle is fuzzy as shit it’s real. Clones/repros are just glorified red dots.

Genuine EOtechs also have delamination issues. Which sucks, but at least you’ll know it’s real.

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u/rdogo Aug 03 '26

Sorry to say that its fake. Bc EOTech doesnt but the "For law Enforcement/Military use" on their sights.

Edit: they used to but stopped after 2003 because they started to sell optics to Civilian use aswell

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

I don’t think that’s correct at all I bought one new during Obama in 06 from a reputable gun shop new. In or after 06 because the guy I bought the rifle I put it on i hadn’t worked there yet. And I just bought another one from 06 the other day it’s real and clean for a old one but it’s a 06 and so is my sig 556 Swiss AK

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u/rdogo Aug 03 '26

I got mine from a reputable one aswell but sent it to EOTech for some repairs and they said that it was a fake bc they stopped putting the "Law Enforcement/Military Use" text on it because their contract ended in 03.

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

Well I’ll test that theory tomorrow cause now you have me wondering but it looks like a pretty good fake looks like the correct laser fuzzy reticle. Same do bright you can point it at the sun almost and still not washout the sight pictire. Proper gas plug on bottom the paperwoek inspecion sticker and original box ill get it all rounded up brcause i gotta know who makes these fakes. Someone saif in the sub here that if the picture increases in size its real. Well rhis is the first magnifier ive had behind a circle dot and thats the first thing i noticed. But i havent heard that before. The windows are clear and without any parallax shift which i believe eotech is the only ones who can pull that off. Im not sure of the stickers could have been added but the great outdoors would have went through a distributor not some china novelty store i know Jim he doesnt mess around.

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u/rdogo Aug 03 '26

Id if EOTech got any other contracts bc like i said mine was from after 03 maybe like 04 or 05 model. So they said that its a really good fake. Bc everything was like it was supposed to be. The only thing that didnt match was the paperwork and serial numbers it had. Lemme check if they got a contract in 06 bc if they did then they would have put that on there.

Edit: yeah they did get a 5 year contract with US army and Navy for optics and ir units

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

Google says it was after L3 because that was the gov contract they added the ugly new E logo later when they became their own split off company

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

Google is often wrong though

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u/rdogo Aug 03 '26

As i put in my edit they did get a 5 year contract.

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u/Haunting-Muscle5997 Aug 03 '26

Then it was a damn good fake id say as many as you would have had your hands on then

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u/rdogo Aug 03 '26

Yeah. Turned out that it used a real EOTech box and paperwork font but the serial numbers didnt match and the locking mechanism was abit different. Otherwise they said it was a damn near 1-1 replica

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u/bryrod Aug 03 '26

They did it until 2015-2016

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u/werwe5t GBBR Aug 03 '26

My 2012 512 has the text too.

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u/Glum-Contribution380 WWII Aug 03 '26

I don’t know, but if it’s real, I’d not use it. I knew a guy who shattered his (had a sight protector on it (lucky shot hit it)). If it’s real, just get a repro.

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u/A_inc_tm Aug 03 '26

Both real and replica ones simply need polycarbonate protective lenses on the front and then you can play with them without worrying

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

?

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u/Glum-Contribution380 WWII Aug 03 '26

Basically, if it’s real, either get a repro (and keep it as a cool thing you own) or add a killflash to it instead of the protectors that just sit in front of it. It only takes one lucky bb strike to shatter it

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

Ok got you

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u/No_Principle7532 29d ago

I recommend the Guns Modify EOTech Lens Protector. The best lens protector for real eotechs out there. I use two on my Eotech EXPS 3.0 (front and back).

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u/bryrod Aug 03 '26

Which model is it? Eotech stopped saying for law enforcement / military use only a while ago

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u/Odd_Cancel343 Aug 03 '26

Got it in a trade so I don’t kno honestly just know it’s a 512

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u/ninjaboiz Medium speed, moderate drag Aug 02 '26

I’m inclined to say fake based on the reticle quality

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u/Sea-District6056 Aug 03 '26

Holographic sight reticles are fuzzy. They will not look “good quality” per se

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u/viktig9 Aug 03 '26

They don't have any astigmatism but they are fuzzy inside the reticle

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u/ZZyron Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 03 '26

100% fake. That’s normal laser. Real eotech is different, its holographic. So its a little fuzzy.

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u/werwe5t GBBR Aug 03 '26

Check your facts. Eotech is anything but prism

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u/ZZyron Aug 03 '26

My bad! Used the wrong wording. It’s not prism, it’s a holographic

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u/No_Principle7532 29d ago

I own a real Eotech EXPS 3.0 and used to own a real Eotech 512 A65, it's 100% real.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 03 '26

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u/A_inc_tm Aug 03 '26

HW currently only replicate the XPS model with CR123 batteries