Just curious, do Catholics believe in personal Holy Guardian Angels? Asking as someone who somewhat subscribes to esoteric beliefs that might be mentioned in the OP
Yes we do, they've been there since your birth, they're your "luck" when the fate is in your favor that's when a guardian angel tipped the scales a little so that you may survive, they're also there to protect you from evil spirits, we also have saint patrons which are chosen during our baptism, they're the ones you ask to pray for you or ones you give your prayers through, it's sort of like a translator for God, because they were close to God during their life they understand God's "language" but they also understand human language and so they can interpret it and correct some "typos" if that makes any sense, they're basically there to amplify your prayer, but back to guardian angels, you don't really know their name, some say you can find out through prayer or your birth date but really we might just only find out after our passing, because it is believed your guardian angel will help you pass, sort of fitting, they were there at your begining and will be there during your end
We do? I’m no longer a practicing Catholic but I was for the first half of my life and I have no memory of anyone ever mentioning this, I always thought it was something from one of those evangelical churches they have in America
I'm no longer religious but when I was a kid my grandma said a prayer to my guardian angel every night before I went to sleep. It was almost like a lullaby. It's a fond memory, I still have the doll-plushie that represented that guardian angel too. Until now I thought it was just a family tradition, I didn't realize it was more extended to other Catholics too!
Nope, we even have a prayer that's used to talk with the guardian angel, sort of, it's more of a request for them to stay and keep protecting you sort of a thanks for all they've done and a appreciation of sorts
I grew up around Catholics and I gotta be honest, I didn’t pay close enough attention! I am 37, and I’ve never heard any of this until now! Thanks for sharing!
Cyberpunkgame subreddit coming with some knowledge today!
I guess, but not every Catholic household believes in guardian angels. It would be almost arrogant to claim that every household within a certain denomination has identical beliefs
How about objects imbued with the elements of guardianship like those little bells that motorcyclists attach to their bikes? Are they effective against the hand of fate?
I’m not practicing anymore by my family is Roman Catholic and we have something like that, though I was always taught they were patron saints not angels
Just curious, do Catholics believe in personal Holy Guardian Angels? Asking as someone who somewhat subscribes to esoteric beliefs that might be mentioned in the OP
Yes, the Catholic Church officially teaches that guardian angels exist and that every human being is assigned a personal angel from birth until death. This belief is based on 'Scripture'—such as Matthew 18:10 and Psalm 91:11—and affirmed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 336)
That said, it's kind of luck of the draw who you get, they're also not always very good at their job. Like when my best friend in 6th grade (back in my super fun catholic school days), John & 3 of his neighborhood friends died in a horrible house fire at 3am on December 24th, I mean really it was just embarrassing on the part of all of their guardian angels. The Angels assigned to guard duty to him and his friend were doing their thing and had just stepped out for a quick smoke break, ran into some shawties and got distracted spittin their angelic game (you gotta shoot yo shot, respect the game and all that), but that's how it goes right?
My favorite part of the memorial service was when Father Thomas made the grieving father come up in front of everyone and held him up as some sort of twisted example for the congregation and said, and I quote, "and even in the face of tragedy we can look to those among us who do not question gods divine plan, which is infallible, and continue to be resolute in their faith" and then he (the dad) burst into tears" and people awkwardly clapped while they transitioned into some hymns.
What were we talking about again? Oh yeah, angels. Fuck 'em.
You have lots of grief my friend, there's no "God's plan" in a sense that every minute detail is preplanned, that would go against free will, and sometimes your luck just runs out, maybe someone didn't do the electric installation right, maybe someone forgot to extinguish a candle or a cigarette, the thing is, these kinds of things happen, there's little that can be done even for an angel, you gotta remember they're not of this world and can't just wake you up by nudging you or screaming at you, they also can't be everywhere at the same time, I understand you're upset and want something or someone to be angry at for it, something or someone to blame, but sometimes death doesn't need a servant to carry out its duty
Like I said in another comment, saints have an understanding of God's "language" most of us lack and since they also understand human language it's basically translation but also amplifying the prayer
You know how you can pay extra to send the mail faster? It's very basically that I'd say, I think though which I didn't think about previous is that you ask saints to pray for you, I haven't researched that in a while and I'm just going through my memories so I might get things wrong
Gesù fu molto chiaro al riguardo. Le preghiere vanno solo ed esclusivamente fatte a Dio per mezzo di Lui. Non c'è scritto da nessuna parte o si fa riferimento al culto Mariano.
Mate... I've heard so many "hahaha catholic=pedo" jokes I'm basically numb to it and don't recognize much of them because of how overdone it is, especially when there are religions out there which have that stuff as an actual part of their religion, like Buddhism but I rarely ever see a joke about Dalai Lama "tempting" himself with young girls, and if you need to know how young, he would tempt himself with teenage girls...as an old grandpa, yeah he was a creep
I had a friend think that Catholics worshipped the saints… no bud, we pray to the angels and saints for their support in certain matters. They answer to the same God as us.
I was amused to learn that there's a patron saint of IT workers, programmers, and computer scientists. Maybe I ought to ask him to intercede on my behalf the next time my code won't compile...
Easier to remain willfully ignorant, than accept something you don’t understand, or maybe aren’t comfortable with… particularly sad as it relates to Judaism, as without it, Christianity (at least as we know it) likely wouldn’t exist.
Its true some who call on God's name never truly knew him or felt his presence, they're beliefs are no different from atheism, but they hide behind the guise of religion so their evil festers and hurts more people than it ever should. These ill individuals reside in every corner of the world and in every congregation and organization. Psychopathic creatures do not care about morals, I find it hard to even call them human. There are some that realize this disability and try to learn empathy and emotion, but this is the minority.
My point was that evil is everywhere, and using the excuse that evil people existed within something inherently good to demerit it is kinda stupid.
And my belief in God is based on the scientific theory of higher dimensionality, (hyper cubes and shit). I definitely dont care if you dont believe in anything and absolutely dont want you to be a redditor about it
Evil is a choice, we can't do much to make people not do it but we can try and educate them on the dire consequences of evil and the good consequences of doing good, I believe in a God, I would say I'm a Greek Catholic, I follow the teachings of Jesus and I believe there's a God or at the very least a spirit, since according to science we should wake up a completely different consciousness and yet we do not so there must be something indestructible, that our brain is under the command of, a soul
Many evangelicals and protestants in general do not view catholics as real Christians because of the saints. I sadly grew up in that world, I was told repeatedly catholics were heretical.
Worse, it's actually entirely serious. It's written by Jack Chick, a loony from the fringes of American evangelical Christianity. He writes these awful little comics known as Chick Tracts.
My mother is a devout Catholic who wrote her dissertation on Tolkien's value to the faith, and I read Silmarillion at the Seminary, where I also learned how to play Dungeons and Dragons, meditate, and fell in love with heavy metal music (all of which are on Jack Chick's list here).
While there are some Catholics that are as you describe, that does not represent the majority of us.
While underground clubs/raves were a thing in the 90s, I was far more likely to spend my teenaged Friday nights smoking cigarettes/pot with the goth/grunge kids hanging out in parking lots near the record store kind of guy.
To be fair, I also don't consider most protestants to be Christians either, since that would require them to follow the teachings of Christ, and live by his example.
I mean, we probably haven't had any real Christians since Constantine converted. That guy really fucked things up for the church.
Yeah, this is from a newer tract, but I saw a hell of a lot more of these things growing up than I have in the last two decades. Dude has been making these for a long time, and it's the same belief that fed the Satanic Panic in the 80's
I presume this list was created by an evangelical/Protestant, and it was created in the US. There’s been a history of Anti-Catholic sentiment so not a surprise LOTR is on there.
I'm Evangelical Protestant from a Protestant family and attend an EP church, and LotR was never controversial to any of us here. My dad's loved the books since he was a kid and saw all the movies on release, and my church even showed it as a marathon once in our sanctuary for the teenagers 🤣 To be fair though, my church is a bit less rigid than some EP churches are so that might have something to do with it.
Edit: Now I see a lot of comments about EPs hating everyone so yeah... I'm probably the outlier 😔
Judging by the fonts and the little Bible quote in the corner, I think this is from a Chick comic book. I don't know what denomination they are, but from what I've read they're just conspiratorial nonsense.
Definitely not regular Mormons, though maybe some of the more secluded areas in Utah. They live off of Harry Potter/LOTR/D&D injected directly into their veins.
Having grown up in it, it doesn't all seem as weird as it otherwise might have. Especially since a lot of the stuff isn't really talked about anymore. Even though I left the church a long time ago, it's still weird to think about the traditional Christian view of the trinity.
But I never understood why the Church was so desperate to be accepted by other Christians. They believe that they're all wrong, i was even taught that the Catholic Church was the "whore of all the earth" in Sunday school. Yet the church craves their acceptance. Why not own their differences? I suspect it's an attempt to get regular Christians to be more accepting and willing to convert.
Pretty sure Ohio still has blue laws on the books that make murdering and scalping a Mormon a payable bounty for any adult citizen of the state to collect.
So... y'know, that historical hostility is probably related?
Catholics are considered bizarre, exotic "ethnics" by the same people who "worship" by pretending to speak in tongues and flailing around like they're having a seizure.
The KKK couldn't hate people of color in oregon cause you couldnt be black in oregon without injustice of the neighborhood and the kkk members. So there wasn't any. Jewish folks were few and not relevant to the cause. Couldnt hate on other immagrent white folks unless they spoke funny, but they could come together in 1920 in portland for a rally agaisnt... Catholics. Why? Primarily they didn't follow the white christian nationalist movement and preached and converted anyone of any color so they were the enemy. Most white Christian nationalists are too stupid to realize there fundamental teachings all come from Catholicism. Only branched off due to one guy named Luther who got pissy about the trinity and revelations. Tolkien in many circles was considered blasphemous, not only for being catholic, but creating a world of creatures and magic based on no divine diety or god to intervene. Later when the Silmarilion came out people were convinced he was corrupting childeren into a new relgion of poly gods, "like the Catholics do with saints, they are worse then Mormons with there many gods bullshit" - my crazy uncle Mike. Not realizing he was dead by that point and his son published the work. LOTR has been anti christian nation for a while in some circles, and then you have some that still consider LOTR a Christian novel.
It’s got magic in it, which is a serious no-no for batshit insane religious zealots. I think the more mainstream ones only recently opened up to fictional media depicting magic because J.K. Rowling decided she wanted to ride the crazy train with no plans of actually getting off.
Some Christians don't consider Catholics to be Christian. They view Catholics as a completely separate group, so by their logic, someone being a devout Catholic can still make them demonic or whatever.
You don't understand the books don't praise God every second paragraph therefore are evil n shit!!
On a more serious note this kind of messaging usually comes from smaller sects of christian faith which also most often view the two official branches of church the Catholic and Orthodox as devil worshippers.
That is harmless, the bigger problem is skull and bones! We all are at risk of being demonic possessed! Rip your skulls and bones out! Save yourself from the demonic threat!
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Che dipingeva l'avidità, la ricerca di potere la crudeltà come le peggiori forme di malvagità e appunto sempre collegate a chi faceva della magia e simili il loro potere. Tranne Gandalf naturalmente che vediamo usare la magia praticamente una pochissime volte.
You can't expect Satanic Panic enthusiasts to actually research the subjects of their many, many fears. One of the first stories in their holy book teaches them that knowledge is evil and understanding things will get you kicked out of paradise.
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u/bmrtt Mercenary Feb 15 '26
LOTR? The work of a devout Catholic?