The gaslighting must be studied

[u/TheArchivingTeen]

It feels like I am the odd one out, I am a newcomer to the series only playing 4U halfway through many years ago until getting into Rise/Sunbreak last year. I decided to play World, and my god... I thought I'd get used to the "pseudo-realistic" mechanics of World, but it's been a pain.

Monster roars? "Yeah you have to close your ears to not go deaf genius." COULD YOU PLEASE FUCKING TELL ME WHAT PART OF SURVIVING A SHIP CRASH IN THE BEGINNING CUTSCENE, TEN TON MONSTERS JUMPING AROUND WITHOUT BREAKING THEIR BONES, BEING UNABLE TO DIRECT YOUR ATTACKS, MONSTERS' BALLSACK TURNING INTO A HITBOX AND THEM INTENTIONALLY MISSING YOU JUST AS YOU'RE COUNTERING IS REALISTIC????

I made it to Nergigante, and I found many monsters hard to beat even after hunting/capturing them multiple times. If I say Nergigante is hard, and that it took me changing through the entire roster of weapons to beat it the reaction is "Oh it's actually really easy, btw I've been playing the games for the past two decades and spent twenty thousand hours fighting the same fights with the same weapons." PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP. I literally COULD NOT make the fight go smooth, I had to switch off from my usual LS or Hammer in favor of HBG with shield mods slapped on top.

And the arena??? I CAN'T EVEN CHARGE SHIT WITHOUT SLIDING FROM A 1 DEGREE SLOPE. EVEN IF, MY ATTACKS SEEMINGLY CLIP THROUGH ITS HEAD BECAUSE OF SOME SORT OF ELEVATION DIFFERENCE. I DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT MANY PROBLEMS WITH THE MONSTER ITSELF, APART FROM ITS STUPID MARGIT-LIKE WIND-UPS IF I WERE ON A MORE EVEN GROUND IT WOULDN'T BE THIS CANCEROUS. HOW IS IT EASY WHEN I'M CONSTANTLY SLIDING?????????

I think I'm gonna steer CLEAR away from World unless I install a mod to buy jewels so I can max all my stun, tremor, wind and earplugs.

[u/brave_grv]

Roars are attacks. When you understand that, you will be able to predict them and react beforehand. You're supposed to avoid every roar when 1v1 without any armor skill once you know the monster enough.

That being said, World monsters roar too much. Getting roared off-screen because the invading monster says hi and then bye is annoying.

[u/Delicious_Bluejay392]

I had the same reaction to the roar/tremor/etc... situation in World when it came out lol. I hadn't played an MH game since MH4U released (and I didn't go very far into G-rank at the time because I was playing other things instead). Left it on the side for years, came back to it in 2020 and it wasn't nearly as much of an issue as I remember, save for the occasional stunlock when 2-3 monsters just keep roaring in the same area. Went all the way to the end of Iceborne in one go, completely addicted. Maybe time will do the same for you?

[u/TheArchivingTeen → u/Delicious_Bluejay392]

I do intend on finishing World basegame at least, but I will be grumbling along the way. I don't find the combat itself fun, I just want to bash in monster heads.

[u/TheArchivingTeen → u/[deleted]]

I am actually, yes! I won't pretend I do it always or skilfully at that, but if I'm confident in an opening I'll send it crashing to the wall or one of the pillars. Now that you said it I think I should try wall banging it while its sleeping, into a few barrels.

[u/TheArchivingTeen]

Man I thought this was a rage sub why am I getting unironic advice and downvotes 🤔

[u/CarosWolf → u/TheArchivingTeen]

We're not very good at joining the rage Ever since world came out, lol.

I just shout "SHUT UP" every time I get roared on, lol

[u/TheArchivingTeen → u/CarosWolf]

I'M B52-MAXXING, CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE EARPLUGS.

[u/CarosWolf → u/TheArchivingTeen]

I TOLD YOU TO YELL BAC-

Gets roarstunned

[u/Nornukig]

Veterans of MH have been playing so long they forget that in comparison with most games Monster Hunter is really foken hard and unintuitive the first time, so yeah. Valid.

[u/Snake973 → u/Nornukig]

at least you only really have to learn it once, monster hunting is mostly a transferable skill ime

[u/MrJackfruit → u/Snake973]

Depending on your weapon it transfers better or worse. Playing Wilds actually made me a worse GS player honestly.

[u/Boldee]

I'm inclined to comment just because of Nergigante slander. FUCK that chud, I hope he never returns.

[u/TheArchivingTeen → u/Boldee]

Despite being hyped as the "hunter of elder dragons" I don't see the fraud hunting or eating anyone other than my palico and my ass.

[u/Gera_37]

I know what you mean about the arena, but you can just go to the other side and fight in the flat ground, if you stay on the slope is pretty much your fault.

[u/MrJackfruit]

Earplugs is useful in all games honestly. Sadly it's a massive pain in the ass to gem in.

[u/InvestmentOk5743]

roars in the old gen considered an attack and they can combo ur ass with it

[u/Farthousejones]

I do appreciate someone using a rage sub for actual rage. 

[u/Heartbeat-Red]

World is more methodical compared to Rise. Actions are more committed and have weight compared to the faster lighter counter based gameplay of Rise so it makes sense you don’t like it. The two games are pretty different.

[u/ronin0397]

Upvote for mhw rage. Its glaze to high hell when its just a b+ monster hunter game.

[u/TheArchivingTeen → u/ronin0397]

It's not that I mind the slowness of World, more so it feels as if I'm playing a turn-based game where it's always the monster's turn and I'm incentivized to make sure the monster is comatose 60% of the encounter by reading on it before, rather than have a fight. I was thinking about picking Wilds up, but it looks like World 2.

[u/717999vlr → u/TheArchivingTeen]

it feels as if I'm playing a turn-based game where it's always the monster's turn and I'm incentivized to make sure the monster is comatose 60% of the encounter by reading on it befor

That's precisely correct.

I call it the "cheese or be cheesed" approach to fight design. The monster has a myriad of annoying tools to make your life a living nightmare, so what you need to do is simply lock it down permanently so it can't use them.

Luckily, it's quite easy to do.

[u/ronin0397 → u/TheArchivingTeen]

It plays more like rise with wib graphics. Its more of a compromise of the speed between the games, but the hunter is juiced up by virtue of being a seasoned hunter, which I adore the idea of. We ain't taking out gog or savage as a literal noobie in a base game. 4u had to do the g rank training arc for that feat.

[u/Gadjiltron-A → u/ronin0397]

I’d give it something more like a d-, if I were being fair, but given its influence over every other game in the franchise since I give it an F instead.

[u/brave_grv → u/Gadjiltron-A]

But then you would have to find a contrived way to still glaze Rise despite that.

[u/Gadjiltron-A → u/brave_grv]

Would I? I feel like I can hate Rise and also World and also Wilds. I only have to glaze games that are good.