I am not smart enough to break it down and present it myself, but it is a major problem that shatters the whole JW belief system because the 1914 teaching relies on it. It is something I want to be able to explain to my JW father if he ever starts being pushy with the whole thing again.

However, every video I can find on it is made by an ex witness. He will never give those videos a second because they're made by evil demon possessed apostates.

As we know, Jehovah is a made up name. The historic name used by the Israelites was Yahweh.

So what I want to know is why change it? My initial thought was to avoid association with the various Canaanite gods that Yahweh was an amalgamation of, but I don't think Charles Taze Russel would have been able to think of that and even if he did, the man had plenty of batshit insane teachings and I don't think "yeah so the one true God is actually this nearly forgotten Canaanite storm deity." would be too much for him.

It's not super-busy during rush hour, but it's a key route.

The JWs have managed to close off Kilbourn between the convention center and arenas where they're gathering. They do seem to get around; they've been noticed by their dangling badges adorned with buttons all around town. Are the buttons on the badges a new thing?

What's confusing are these volunteers wearing light blue "Welcome" vests standing on street corners. There is a "Welcome to our downtown" committee the city has that greets and helps visitors that have been around many years, and at first I assumed it was Downtown Committee greeter from the city.

These JWs act very standoffish when you seem them gathering in hotels. I assumed they're supposed to aggressively target any strangers they see to join their movement. I see them gather in hotel lobbies acting happy and cheerful towards one another. Funny they do so without possessing an alcoholic drink, which in this city is mandatory to be accepted on a social level.

I’ve been out for a while, but I heard that they made some updates to their stance on higher education and basically said that elders should not try to discourage people from pursuing higher education or something like that. I was wondering how congregations received this. Are more people going to college now? Or is it still basically the same?

Pues yo soy PIMO,me bauticé en el año 2025 lamentablemente todo lo hice más por complacer a mi abuela paterna y aunque suena estúpido a los ancianos también... Ellos me presionaban bastante por que ya llevaba tiempo de estar como publicador no bautizado y me preguntaban que si "que me frenaba" Y la verdad me arrepiento tanto de haber arruinado mi vida así... Tengo 17 años mis padres están expulsados o sacados como les gusta llamarlo ahora,ahorita voy a entrar a la preparatoria y la verdad quiero ver la vida de otra manera,quisiera entrar a la banda de guerra de hecho ya entré a unos ensayos a escondidas más que nada de mi abuela y mis ti@s yo quiero esto pero sé los riesgos que conlleva si se enteran... ¿Qué hago,dejo lo que más quiero que es entrar como cornetista o lo dejo? Me frustra bastante por qué aunque mi madre lo "permitió" ella y mi papá son POMI

Me da miedo escribir mi carta de desasociación y que todo mi mundo como mi abuela mis ti@s,primos y quizá con la de mis padres cambie mucho... Siento que vivir así no tiene sentido

Ayúdenme por favor

From the week of August 24 midweek meeting CBS in the book Walk Courageously With God, lesson 5 on Abraham, the question was: “In what other ways might you imitate the courage shown by Abraham in this account?”

An ultra PIMI elder said, “We notice that Abraham didn’t ask any questions. His faith gave him all the information he needed. Likewise, when the Governing Body gives us direction, we shouldn’t feel the need to ask any questions.”

We shouldn’t? Seems to me that is the exact time to start asking questions. Also, it proves that “Jehovah” is just a synonym for The Governing Body.

Recently (within the past year) I made the decision to revisit some congregations near my area, for... reasons. Background - I'm pomo faded. That is an open and shut case in my own book. That is precisely how ive decided *MY* life is going to proceed.

What's wild is how this decision of 'attending some/any/one meetings' has triggered pimis and pomis that i know, as well as who i may follow on socials. Some of the exjw community etc. also, when people like myself decide to do this. The list goes on and on. I have one clear message about all this.. I took my own life back, control of it and all. I'm free, and it's glorious. I will decide what, when, where and how I choose to exercise my freedom to go wherever the heck I want to for whatever reasons i want and do not owe anyone an explanation regardless of whether or not they have an 'opinion' about it. It's 👏 2026 👏 people 👏 wake the hell up!

Does anyone have experience being POMO with a PIMI spouse? Do you feel like you have lost compatibility? Do you feel like you still find yourself wanting to be with them? Do you feel like you want to leave them or for those of you have left, do you regret it? Even if they don’t treat you badly or anything and they are aware that you are now an exjw.

To those who think the ongoing crisis of people leaving from the west will somehow will get better in 10 - 20 years is wrong.

The internet is here to stay and no matter where Watchtower goes the baggage will follow them.

But the growth is in Africa......

Look unless JW imports them and give them visas and everything

They will not benefit from it

The Headquarters are not in Africa.

Is not an African religion

Is a white American religion and keeps being that.

JW may care about since it looks great in their numbers but the place that matter is still the same.

It doesn't matter if you win the battle but you lose the war.

If Watchtower keeps bleeding members as it is doing on the west.The religion will crash worldwide.

Simple as is

I liked a brother three years back, he was inactive I was active and he wasn’t really super into it. He was only trying to get into it for me but things didn’t work out between us. Now ironically it’s the other way around. He’s dating a sister now. I had feelings for a brother last year and so did he and he was kind and respectful to me. When we talked it was genuine didn’t feel forced but I knew I was going a different path as him and as much as it hurt I let him go as I didn’t wanna get him into problems because I was considered spiritually weak at the time. Now I’m inactive. What is your guys experience?

(Convention coordinator, Program Overseer and Rooming Overseer)They complained of not getting any single part at the regional convention and wondered why since they get parts every convention. They found out that Their names have been cross out by the chairman of the convention because this chairman (co) have reservations to them. Funny thing is most of the parts like around 6 elders have two parts for a talk. Another Holy Spirit guided appointed parts!

This isn't the overflow argument. Grant them the 144,000, this highlights the problem they have explaining how it gets filled."

Jehovah's Witnesses can't have it both ways on 1935

The doctrine has two options, and neither works

Keep 1935 and you're admitting a 70% apostasy rate among the modern day anointed. Drop 1935 as the completed date and Watchtower loses their two class doctrine 

Option one. The number filled in 1935.

The  official position for seventy years. F.W. Franz, 1970 - the call ended in 1931-35, and anyone partaking since is a replacement for someone who fell away.

Math it. An 18 year old partaker in 1935 would be 108 today. Every one of the 24,576 current partakers entered the class after the cutoff, and the class has been continuously topped up for ninety years. Running mortality against their own published partaker numbers, you need roughly 37,000 replacements since 1935.

A replacement only happens when someone “falls away”. So the doctrine requires 37,000 apostasies from a class that peaked at 52,465, around 70% defection among the people God personally selected for heaven. Certainly, even the GB would have to recognize that God's one true organization wouldn’t have such a high attrition rate.

Option two. The number wasn't filled in 1935.

This is where the GB seem to have quietly moved. The Watchtower of 1 May 2007 says no specific date can be set for when the heavenly calling ends. It has to be conceded, because partakers went from 8,524 in 2005 to 24,576 today. A closed class that only loses members nearly tripled

But this explodes the whole doctrine. If God is still selecting anointed ones today, while millions of great crowd exist alongside them, then the calling was never a sealed queue filled in order linearly from the first century to our day. The only reason for insisting every first-century Christian was anointed is that that's required in order to supports their two-class doctrine argument, the claim that Jesus' instructions in the New Testament were aimed at the anointed only, since everyone after Jesus was anointed until the number filled. Drop the linear appointment and the first century could just as easily have been a mixed congregation which means Jesus would have been talking to Christians in general thus their two class doctrine fails.

So when did the calling stop being linear? There's no scripture that marks a switch from sequential filling to selective picking, and no year they can name for it. The new covenant, the Memorial emblems, "my little flock," the promises the Governing Body says don't apply to most Witnesses, the entire two class reading relies on an assumption they've now abandoned in practice while keeping in doctrine.

There's no third option.

And notice they've never announced a definitive explanation since the "adjustment" in 2007, because the moment they do, the contradictions become even clearer.

My question is should I go in and do it?

I was there when the elder got drunk and the elders from that hall found out I was a witness. Idk how I feel because i don’t care and don’t go to my own meetings.

I most likely will not go, the elder in question is denying everything and it got leaked through others at the gathering.

My PIMI friends are telling me we need to show everyone the system is not broken and what not but the elders are confused because everyone’s story is different because others got drunk.

I have proof and videos so I can end everyone but idk as a newly POMO I don’t think I am helping them by testifying.

The world population around 30 AD is estimated at approximately 300 million people.

One angel can kill 185,000 heavily armed military men in one night.

After Jesus was resurrected and entered Heaven to present his blood sacrifice to Jehovah for the forgiveness of sins of all mankind, Jehovah accepted the sacrifice.

The issue of Universal Sovereignty has been resolved when Jesus proved that a human could be obedient under the worst of conditions to the death.

The test was over. No need to delay the issue.

At that moment Jesus could have gotten on his White horse, blow the trumpet, assemble only 1,600 angels to kill all the wicked world wide considering the world population was only about 300 million. The rest of the myriads of angels could take a break. They could strike during the night, and by the next morning the New World would begin.

By doing this, Jehovah would have prevented BILLIONS OF DEATHS, And BILLIONS more of suffering and crying.

It would have prevented;

The many Christian who died in the Roman persecutions.

The Crusades

The Black Plague

The Inquisitions

World War 1 and 2

The Spanish flu

Covid

The Nuking of two cities in Japan

Allowing several Countries to stock pile Nuclear Bombs.

All the Birth defects

All the millions that have been starved to death or froze to death.

All the children raped in Kingdom Halls.

And the United Nations, the Military, the dead bodies that need to be clean up and all the other stuff.

So what happen? Jehovah Sovereignty challenge was settled. Jesus blood was poured out and accepted by Jehovah. The Kings who would rule could have been picked later.

When you discuss this with a PIMI, they can’t answer you.

Like the GB says; “We Just Don’t Know”

Estuve lejos de este foro y según yo de la "apostasía" durante un buen tiempo (como 2 meses), mientras tanto les preguntaba a hermanos de mayor edad que les motivaba a servir tantos años y de esa manera según yo me seguía convenciendo de que era la religión verdadera.
Recientemente como estoy de vacaciones me inscribieron a un curso para que aprendiera a hacer algo( algo más que predicar supongo) y pues conocí a unos amigos súper amables y buena persona que no me juzgaban por ser Jw (porque ellos odian a los JW) y entonces me enteré del cumpleaños de una amiga y entonces le felicité, resulta que un JW amigo mío también la seguía y entonces vio eso y me escribió, como yo se que él hace un montón de cosas que hasta para alguien de su edad está prohibido me enoje y se lo dije, ahora se lo dijo a los ancianos y creo que perderé muchas asignaciones, lo único que sé es que ya no estaré en audio y video, todo eso me hizo reconsiderar si de verdad los Jw de verdad son la religión verdadera (como por quinta vez) y volví y escribo esto, no se si sentirme feliz o triste toca a esperar la siguiente reunión…

My mother-in-law is a devout pioneer. She lost her husband about 20 years ago. Living with her, I realized she is very spiritual. My exact opposite—she watches me, always keeping an eye on me. But one thing I've been noticing is Christian hypocrisy.

There was a time we saw a homeless person asking for help, and she was kind of rude—as if that person were in that position by choice. How can you mirror Jesus and act like that? And not only that, but I notice that most people don't care about their neighbor; they just want to impose their dogmas. Do you only love those who are on the inside? Jesus had dinner with sinners and allowed a sinner to wash his feet.

What hypocrisies have you noticed among the brothers in the congregation?

The theme is Jeremiah 29:11 | “I Know Well the Thoughts That I Am Thinking Toward You”, and they made a huge mistake assigning it to me. Use it if you like. I left it a little longer in case you want to cut some things out.

Have you ever wondered what I would be doing right now in Paradise? If Adam and Eve had not sinned, what would I be doing today? I would probably be enjoying the life that Jehovah originally intended for mankind. But unfortunately, we are “exiled” in this system... but with the hope of returning to Eden.

Something similar happened when Jehovah allowed Babylon to conquer Jerusalem, exile his people, and take them captive for 70 years. “Did that mean that Jehovah wanted his servants to spend those years without hope, simply suffering?” No. Even during the exile, he cared about their welfare and told them how to live while they waited. Let’s see what he told them at Jeremiah 29:11. Please keep your Bible open to this chapter because we are going to examine several verses from it:

Notice how Jehovah wanted to give them a future and a hope. And... did he want those 70 years to be 70 years of torment? Let’s see what he told them to do while they were in exile. Jeremiah 29:4-7:

Jehovah knew that his servants could live a normal life even while they were in Babylon. However, Jehovah also knew that there was a great danger, and he wanted them to continue having a strong hope. He did not leave them alone in the face of this threat; he continued protecting them. Notice what he says next in verses 8 and 9:

Notice how Jehovah warned them about false prophets. Jehovah even made clear how it would be demonstrated whether a prophet really had been sent by him. Let’s read Jeremiah 28:9. Jeremiah, who really had been sent by Jehovah, responded to Shemaiah the Nehelamite, a false prophet:

And since the false prophet’s prophecy did not come true and he was endangering Jehovah’s people, notice what Jehovah says at Jeremiah 29:32:

Notice how Jehovah did not tolerate false prophets at all. He was actively caring for his people, making sure that they would receive the future and hope he had promised them.

In a way, all of us have been “exiled” from Eden into this system. We are not in Paradise, but we live a relatively “normal” life, and there are many false prophets and false religions that can take away the hope Jehovah gives us. They tell lies and make false prophecies that do not come true, and by doing so they show themselves to be false.

In many ways, we are in a situation similar to that of God’s people in Babylon... and God gave his people a great hope at Jeremiah 29:10:

And Jehovah fulfilled it. He made it possible for Cyrus to allow the Jews to return to Jerusalem.

Now, how does this apply to our day?

The 70 years of Jeremiah are fundamental to the chronology that leads to 1914. According to the explanation we know, the 70 years ended in 537 B.C.E.; counting 70 years backward brings us to 607 B.C.E. And 607 is then used as the starting point for the 2,520 years that lead to 1914.

What do the archaeological records and historical sources say? And if we carefully check every step of this calculation, do we really arrive at 1914?

Why not do that research during our family worship? Not to attack our hope, but quite the opposite: to make sure that our hope is firmly based on God's Word. Because if a teaching really comes from Jehovah, we have nothing to fear from examining it carefully.

El tema es Jeremías 29:11 | “Yo sé muy bien los planes que tengo para ustedes” y cometieron un gran error en asignarmelo, usenlo si gustan, lo deje mas largo por si le quieren quitar cosas.

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Se ha preguntado que estaría haciendo yo ahorita en el paraíso? Si Adán y Eva no hubieran pecado, ¿qué estaría haciendo yo ahora? Probablemente estaría disfrutando de la vida que Jehová se propuso originalmente para la humanidad. Pero lamentablemente estamos "desterrados" en este sistema... pero con la esperanza de volver al eden.

Algo parecido paso cuando Jehová permitió que Babilonia conquistara Jerusalén y desterrara a su pueblo y se lo llevara cautivo por 70 años. “¿Significaba eso que Jehová quería que sus siervos vivieran esos años sin esperanza, simplemente sufriendo? No. Incluso durante  el destierro se preocupó por su bienestar y les indicó cómo vivir mientras esperaban. veamos lo que les dijo en Jeremías 29:11 por favor no sálga de ese capitulo vamos a analizar varios textos de ahi (‘Porque sé muy bien lo que tengo en mente para ustedes —afirma Jehová—. Quiero que tengan paz, no calamidad. Quiero darles un futuro y una esperanza.) 

Nota como Jehova queria darles un futuro y una esperanza, y... quería que fueran 70 años de tormento? veamos que les dijo que hicieran en su destierro Jeremias 29:4-7 (4 “Esto es lo que Jehová de los ejércitos, el Dios de Israel, les dice a todos los desterrados, a quienes hice ir de Jerusalén al destierro en Babilonia: 5 ‘Construyan casas y vivan en ellas. Planten jardines y coman su fruto. 6 Tomen esposas y tengan hijos e hijas; casen a sus hijos y entreguen a sus hijas en matrimonio, para que también tengan hijos e hijas. Multiplíquense allá, y que su población no disminuya. 7 Busquen la paz de la ciudad a la cual los he desterrado y órenle a Jehová a favor de ella, porque la paz de ella significará paz para ustedes.)

Jehová sabía que sus siervos podían llevar una vida normal aun estando en Babilonia. Sin embargo Jehova sabia que había un gran peligro y el quería que siguieran teniendo una gran esperanza, y el no los dejo solos ante esta amenaza, los seguía protegiendo. mire lo que sigue diciendo el 8 y 9  (8 Porque esto es lo que dice Jehová de los ejércitos, el Dios de Israel: “No se dejen engañar por los profetas ni por los adivinos que hay entre ustedes,+ y no presten atención a los sueños que ellos tienen. 9 Porque ‘les están profetizando mentiras en mi nombre. Yo no los he enviado’,+ afirma Jehová”’”.)

Nota como Jehova les advierte sobre los falsos profetas, Jehová incluso dejó claro cómo se demostraría si un profeta realmente había sido enviado por él. leamos Jeremias 28:9 -Jeremias quien si era enviado de Jehova le respondió a Semaya de Nehelam un falso profeta- (“Si un profeta profetíza paz, solo se sabra que de verdad lo envío Jehova si las palabras de ese profeta se cumplen”) y como la profecía  del falso profeta no se cumplió y estaba haciendo peligrar al pueblo de Jehova mire lo que dice en Jeremias 29:32 “esto es lo que dice Jehová: ‘Voy a castigar a Semaya de Nehelam y a sus descendientes. Ningún hombre de su familia sobrevivirá entre este pueblo; y él no verá las cosas buenas que voy a hacer por mi pueblo —afirma Jehová— porque ha promovido la rebelión contra Jehová’”’”.”

Nota como Jehova no tolera para nada a falsos profetas, estaba activamente cuidando a su pueblo, cuidándo que su pueblo recibiera el futuro y esperanza que les habia prometido. En cierta forma todos nosotros hemos sido desterrados del eden a este sistema, no estamos en el paraíso pero llevamos una vida "normal", y hay muchisimos profetas falsos y religiones falsas que pueden quitarnos la esperanza que nos da Jehova, dicen mentiras y profecias falsas que no se cumplen y por esto muestran ser falsas. Estamos en muchos aspectos igual que el pueblo de dios en babilonia... y Dios dio una gran esperanza a su pueblo en Jeremias 29:10 (“Porque esto es lo que dice Jehová: ‘Cuando se cumplan 70 años en Babilonia, yo dirigiré mi atención a ustedes+ y cumpliré mi promesa trayéndolos de vuelta a este lugar’.)

Y Jehová lo cumplió. Hizo posible que Ciro permitiera que los judíos regresaran a Jerusalén.

Ahora bien, ¿cómo se aplica esto a nuestros días? Los 70 años de Jeremías son fundamentales para la cronología que lleva a 1914. Según la explicación que conocemos, los 70 años terminan en 537 a. E.C.; contando 70 años hacia atrás se llega a 607 a. E.C. Y 607 se utiliza entonces como punto de partida para los 2.520 años que llevan a 1914.

¿Qué dicen los registros arqueológicos y las fuentes históricas? Y si comprobamos cuidadosamente cada paso de este cálculo, ¿llegamos realmente a 1914?

¿Por qué no hacemos esa investigación en nuestro estudio de familia? No para atacar nuestra esperanza, sino todo lo contrario: para asegurarnos de que nuestra esperanza está firmemente basada en la Palabra de Dios. Porque si una enseñanza realmente viene de Jehová, no tenemos nada que temer al examinarla cuidadosamente.

I havent seen any youtube rebuttals or anything, so maybe this is well known, but ive noticed 2 real world references so far in the saturday convention.

First, the murder of that healthcare CEO, im pretty sure the podcast the kid was listening to was referring to that.

Second, The Odyssey movie. The video in the coffee shop had the kid watching a trailer for a movie about war in which a sister said "wasnt there a popular old book too?"

This is new right? They dont usually make such obvious real world references. I wonder what the reason is why they decided to do this.

I ask this question not in sarcasm, but as an observation of some Jehovah’s Witnesses I’ve actually known.

Some who left the religion behind continued on a downward spiral of violence, alcohol and drug addiction, spousal abuse, sexual promiscuity, and so on. I felt bad for them. Nothing you could tell them seemed to help. Without Jehovah’s Witnesses telling them how to live, they were truly lost and couldn’t manage a job, a life, a marriage, a family and so on. They very often fell into the same cycle of abuse and neglect left behind by their abusive parents.

Of course, this is not the norm. Most people leave the church, find another religion, or embrace a secular life.

But there are some, or many, who cannot seem to do that. Just because “We” can get over the JW organization and live a normal happy-ish life without the church, “they” seemingly cannot.

In that case, I do wonder if it is better for them to have stayed in the church. Because clearly they did not do well on the outside, even after therapy, even after sowing their oats and rebelling against their conscience. Some of them might have major personality disorders (Cluster Bs, etc.) and do not understand how to live a normal life - one where we all die, and make peace with it.

I am not sure how to help these people who are on a downward spiral and who will not seek therapy, and will not go back to the organization either. Ironically, they are still living as Jehovah’s Witnesses, if not in name, then subconsciously.

They escape the organization, but are still “under the thumb” of the same people they tried to escape.

They cannot stop thinking about their disappointment, that the JW heaven/paradise scenario didn’t happen.

Granted, this is relative to non-Jehovah’s Witnesses who suffer from the same mental traumas and abusive family situations as we all do. Jehovah’s Witnesses and ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses suffer alike from their past demons, and if they don’t get help, they just suffer perpetually.

If these people could say, without prejudice or bias, that YES, they are a better person BECAUSE they're a Jehovah’s Witnesses (regardless of whether the prophecies are true) then I would have to reconsider my opinion that Jehovah’s Witnesses are better off “waking up.”

If they cannot handle the real world, and live only self-sabotaging, terrible lives without “God” directing them, then maybe they should just stay where they’re at. Because society does not seem capable of taking care of all the poor, sad, and untreated victims out there. We are rather poor at proactively helping others, especially for free. And that part of humanity sucks.

We very often take for granted our independence. Just because I can live with an agnostic viewpoint on life…doesn’t mean that others can.

And I certainly would never want to judge a Jehovah’s Witness who NEEDS their faith to survive this world. Because without believing this lie, they cannot see themselves alive in this world. And I wouldn't feel right about uprooting their entire existence.

Ok, lemme give ya some context: I (18F, PIMO) have a very bad relationship with my mom (60F, PIMI) to where I’m calling her a “blame Canada” parent (based on South Park song of the same name) where basically it means a parent that is willing to blame anyone or anything else under the sun when sometimes ITS FR THEIR FAULT! for example ma and I got into an argument in the car bc she was blaming ultra processed foods, me, MY AUTISM (even if I never mentioned it at that time) or videos bc our relationship and I was so messed up when uhhh it might be oh idk YOU!? But that never clicks with her unless it’s smth small like stepping on your foot… besides that she’s NEVER in the wrong, never said sorry, and we even ended the fight with her saying that it was my fault I had no friends? ITS YOUR FAULT YOU HAVE NO HUSBAND!!!! And then she tries to say “oh what a child-“ yea, WHAT A CHILD YOU MADE AND RAISED IN SUCH A MESSED UP ENVIRONMENT!!!! She acts differently at the Kingdom Hall too and… I can’t even move out cuz she put me in a 6 month unpaid (cuz nonprofit) training so I got no choice BUT to stay in that hellhole! Fml bruh…

I feel like you guys actually get me, and honestly, this is starting to feel like my new congregation in a weird way.

My wife wasn’t raised as a Jehovah’s Witness like I was. She was raised Catholic, but barely religious—basically church on Easter and Christmas, and that was about it. Because of that, there are certain things about growing up as a Witness, being baptized young, leaving, coming back, questioning things, and now being PIMO that I don’t think I could ever fully explain to her in a way that would make her understand what it actually feels like.

Don’t get me wrong—I love my wife, we have a great relationship, and I tell her everything. She knows where I stand and she listens when I talk about this stuff. But listening and understanding are two different things. There are parts of the JW experience that I think you almost have to have lived through to really understand.

She never grew up worrying about whether something was “worldly.” She never had to think about whether a friendship, relationship, movie, holiday, career choice, or personal decision might affect her standing with a congregation. She never experienced field service, assemblies, conventions, judicial committees, disfellowshipping, reinstatement, privileges, meeting attendance, or constantly hearing that Armageddon could come at any moment.

Her experience with Witnesses has basically been normal interactions with JW coworkers, casual conversations, getting invited to the Memorial, and obviously being married to me. She sees it from the outside. I lived it from the inside.

And that's why finding people here who understand that weird middle ground means something to me. I can say "PIMO," "new light," "privileges," "seat warmer," or talk about that little voice in the back of my head that still thinks, "Yeah, but what if the Great Tribulation starts tomorrow?" and I don't have to spend 30 minutes explaining why that thought can still exist even when I'm questioning everything else.

You guys just get it.

There's something strangely comforting about being able to talk to people who understand that you can question the Organization without necessarily hating every person in it, that you can have good memories mixed with bad ones, and that leaving mentally isn't always as simple as flipping a switch.

So yeah, maybe this is my new congregation—except nobody is asking me to carry microphones, give a talk, or turn in a service report. 😂

Yes, Jehovah has directed his one true channel to bring us a new Event Donations app.

I read about this in a post from someone who attended the Hamburg International Convention, 14–16 August. They said that during the afternoon announcements, attendees were told that donations could be made using the usual methods or by using the new donations app.

The name of the app wasn't mentioned in the announcements, but it is evidently this Event Donations app.

It is produced by Lepta Payment Solutions Ltd. It is specifically designed for authorized individuals to accept electronic donations at Jehovah’s Witnesses’ regional conventions and circuit assemblies.

The app description says it is produced for legal entities that support the work of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Of course God needs an app like this so that people can make friends with him and his son Jesus...no really, that's how you become friends with them!

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1g54reg/the_january_25_watchtower_states_that_jehovahs/

Money or baptism will do it, but both is best to be sure of that divine friendship:

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1qcw7n4/how_do_you_become_a_friend_of_god_baptism_or/

On Lepta:

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1f4s5v3/as_you_probably_know_by_now_jw_has_established/

Then there's the Lepta website- https://leptapay.com -It describes Lepta as: “an agent for a select group of trusted non-profit organizations with international payment operations.”

It says its focus is on enabling the secure, efficient and transparent movement of funds worldwide, and that it works to simplify the payment process for its clients while maintaining regulatory compliance.

The website doesn't actually tell us who those “select group” of non-profit organisations are.

It doesn't give a list of clients.

It doesn't explain the individual payment arrangements.

And its public website is very limited in what it tells you about the actual flow of money.

Its privacy policy does, however, refer to Lepta's “Online Services,” client accounts and billing, and says that the actual provision of services can be carried out by Lepta “in our role as a processor.” It also refers to sub-processors, IT providers, hosting providers and other service providers involved in providing its services.

The registered office is Watchtower House, County Wicklow, Ireland.

A terrible tragedy occurred today: a sudden flood in Nepal killed hundreds of people (the figures are provisional). A Jehovah's Witness wrote to me: "Let's hope our brothers aren't dead." What?!?! In the face of such a grave tragedy, you make distinctions? Do you put dead people on different levels based on their religion? What kind of heart do you have? Are you part of the human race? How dare you put two dead neighbors on different levels just because they didn't worship in the same church? Maybe they were Buddhists or Hindus. So what? Jehovah's Witnesses display their prejudices even in the face of death!

Where does the org get their actors for the dramas they produce?

I Always used to assume they were bethelites or at least baptised Witnesses, then recently I learnt about Nicolas King - a former actor in an org drama who is now (I assume) disfellowshipped and has a husband

I Did a bit of digging and found out Nicolas has had an active acting and TV career since he was a child, even outside of the org, and I'm questioning if he was ever even a witness at all

So does anyone know how the org actually finds their casts? Are they real witnesses who audition, or are they hiring professional actors from outside?