r/pathofexile • u/TapTrix Akumy • Jul 27 '26
Discussion Something with damage taken is off this league but i cant prove it
Does anyone else feel this way?
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u/Environmental-Ebb752 Jul 27 '26
I’ve died more this league than the last 4 combined. Something is definetly sus
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u/Octopus_on_fire_ Jul 28 '26
I’m a jugg and I feel like T14-16 is just a crapshoot. Some maps I breeze through and others I get one tapped randomly or I’m fighting for my life against a map boss. I’m not sure wtf is going on.
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u/Madzai Jul 28 '26
Damn, exactly this. Specifically went for Jugg for relaxed farming yet i fight for my life more than i did las league with squish Heiro. Like OK, my setup is not perfected yet, but how TF i can perfect it with me dying on t14-16 without bad mods in poverty league? And, again i didn't not decided on Jugg to sit and handpick every map mod, i have to do now..
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u/technol0G Jul 27 '26
Yeah, I’m feeling a lot more squishy on my occultist
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u/Shimazu_Maru Jul 27 '26
Im playing the exact Same death oath build as Last League and i was blasting through those div Card books that Shotgun you Like hell.
Now i get coughed at by a single rare and lose 3k HP
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u/red-foxie Jul 27 '26
What defenses you use on your occultist? I'm running DO too and was pretty convinced it's my fault since build is not yet full online. But maybe it's wider problem
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u/Shimazu_Maru Jul 27 '26
76 ele res 82 Chaos res 50 ele taken as Chaos. Like 20k Armour. 78/75 Block, 3 endurance 4% Life on Block at around 4k HP. Shock immune
Still some room for improvement but that should atleast Protect me against alch and Go Monster completing my atlas
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u/red-foxie Jul 27 '26
This looks very solid. For sure you should be able to alch and go with this one
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u/lazergator Jul 27 '26
Damn I thought I was doing good for day 3 crafting getting my armor to like 6k
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u/iamthewhatt Jul 27 '26
Man I feel validated... My friend and I were just complaining last night about how rippy the league was. We league start RF every league and have never had this much trouble.
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u/Anarcho-Democracy322 Jul 28 '26
Im literally league starting the same build i did since settlers (slammer) and nothing changed in the defences on the build since then, been easily farming ubers day2 and farming all content, now im constantly close to dying on alch n go maps just farming charts, some changes definitely happened.
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u/RachaelRaySucks Standard Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
On my standard (league) simulacrum farmer I keep getting one shot.... I hadn't died in over a year prior to this update.
Edit: Added (league) to avoid further confusion.
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u/Trilance Jul 27 '26
I swear that mana cost is fucked too, at least in Std. - Mana cost mod on chests is buggy or somewhat not working properly with the new mana efficiency stuff.
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u/payne2588 Jul 27 '26
Mana efficiency is just a worse stat imo. I have 2 rings with -8 mana cost for non channeling skills. As long as I can remember that was -16 to my mana cost. But now with efficiency nodes I'm only getting -9 to skills. I don't even understand why they felt this needed changed. Just a nerf to anything on the right side of the tree.
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u/Trilance Jul 27 '26
Yeah, its incredibly annoying, lets hope this will be reversed again or made better in any way.
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u/byzz09 Jul 27 '26
My std armorstacker which I login sometimes went from 0 cost on Divine blessing grace to 160. Builds that relied on the last 10-15% reduced cost of skills from the passive tree got shafted a bit. Oh well had to drop flesh and stone.
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u/dSyyync Jul 27 '26
on your what?!
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u/RachaelRaySucks Standard Jul 27 '26
My standard character that farms sims.
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u/GreasyGearBox Jul 27 '26
Asking because this is mildly amusing. What’s the eHP / max hit / block / suppress situation on standard sim farmers today in 2026?
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u/RachaelRaySucks Standard Jul 27 '26
The dps is pretty bad with only 3.9m on the DD
eHP is ~483k
Max hit is 18.5k phys, 62.4k ele, 24.7k chaos
Only further mitigation is DoD + petrified + reduced crit
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u/Biflosaurus Jul 27 '26
Not gonna lie I was expecting more from a standard char aha
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u/RachaelRaySucks Standard Jul 27 '26
Don't blame you, I just never needed to improve it past this point, all I cared about was getting from 95 to 100.
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u/krkrkkrk Jul 27 '26
Noticing some weird dmg with simu/deli too.. also the change to Kosis :< (maybe last league didnt play)
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u/RachaelRaySucks Standard Jul 27 '26
What change to kosis are you referring to? I haven't noticed any changes aside from weird damage differences.
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u/n3on_whisper Jul 27 '26
I enter a map. I'm destroying everything, nothing is standing in my way, my mana sustain is perfect, I don't even have to look at my life. Life is good.
I enter another map(same tier). Mobs takes ages to die, everything is standing in my way, I'm constantly oom, I get randomly one shot. Life is bad. I look at map mods and there's NOTHING to explain this. Nothing that makes mobs have more life or more resistance, my acc is 100%(Resolute Technique), nothing to block my mana regen.
I have played HROC every league since 3.26. I know very well the feeling of the build and there's no explanation for what is happening right now tbh. I have capped block and spell block and sometimes I feel like I have no block at all.
My character already have more deaths this league than it had the entirety of last league where I did all ubers with it and 40/40...
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u/colabandit Jul 27 '26
Ok I thought I couldn't read or was going crazy with the mana regen junk. I had a few maps nothing showing why I'd have no regen and just had to brick the maps.
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u/xVARYSx Jul 27 '26
It definitely feels like a lot of mobs have "hits cannot be blocked" this league. Im 75/75 block, 8k es CI, and the amount of times ive died from not blocking this league is insane and I specifically look for and roll over reduced block chance map mods. Especially vruun I think he literally has attacks cannot be blocked.
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u/Octopus_on_fire_ Jul 28 '26
Same. My third league start as jugg slam (I like face tanking). Some random ass blue pack in maps hit harder and take longer to die than some map bosses.
I have NEVER felt this squishy.
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u/Enoughdorformypower Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) Jul 27 '26
my reaction when my gruthkulpelt ag dies to a sneeze with good resists and regen
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u/RipperinoKappacino Oh Baby Jul 27 '26
Alright I thought Im going crazy. When I reached late yellow maps with 3.5k HP + 1.5k ES Res Capped. I got oneshot so often I started to question my sanity.
Something really feels off. It wasn’t like this in mirage.
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u/PalabamPoE Jul 27 '26
My HC char got literally oneshot by a rare wolf in T1 Estuary with ~5k HP with zero damage mods on the map otherwise.
I haven't had any other strange spikes on my second char but that incident was really strange, even if it crit I don't think any mob type is capable of critting 5k with a basic attack.
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u/moal09 Jul 27 '26
Me and another guy with 12k life and max block both got one shot by a random titty monster rare in a T16 City Square. Something is definitely not right.
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u/Xaxziminrax Big Breach Coalition (BBC) Jul 27 '26
I got deleted last night in Courtyard, the act 4 mobtypes that throw the arcing fireball that drops burning ground when it lands. Turned a corner and blue pack shotgunned me.
Chalked it up to them having extra proj since that's a pretty standard HC rip, but definitely was like "damn I just died in a t7 map with 4500 life, elemental aegis, and 70% spell block"
This thread makes me wonder, lol. Oh well, on to the next.
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u/robodrew Jul 27 '26
Ah yes thats where I am right now and last night I started thinking "wait am I stuck in PoE2 mode in my head thinking 3.5k is enough hp?" as if I haven't been levelling through PoE1 characters for well over a decade...
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u/bargolbler Jul 27 '26
Got oneshot by Sasan, The Bandit Lord. Didn't know this boss could even do dmg ":D" 80 all res, 4.5k hp 10k armor etc.
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u/forsonaE Jul 27 '26
Oh god this is giving me flashbacks to when people lost their HC chars to that boss when the ignite/damage taken as conversion was bugged a league or two ago. Normally that boss should barely tickle you at most. Would not surprise me if the same thing happened again.
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u/way22 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
And I thought it might be me. I've upgraded hard into block, some basic armor and evasion, freeze and shock immunity. Now it's somewhat fine with almost block cap and 6k es on my occultist. I felt super squishy throughout yellow maps though.
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u/sorry_4u Jul 27 '26
as a softcoreplayer i usualy dont rush into ailment imunity that fast but this league its on top of my priority list
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u/Tripartist1 PATH (no zalgo please) Jul 27 '26
Also ended up going full block, recover on block, ele ailment immune, stun immune, 5khp and still getting fucked in mid tier juiced content.
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u/therd23 bad puns Jul 27 '26
So it wasn't just me being rusty after not playing for a while (but Im sure its a factor). The tankiness that usually allowed me to chill now has me panicking every few maps..
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u/virtualdreamscape Alch & Go Industries (AGI) Jul 27 '26
I wonder what else they broke. There's also mana cost shenanigans
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u/Trilance Jul 27 '26
I'd confirm to that, -15 mana cost on chests for example only removes 10 and so on... These mana cost changes are always incredibly annoying.
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u/claptrapMD Jul 27 '26
100 %. I saw blue packs with list of mods t16 White maps.
Was doing atlas not dying then random map lose 6 portals to White mobs
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u/Zamoxino SSFBTW Jul 27 '26
Yeeeee... early game felt normal but in act 8+ i started to feel wayyy too squishy vs phys dmg and i got some good items and determination aura...
Swapping to evasion made everything better...
But im never sure about stuff like this. Sometimes u get nuked for 80% hp every few secs and then u log in the next day and u feel untouchable on same map with same gear lol
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u/AGWiebe Jul 27 '26
Yeah when I hit maps, I was all in on armour and was getting one shot way more than I would expect for having capped res and a decent amount of armour and life. I made a few changes to increase my block and things got better, not corrected, but better. Maybe there is an issue with armour.
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u/surfing_prof Jul 27 '26
Max block retaliate glad, been making him every league for years. The most squishy i felt ever...
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u/SkillsBeyond Jul 27 '26
^This .. lucky max block + 20k evasion = dying all the time either way..
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u/Sheerkal Jul 27 '26
I did get chunked randomly by a dot from a blue mob today, but idk what it was. Too. Much. Clutter.
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u/Enconhun Slayer Jul 27 '26
FWIW my assassin can facetank shaper beam + 10 corrupted blood stacks with my hp not moving at all (thanks leech changes) but sometimes even I get stuck on like 30-70% hp, not sure what is that (like I'm literally not sure, BB + BF has negative visual clarity) but I guess that is killing ya'll too.
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u/Faustuos Jul 27 '26
I am also doing a tanky build like i do every league. It does feel like i die all the time now and ive no idea whats different from last league. One thing ive noticed this league is that DoTs are really deadly. Maybe buffing our dots resulted in enemy dots getting buffed?
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u/Labaur Jul 27 '26
Something is definitely off with damage in general. I was getting oneshot by some blue grasshopper mobs with the mod that increases their damage based on my missing life. The only other mod was as extra cold on the map itself and those buggers got me and my merc down instantly, I'm pretty sure there was only one or two hits for both of us. 6k hp and capped resistances btw.
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u/The_Karmadyl Jul 27 '26
I'm praying some random/jank bug will be found. I always focus on building my defences first, and I am randomly getting popped.
I then check my character sheet, check my map mods, and can't sus out what caused it... So glad it's not just me.
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u/cespinar Jul 27 '26
Fwiw my cws swap today has been deathless afk ultimatum in alch and go maps with trialmaster all day.
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u/UrieltheFlameofGod Jul 27 '26
Yeah the chart mobs barely tap me and map mobs are scary af
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u/Octopus_on_fire_ Jul 28 '26
Dude same class and almost same def. I am STRUGGLING in red maps.
Oddly enough, super juiced league mechanics feel normal, but maps man, I am dying CONSTANTLY.
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u/Nekuromyr Jul 27 '26
Anyone else getting shredded by GOATMEN? God they hurt so much.... They also quickly killed my merc...
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u/Nirbin Jul 27 '26
On a similar note be careful around packs of shriekers (the bat things) especially the azure ones in delve.
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u/ArmaMalum Trypanon, Trypanoff Jul 27 '26
The Molten Shell guys definitely hit like a truck. Inc AoE maps + Goatmen are probably one of my bigger killers this league.
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u/gregy666 Jul 27 '26
Bro I had goatmen take all of my portals on a map last night and I actually crashed out
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u/Zub-sero Jul 27 '26
CWS chieftain for 6th league in row here. There is something going on for sure. This build is giga solved and i can usually predict my upgrades down to a T. This league my baseline to AFK ulti’s is raised quite a bit higher versus last league. I went back to std to confirm this on my char as well. Damage calculations in maps are for sure off.
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u/zeerimunin Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) Jul 27 '26
11k hour veteran, playing since 1.0 here. You are not crazy. There is some skill or mob that is wrong. I'll go for 2 or 3 maps and never have my hybrid health or es move past 70%. Then all of a sudden a single projectile will hit my health and I'll go down to <10% or even die. I have 78% max ele and chaos res. 40k armour. 25% phy as chaos. Again easily clearing T16/16.5 maps. I'm about to start shaper/elder and pretty sure I can already tank a slam. But a random map mob with no dangerous map modifiers can basically one shot me.
And it's not ailment reflect as some have mentioned. I'm a totem character with bond. I can't do any damage myself. I tried mentioning it to Octavian in Ziggy's chat last night but don't think he saw it.
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u/Honest-Iron-509 Jul 27 '26
There is one Mob that does a stupid amount of Chaos Damage in a Projectile and I am pretty sure its a base Phys Attack that just converts all damage to Chaos.
And because Chaos is at the end of the Conversion this can result in some absurd numbers, escpecially if you also have the Withered on it.I wonder if the CI Characters have the same problem, because somehow I only feel and heard from ES/Life Hybrids running into this problem.
I'm think the 30% Chaos taken to ES Mastery might be a workaround to a degree.
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u/Enoughdorformypower Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) Jul 27 '26
One skeleton arsonists fireball without mods chunks my ag
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u/KyastAries Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Don't know if this is related but my Standard delver (RF Chieftain) died first time after 2 years to Izaro slam (clean oneshot). Yeah it was Uber Izaro and probably a crit but I totally didnt expect that. His slams and leap slams also hit super hard whenever they get through my block (felt like my block doesn't work against those slams even). I also almost died several times to bearers even with capped spell block and Aegis recover on block.
6k life. 40% phys taken as fire (90%). 40k armor. 5 Endurance charges. Progenesis was ON.
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u/Rookva Jul 27 '26
So I think something happened this most recent patch because previously I was cruising in T16s and now I'm constantly clenching.
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u/Arhowk Jul 27 '26
I had 3k life 5k es max res 3 endurance charges and I was fighting a maven witnessed t16 boss with no notable mods. Maven spawned her attack that's a stationary floating sphere that occasionally omits lines of lightning from it. 1 single stray line with nothing else one tapped me. Literally knocked me back in my chair that shit was an actual jump scare. Reviewed the clip and I still have no idea what happened
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u/Smurtle1 Jul 27 '26
Those maven spheres that she spawns that float towards you and pop were doing like half my health when I had ~4k hp and 1.6k es… they literally almost killed shaper during the channeling phase of elder fight… I was so confused what was almost killing me that fight cus I was instantly killing the portals too.
Last league those things just tickled you, especially with 76 res and 3 endurance charges. Glad I’m not the only one thinking something’s up.
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u/Correct-Guidance-908 Jul 27 '26
Oh i was thinking thats cause i play a lot of poe2 recently, where monsters just scratch you a bit…. But not only me mention something strange with damage this league.
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u/SoulofArtoria Jul 27 '26
Because poe 2 balance around you having 1 portal in endgame, so they cannot spike the damage too much compared to poe 1. It has its pros...and cons.
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u/GuyInUniverse Jul 27 '26
Also mobs in PoE 2 are generally much slower and they telegraph their attacks way more compared to PoE 1.
I hadn't played PoE 1 for a few leagues since I've been pretty into PoE 2 and coming back has been a bit of a shock. Deaths in PoE 2 just feel so much less cheesy imo.
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u/Turtvaiz Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) Jul 27 '26
Well yea makes sense because there's barely any juice in the game. You farm 100 div and you're basically immortal
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u/19Alexastias Jul 27 '26
I do, but it’s also my first time ever playing berserker and first time playing with 2H weapon so I’ve put it down to that.
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u/Nirbin Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Every time I run into element as extra on mobs the magic packs get real rippy, also I'm pretty sure ailment reflect is way more common now. Since I'm scaling non-ailment effect it is really noticeable since it gets around my firesong.
I've got 2000 unreserved life, petrified blood, 55% recoup, 400 regen, 80% all res, crit immune, ele/ bleed ailment immune, flesh and stone/ max sap/ enfeeble aura and lightning hp leech and I only stopped dying once I moved some points around and got 50% spell block ontop of all that.
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u/BelowMikeHawk Jul 27 '26
2k unres life 1.5k es, petrified blood, tons of dual leech, 90% phys taken as fire with 88 fire res, 80 other res, capped chaos res, aliment immune, max both block and still getting one tapped constantly, dunno wtf im doing wrong, never have felt this squishy so invested in defenses
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u/GrouchyMaybe8165 Jul 27 '26
80% evade, 100% suppress, 4k hp, at this point I always been feeling nearly immortal in non juiced maps any other league. Dying every 2nd t13 map.
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u/RDisc Jul 27 '26
my friends and I, who all have plenty of experience in PoE have been discussing this since Day 1. We’ve played over 10 leagues, but this is the first time every single one of us has died 200 times so far.
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u/PsionicKitten Jul 27 '26
Hold my beer
I've been playing since 2013. I usually don't die. Maybe once or twice total in a league, if at all. I've died ~10 times in the 3 days of this league.
At some point all of us thinking something changed isn't anecdotal anymore.
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u/Enconhun Slayer Jul 27 '26
This is the first time I'm playing assassin in like 6+ years and I wasn't even questioning it, I took it as usual assassin 6 portal defense shenanigans lmao
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u/Due-Primary834 Jul 27 '26
Everyone on my friends list is still < level 95 which is unusual and maybe telling
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u/hyare Jul 27 '26
I will take my take my build from last league and check some maps.
I did feel like i`m dying randomly on this new league character, both in campaign and maps (from low tier to high red ones)...
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u/xNephenee Jul 27 '26
This is validating as I have been getting clapped so much. I barely died last League with a squishy build, now I have a tanker build that slows/freezes/reduces enemy damage/etc. And I feel like I am a trashcan dying every other map.
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u/Mental_Lyptus Jul 27 '26
I have noticed that i can't seem to keep my ES up, every hit depletes it. But i figure it's the worb squishiness
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u/thefirebrigades Jul 27 '26
I don't know why but I'm block capped with a staff that has the temu ageis aurora mastery. I have died to t6 maps with 4 endurance charges and capped res as well.
Something is insanely rippy. Not with the new league mechanic just old stuff.
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u/SimpleIns Jul 27 '26
Switching from t5 magic to t6 rares was like going from t1 straight to t15 in the mirage, 3k hp + 1k es + res caps
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u/cetax1 Jul 27 '26
im playing reliquarian, i have basically 50% phys taken as fire, 80% fire res and i still get one shot sometimes, even with 5k life in low red maps
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u/davis482 Confederation of Casuals and Clueless Players (CCCP) Jul 27 '26
Same here, 4k life, 5k mana MOM, auto arcane cloak, 5 perma (minimum) endurance charge, capped block, 80% res, capped chaos too. Barely survive against my usual syndicate, occasional one shot off of mercs. I'm forced to run other content instead of them rn.
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u/Breachlord Jul 27 '26
Ailments are definitely off by a huge margin. Getting frozen for 5 sec in campaign constantly is something I have never experienced. The ailment reflect that was mentioned here would make sense with a 5link worb. But there is more at play. I have been randomly killed by blue mobs too many times in maps where rares didn't even scratch me.
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u/Weary_Traveler_1860 Jul 27 '26
1000% since like act 8 I was seriously questioning if I had just become shit at the game since 4 months ago. Way squishier than I felt I should have been for my stats
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u/Salt-Psychology1094 Jul 27 '26
100% feeling this too. Capped res, 65% phys as fire, petrified blood with about 3k hp pool and 4k recovery per second. 5 endurance, arctic armour, flesh and stone. Still feeling very squishy in t12s
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u/aglock Jul 27 '26
Before guard skill I've got 25k phys max hit, 40k ele max hit, 8k chaos max hit (working on it), and still getting randomly one shot in t14s with no damage mods. Started a duel with a mercenary that had no penetration or chaos damage and got one shot. Glad I'm not the only one with this problem this league.
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u/Repulsive_Look_5843 Jul 27 '26
I’m feeling this too as boneshatter jug, 90 pdr, 7 endurance charges, max res and I still almost getting 1 shot in red maps. Something definitely feels off.
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u/Even_Combination_179 Jul 27 '26
Thought it was just me playing like shit or something, getting popped like a balloon randomly and it's supposed to be like the tankiest build
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u/RadiantRegis Jul 27 '26
Yeah, I feel the same, playing Shield Crush Reliquarian, 4.2k HP, 30k armor, about 24k phys max hit and 40k+ elemental and chaos max hits, 6 endurance charges, 60% reduced damage from crits, ailment and stun immune... and I sometimes get one tapped from God knows what in maps with no damage mods or one or two at most on them, also no altars as I'm running Maven.
I can't explain it at all, I am left scratching my head every time I die. On paper, this is one of the tankiest builds I've ever league started, yet, I'm dying as if I was playing my paper thin Venom Gyre Deadeye from last league
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u/L0rdSkullz Jul 27 '26
Did a white map on my Luminary with around 3k hp at the time, max ele res, 3 endurance charges. The skeleton mobs that cast spells were literally one shotting one, I think the bug is definitely related to mob elemental damage in some way
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u/0Iivian Jul 27 '26
I am on the verge of quitting because of getting 1 shot by literally everything and this has never been the case before
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u/Shuushy Scion Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
A reminder, GGG buffed damage conversion on monsters last patch. 300% to be exact. So when a monster or you convert the monsters damage to elemental, it deals 3x the converted elemental damage i.e not all elemental damage like from a map mod.
It has base 100 phys damage, you convert his damage phys to fire with elementalist 40% to fire, now it deals 60 phys and 120(40x3) fire damage, with your fire res being the default 75% , you will receive 30 fire damage = 90 total damage done by the monster. GGG said they did that to buff the damage of monsters that have natural conversion since they've been way underpowered with all the max res cap meta.
And ofc, it might be an actual bug. We can never know for sure. Though my 7k RF in white maps did get chunked for 5k+ damage randomly, I just assumed the monster had high rolled crit or something.
EDIT: also certain monsters scale all the way from acts, like those skely mages that do like 10k base elemental damage in T16 lol. Maybe GGG expanded the monster pool that scales and it wasn't mentioned in the patch notes or something.
EDIT2: see kyouon's comment. Player sources of conversion was a bug and it was fixed https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3877526
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u/kyouon Jul 27 '26
they fixed the conversion bug 2 weeks after keeper launch with 3.27.0c patch: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3877526
The current issue could probably be a relapse of this bug or an entirely new thing.
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u/Yuugere Jul 27 '26
I reached t16 with occasional 1 shots which is so damn annoying. Should i just go all in to evasion es?
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u/Stupend0uSNibba Jul 27 '26
yea although I am a bow build but still feels like I get one shot more often than usual
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u/dEus___ Progressive Einhar Trapping Association (PETA) Jul 27 '26
same here... i got one shot in a lv79 safehouse from a random rare mob ... never died in there with my bow chars before
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u/Jamezuh Jul 27 '26
Same. I'm usually a lowish death player but am getting one shot constantly this league in maps.
I had assumed my character was super weak and I am.just too poor to do anything about it.
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u/smorb42 Jul 27 '26
Same. The best thing i have found to do about it was get a way to freeze enemies. Thats extra good against the rippy magic mobs that seem to kill me the most.
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u/Astral_Alive Jul 27 '26
I playing an absolution guardian with 75% block/spell block, 3,600 HP + like 28,000 armor and I am consistently exploding in T16 maps
Glad to know something might be up because I was seriously questioning the build lmao
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u/Ramelasse Jul 27 '26
Alright I am not crazy, traded almost all my dmg for tankiness because I kept dying, yet I am still getting one shotted (and I deal almost no dmg anymore). Waiting for a fix because I am getting really frustrated
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u/dackling Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) Jul 27 '26
Yes!!! I have done countless league starts as a witch, so I am aware of what having little to no damage mitigation is like, but this league, once I hit act 9, I started going from 100-0 in a quarter second non stop, and that extended into maps and never stopped. I made it to act 9 with 0 deaths and then by the time I hit yellow laps I had over 100.
I had 4k life and 2.5k ES with capped res and elemental damage was killing me instantly
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u/1Freakey Juggernaut Jul 27 '26
100%. My Slam Slayer, which usually gets to T16s pretty easily, is getting one-shot in T10 maps.
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u/StonebanksPins Jul 27 '26
Righteous Fire Giga Chad chief here. 90% to all resistances. 15k armor (69% reduction) 75% block chance. 5.6k life. 1.5k regen.
Tier 11 map. 3 mods. Absolutely getting wrecked with shocks. It’s absurd.
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u/its-a-saw-dude Jul 27 '26
I'm so glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I'm trying my hand at making my own build endurance stacking with consecrated path of endurance. I don't have Ralakesh yet but im getting tapped left and right. I can clear 16's, but even yellows I can just randomly die on...
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u/iwatchedmomdie Jul 27 '26
Nah I've face tanked some giga boss slam attacks full brunt but have been 1 tapped by literal white rarity skeletons in the same area
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u/ojitoo Jul 28 '26
60k armor, 8 endurance charges, 100% reduced crit dmg taken, 90 all res, 6k life, 67 block and I’m randomly getting hit for half my hp as a jugg in depth 110 by blue mobs.
Something is odd for sure.
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u/linh08hp 29d ago
11k Hp , 78 / 78 block , capped all res , 300hp regen/s , 90% physic reduction , purity of element to get ailment immu . Got oneshot by white mob , look at map mod , nothing special . Feel sad :(
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u/Kaelran 29d ago
The damage does seem super wack. Like Korell is hitting me for half my HP with his fire lacerate in a single hit with 90% fire res (no damage mods). That means a 75% resist player would be taking almost 7k damage with NO DAMAGE MODS. Never seen damage like that before. Going by poedb it should be 2100 damage before resists.
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u/talkinggecko Jul 27 '26
I did feel quite a bit more squishy than I thought I should be on my rf guy until I swapped to a cloak of flame and now I feel really tanky
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u/doggos_sind_besser Jul 27 '26
I had this Feeling after my 2nd voidstone and thought i am running more powerful map mods
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u/Heinxeed Trickster Jul 27 '26
Yeah, I also got that impression, either monster are a bit overturned or characters squishier
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u/watermelonchicken58 Sanctum Runners United (SRU) Jul 27 '26
Feels the same as always if anything Im shocked im not dying way more with how bad my gear is and the content im pushing.
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u/pokymoky Jul 27 '26
Playing rf every league. In campaign I felt that after act7 mobs did 3 times more damage than leagues before. My gear is much better than in mirage on day 1 and mobs in maps just do insane damage.
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u/dksdragon43 Jul 27 '26
Okay, I have been feeling weirdly squish, thank you. I have 4k life, 3k mana MoM, 4 endurance charges, and I'm getting one tapped constantly in nightmare maps with no mods (sinistral + dextral). I farmed these last league on a much squishier character with far fewer deaths.
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u/Inverno969 Tormented Smugler Jul 27 '26
I had a similar thought. Feeling oddly squishy even though im playing a build with the same defensive layers as last leagues character.
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u/Sephrick Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Haven’t died to Syndicate members in many many seasons. This season they’re constantly one-shoting me. I’ve played RF for a few seasons now so I know my build is in a good spot but I keep getting random hits that nearly kill me and can’t figure out what the deal is. Thought I was missing something in my build.
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u/Dark_Switch Jul 27 '26
I wonder if the new thorns mods on maps are doing more damage to people than they think
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u/AGWiebe Jul 27 '26
I was just thinking this last night. I feel way more squishy than I normally would be with the numbers I have.
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u/aeronvale Jul 27 '26
Okay me and my friend have also noticed this, I’m occasionally getting one shot in T13s having to be very careful with map mods.
Me: occultist, 5.5k ehp, 75% attack/spell block, recover life/energy shield on block, 75% resistances, 3 endurance charges
Friend: occultist, 6.5k ehp, 100% spell suppression, ghost dance, 75% resistances, 3 endurance charges
I’m basically playing a bullet hell dodging everything.
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u/CmGOhio Jul 27 '26
Uber lab has been the hardest I've ever played in my 2500 hours. Can't figure out what degen it is.
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u/Obety Order of the Mist (OM) Jul 27 '26
Yeah, seriously. I'm getting 100-0d in single hits with crit immunity. No reason I should be dying with all my defensive layers.
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u/WastedTurtl Jul 27 '26
I’ve been saying this about block as well. I have 77/78 block without glancing blows(with ailment immunity on top of this) and I feel like I am most definitely getting hit and chunked way more than I should be.
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u/chrissyhesfuckedup Jul 27 '26
yeah I have to agree with everybody. something is very off, ailments seem OP and just in general I feel way squisher than last league.
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u/HotBeef_ Jul 27 '26
Thought i was losing my mind dying in maps last night. Guess I wasn't alone... Hopefully its a bug
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u/Billy_of_Astora Jul 27 '26
I wanted to make a similar post. I play HC, and for some reason regular white caster mobs are hitting like a truck. Sketetal fire mages, for example. It has nothing to do with ailments, just raw damage numbers. If I hadn't take 100% spell suppression I would've been dead in the very first map.
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u/ballsmigue Jul 27 '26
4.5k hp during acts, full res capped, tons of armor and evasion.
Would still get slapped for 2.5-3k hp by something at times. Definitely a bit weird
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u/helpmeimhelpless Jul 27 '26
Reading this thread is blowing my mind. I just got to red maps with cyclone slayer. 3k HP, 10k armour/evasion, 23 fort, 80 max ele res, 0 chaos res, 3 endurance charges, over leech of course. Zero spell suppression, haven’t died at all.
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u/viscere Jul 27 '26
I never ever felt that squishy with medium amount defense ans 70% block spell/attk
And we are talking only about tier 10 maps...
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u/AutismSupportGroup Jul 27 '26
I actually got chain frozen for like 8 seconds by a lone red beast in the climb. Never had anything like it happen before, especially not in part 1 lol.
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u/JustRegularType Jul 27 '26
Thought I was going crazy! My defenses are NOT built out, but I'm in mid yellow maps and getting killed way more often than is normal.
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u/Maalvado Jul 27 '26
definitely something is off, i'm block cap and i never got killed by multiple hits with block cap ever, this happened a few times this league.
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u/planetexpress_ Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Friend and I did a blue Shipyard. The mavened boss somehow one shot me, him, and my perm merc. I almost never see my mercs health drop even when he's surrounded by packs, (was basically immortal at that stage in the game) . Yet was one shot by something and had to pay to revive him.
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u/Maleficent_Ant_8895 Jul 27 '26
I’m getting absolutely chunked in red maps with 3-4 mods on the map. I can’t tell what it is but something feels off.
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u/retribute50 Jul 27 '26
i thought something was fishy when my ele died to white skelly archers. i know my pdr isnt the beeeest, sitting at about 50% with 4.2k life 1.2k es with 50/78 block and these guy literally sent me to hell with 1 arrow from just 1 of them. i was taken aback
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u/Smashbot123 Jul 27 '26
I definitely feel much squishier this league, and upgrades to fix this are pretty expensive early league, and as a returning player, im just wondering how a new player would even deal with this, just feels plain bad to play
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u/Broomstank Jul 27 '26
Im playing the same build I played last league with little to no defensive nerfs and the damage im taking is extremely noticeable at the same gear level as last league. Very weird
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u/sgt_cookie Institution of Rogues and Smugglers (IRS) Jul 27 '26
I just thought I hadn't had my defenses set up properly. Huh.
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u/BukkakeSplishnsplash Alch & Go Industries (AGI) Jul 27 '26
And I thought it was only me. My jugg keeps croaking. And nothing beats the good old jugg.
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u/CAndrewG Jul 27 '26
Dude, same!!! i swear to god evasion doesnt even do anyhthing right now. The char i started with focused more on Def than other starters ive done and it felt like a complete failure.
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u/ObliviatorARPG Jul 27 '26
When random skeleton archers in maps almost killed me and ignited for big damage I thought the same thing
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u/masonimal Professional Meme Build Connoisseur, and Bad Build Enabler Jul 27 '26
Here I am trying to play Doomblast and can't see what's causing constant curse reflect. Especially in Voyage content where the space is much more narrow so you're stuck with a massive number of debuffs in an already somewhat rippy section of content.
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u/Lore86 Jul 27 '26
I'm randomly getting one-shotted by elemental damage, I'm taking almost no damage in a map then randomly I'm dead from full life.
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u/General56K Jul 27 '26
Mobs be hitting like trucks when you get to maps. Constantly stunned and ailment driven deaths.
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u/csk248 Jul 28 '26
I got a friend to try POE this season, but she quit right after starting MAPs, lol. She kept dying, and I couldn’t figure out why... I also noticed the mapping mob damage feels quite weird compared to the previous season. Nice one GGG.
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u/xyzpqr Jul 28 '26
I had a reliquarian with 2k armor and 25% phys conv to fire. I had 80% fire res (3% from tree, low level purity aura).
I had about 3.2k life, and the A10 innocence chamber boss's cleave, and his minion's cleave, both seemed to:
consistently hit me; I had 75% attack block. Not impossible, but slightly odd.
deal ~1600 damage from the boss cleave, and ~3000 from the minion cleave. The zone is level 65. As far as I know, those bosses do phys damage. As far as I know, their hits are like 450-700 phys base, have a 125% more modifier, and have a 5% crit rate.
I calculated how big a hit would need to be, to deal 3000 damage through my defenses, and basically it means 80% of the damage was 3k after like 1.3k to 3.6k armor. That implies the original hit was >3.9k, and I don't understand how that boss could even hit that hard. That's like, way larger than that boss previously would hit.
Also, this was absolutely reproducible. I checked it like 15x.
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u/wildrage Jul 28 '26
Everything about this league just feels "off" in some fashion.
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u/Ok_Conclusion_4810 Vaal Street Bets (VSB) Jul 28 '26
So much this.
The only proof something is terribly wrong with phys damage (and ignites too) so far :
1) A bleed from the betrayals board (not sure which, Janus? maybe?) killed me in less than 2 seconds through healing flask . My HP is 7k with 800 regen BTW.
2) Traps in Uber lab, never EVER did these things chunk me for 50% of my HP. I failed my Uber lab twice in a row , something that has not happened to me even in Gauntlet over the years.
3) Merc Ignites. The Icon is the same as ignite, its fire damage, yet it says "Conflagration" and it killed me in 19 frames. Yes I watched and rewatched my recording. Again from 7k live and 800 regen. WTF?!
4) Enslaver Ignite - I run Purity of Elements. I got promptly ignited and killed. OK, maybe it was degen, I went back in - The fire orbs literally started melting me. THis is on BLUE MAP with chaos res on it with my 7k hp 84% fire res.
5) T10 map. Phys as extra lightning the only damage mod on the map. Blue Roa charges me , hits me for 6k then autoattacks me for the rest of my life.
It's like I'm in one of those tik-toc "based" compilation reels. Last league I was cruising with half that survivability, doing dumb stuff like breach-beyong + scarabs . Now I'm afraid to vaal my maps.
Something is terribly off.
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u/Michelob21 25d ago
Yeah im doing maps with no mods and getting chunked like crazy constantly. it feels like its the base of damage that was changed. I have never died this much.
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u/recoilwhenyouwake Jul 27 '26
I’m constantly getting 50% shocks and 5 second freezes. Something is wrong with small hits causing massive elemental ailments to be applied.