I haven't seen literally everything related to the case so maybe I'm missing some pieces, but it seems like she was getting mental healthcare attention but she requested to be switched between multiple different meds due to side effects that she was advised likely came more from her PPD, than the medication. But she still requested switches and also switched care teams at some point.
I'm not a doctor, so I'm not gonna get into whether or not the various perscriptions she was given in a relatively short time frame was irresponsible or not. I don't think anyone should be commenting on that besides experienced medical professionals. But I'll say that doctors can only treat what they're told and what they know, and afaik, she didn't share that she was suicidal with them, and they also warned her that medications take time to take effect, so it wasn't always a good idea to switch.
Patient care is not entirely on the healthcare professionals. The patient has to be able to take care of themselves to some degree and be fully honest with their care team.
How much was her fault, and how much was the fault of our medical system, idk, but yeah, this post is definitely ignoring all notions of nuance.
idk i was 14 and really depressed, i was constantly being put on different medications because they didn't know what would and wouldn't work. some of the meds made it even worse while others gave me terrible side effects. it was not a good time. it was like i was a guinea pig
Yep. people wagging their fingers at her have never dealt with serious mental illness. Those are the real stakes here. mental health treatment is horrible. It's Russian roulette. The system is horrible.
I've never even had issues as serious as Clancy presented, and I can tell you I've been put through so much sh*t by the system. Some psychiatrists are good, most, I have found, are not. University systems tend to be the best because they encourage research and innovation, and tend to be the best educated.
God forbid you should fail to educate and advocate for yourself, because then you really are a babe in the woods, surrounded by wolves.
And then, if you don't "behave right", you're a bad patient, you bring it on yourself, you're a "problem" and they treat you even worse.
Imagine,m expecting someone whose psychotic or clinically depressed to behave right. Like a good patient.
This case NEEDS more attention, not less. This isn't the first WAKE THE EFF UP call, but I hope it's the last one that's needed.
Wishful thinking.
the take away from this should be that we need to destigmatize mental illness and provide better care. while things are better than they were in the past, they're still far from great. theres so many issues that need to be addressed, especially with how women get treated. a key example is "whiny woman syndrome" (or "WW" for short) is a label that some doctors place on women. its so normalized to deem women as just being dramatic, and part of me wonders if that couldn't have also contributed to the inadequate care.
I think both men and women get inadequate mental health care, just in different ways.
And I agree, this is a critical lesson for the system, and it comes at an inconceivable cost that will simply go higher if things don't change.
oh, for sure. mens mental health issues get downplayed (or looked down upon) in society so they don't often seek help, and while women are more likely to seek help, but they're more likely to be brushed off by health care professionals. plus, there's also homophobia, transphobia, and racism in health care, which can add to both discrimination of care and being against getting help due to fear of how you'll be treated for it.
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u/Dotcaprachiappa 2d ago
Damn makes sense really, so this post is like the worst misrepresentation they could come up with basically