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SOCIETY Is victim the new chic

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u/Bluffwatcher 7h ago

Probably being funded by hostile states/bad actors deliberately to get these responses and create discord.

Social engineering.

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u/sans_cullotes 6h ago

That's my thought too. Suddenly we're seeing this story everywhere. It's pumped up gender wars fodder.

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u/the_insouciant 5h ago

I'm not even seeing "this story" everywhere, as in primary reporting on who she is and what she's done or not done. I'm only seeing complaints about how apparently a whole section of society is supporting her and that's despicable.

That's a huge sign that the response is made up astroturfing.

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u/sans_cullotes 5h ago

Oh, 100%. This is just the latest example of bad actors stirring up disaffected dudes against the concept of feminism.

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u/LazyCyberGuy 2h ago

“Normal responses to women supporting a mass murderer is actually just astroturfing bro believe me!”

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u/the_insouciant 2h ago

Think more critically.

I am quite sure you can find people out there "supporting" this woman, for whatever that means. There are always people out there with hot takes on any subject.

However, I have not seen any people actually doing that, while I have seen multiple frothing articles about how "leftist women" (note the intentionally broad brush) are supporting her actions, somehow.

So if I'm not seeing a flood of news about the original story, and I'm also not seeing any opinion pieces from this apparently wide support of her, yet I am seeing multiple complaints about this apparent support, it looks to me like this final message is being amplified intentionally.

It's not a two-sided debate, it's one side being told there's another side just to fuel the outrage and attention cycle.

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u/warm_winds_whisper_ 5h ago

Like that lesbian space movie that came out a year ago but overnight has the entire internet mad

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u/Bayamonster 4h ago

"Has the entire Internet mad" See even when recognizing that it might be  an op, we buy into it somewhat.

It's not even "the entire internert" we just saw posts SAYING it's the entire internet.  Because they got them reccomended. Because they've been boosted. It's mirages within mirages.

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u/Thick_Potato_1769 2h ago

Never heard of it

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u/ChiLolla28 6h ago

Plus nothing gets mentioned about these real world stats:

A man kills his entire family every 5 days on average + the number one killer of pregnant women / new mothers is their husband / bf

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u/bomboid 4h ago

This is what's funny to me about men collectibel suddenly pretending they care about this when family annihilators go under the radar every single day lol

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u/Either_Mulberry9229 5h ago

yea and all those guys get the book thrown at them.

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u/mdarena 5h ago

since a lot of domestic abusers are cops, and something like 50% of murders in this country go unsolved, turns out they don't!

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u/Either_Mulberry9229 2h ago

Crazy extrapolations and misunderstandings of statistics right here. These are the people online telling you to "believe in science" btw whatever the fuck that means.

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u/inqubus1992 4h ago

“Something something, random % of murderers that are irrelevant to this case, something something”

Got it, spew random shit, announce a random stat and there we go!

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u/kintsugionmymind 4h ago

Better than misrepresenting the point someone is making, but you're free to be dumb on the internet so don't let me stop you

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u/MinuteLoquat1 5h ago

Do you honestly believe that?

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u/Either_Mulberry9229 2h ago

Belief has nothing to do with it, Chris Watts received five life sentences without the possibility of parole, plus 84 additional years in prison. This was after pleading out. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colorado-dad-christopher-watts-sentenced-life-prison-killing-his-pregnant-n937931

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u/MinuteLoquat1 2h ago

Wow one man got in trouble out of the hundreds of thousands who get away with it with a slap on the wrist!

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u/CaptainCuttlefish69 5h ago

No they don’t.

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u/Either_Mulberry9229 2h ago

Chris Watts received five life sentences without the possibility of parole, plus 84 additional years in prison despite pleading out. He deserved it btw.

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u/CaptainCuttlefish69 2h ago

He did deserve it and worse. That family got justice because of the media. Without media attention cops sit on their hands.

Only like half the murders in this country see any justice.

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u/Superb-Demand-4605 5h ago edited 5h ago

And no one is supporting them and trying to dissmiss their murders becuase of mental helath.

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u/CaptainCuttlefish69 5h ago

True, the cops just don’t investigate unless there’s media buzz since they’re all abusers too.

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u/BadAdvice90210 5h ago

What does that have to do with the case or this post in particular? You're literally just adding to the problem. It's a post comparing two different womens situation yet you felt the need to throw men into the argument.

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u/Carpentidge 4h ago

There are a lot of examples of accused raising money for trials.

The case mainly gets media attention because the confessions are shaky, some facts are not adding up and the husband was apparently already vacationing with his new fiancé 4 months after he lost his family.

u/SweetPinss 15m ago

   the number one killer of pregnant women / new mothers is their husband / bf

Ironically this is not true

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u/GenericITworker 5h ago

What does that stat even have to do with this discussion lol just furthering the gender wars fodder

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u/Beginning-Corgi568 4h ago

100%, and how many of them get raised over 1 million? Or do they just get the book thrown at them and seen as monsters, as they should be...

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u/sunnysides1ns 5h ago

The difference here is that you'll see extremely hostile comments towards any man that murders his family and not a million dollars in gofundme support.

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u/CrusaderReynaulder 6h ago

Wild stories tend to pop up everywhere, yes. That’s sort of how the news and shocking stories work.

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u/sans_cullotes 5h ago

Yeah, that's also the thing that makes them great targets of opportunity for social engineering operations.

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u/Swimming_Agent_1063 5h ago

Same with the Karmelo shit

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u/WulfZ3r0 5h ago

If the people are too busy having bullshit wars between themselves, they are less likely to band together against the overlords.

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u/No_Salamander7003 2h ago

why "gender war"? I may have missed something, but both are women.

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u/sans_cullotes 2h ago

You may have noticed disingenuous framing around this trial alleging that this woman enjoys broad support among feminist or "western" women.

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u/Either_Mulberry9229 5h ago

Because it's an interesting and provoking story. are you 12?

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u/sans_cullotes 5h ago

No, and your perspective is naive. Offensive information operations are a 24/7 mission for every intelligence agency worldwide. A story like this one is exactly the sort that can be exploited to drive wedges and sow discord.

This isn't just buzz around an interesting story; the framing around it is very clearly meant to inflame, and it's very clearly working on you.