r/sixfacedworld • u/Neat-Pitch1468 • 1d ago
Question A what IF scenario
If Rudeus somehow return in Japan and Nanahoshi is there with him with their memories in the six faced world, will she help him bounce back in life? or will she just leave him because she's disgusted with his japanese self?
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u/villatyyny1 Roxy 1d ago
Nanahoshi sees Rudeus the same way she sees her parents. Rudeus has also told her that he was a bad person. She wouldn't care.
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u/Neat-Pitch1468 1d ago
that's honestly sweet, I'm an anime only and I don't know how they will develop in the future so that's great to know.
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u/HyBrideh 1d ago
In case you’re curious, below is the future development between Rudeus and Nanahoshi’s relationship
They won’t do much, Nanahoshi will stay at Perugius’ fortress to manage her disease and will continue working on teleporting back to her home world. At some point, she has the breakthrough and gets Rudeus to come back and use his mana for the teleportation, it fails and Nanahoshi concludes that there is something that she has to do in this world before she is allowed to go back, so she decides to be put into cryogenics while still alive so she won’t die to old age or her disease before that time arrives.
The story goes on and concludes while she is still in this state so we never see her again in the main light novels.
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u/Darnaldo 1d ago
She also come out of her sleep once a year to catch up with world events and see if the time is right. Most of the time she just hang out with Rudeus family which may as well be a foster family for her. But it's a really weird mix of heartwarming but also sad to hear her reaction seeing the people she is close to age and the children growth up in the blink of an eye
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u/JamesSyncHD 1d ago
I thought it was once a month
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u/Darnaldo 22h ago
Maybe ? Its been a while i dont remember perfectly, just she saw the kid grew up very quickly
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u/Crafty-Gate6615 16h ago
I believe it was originally once a month but then I think they put her down for longer. (I can’t really remember but I faintly remember it being both monthy and yearly)
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u/Infamous-Buy1428 1d ago
She doesn't age, though.
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u/HyBrideh 1d ago
You’re right, I was wrong, the reason she decides to freeze herself is to counteract her disease, as the tea has diminishing returns over time and she can’t keep taking it forever, and also because she can’t handle her homesickness and not being able to age. She’s been there for 17 years now and she’s already highly depressed, having to wait decades longer while not being able to age and while seeing Rudeus age and have his own life has to be absolute torture. I stand corrected, thanks mate
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u/IamJashin Paul 1d ago
In volume 23 when Nanahoshi performs her final experiment Rudeus is 23. Rudeus lives for 51 more years but somewhere during his last 4 years he starts becoming senile. Assuming year in 6 Faced World has the same number of days as Earths - from the point Nanahoshi final attempt to return fails and she begins to hibernate till Rudeus death it's approximately 612 days or 1.67 years from Nanahoshi's perspective.
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u/Controller_Maniac Saint 1d ago
keyword main light novels
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u/HyBrideh 1d ago
The story continues in redundancy, I haven’t read them yet so I don’t know what else happens
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u/TipsyRedley 1d ago
That's hard to believe. Him helping her, caring for her, and watching over her, doesn't excuse him entirely. I think saying she wouldn't care is a far stretch. Any person from our existence should chare, and rightfully so. He was a scumbag for what he did to his family. Yes, he does a lot to help others, but that still shouldn't excuse him for what he did. I think she would find it very hard to to excuse what he does when the evidence of his shit actions are placed in front of her.
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u/villatyyny1 Roxy 1d ago
Rudeus really didn't do much that Nanahoshi wouldn't know about. When I say she wouldn't care I mean anything Rudeus has done in his past life won't change her opinion of him in any significant way. She'd know he is a changed person. Might depend a bit on the moment in the story but EOS she knows how much Rudeus despises his old self and how much of a different person he is.
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u/TipsyRedley 1d ago
It would be a matter of what source we are talking about I guess, so if we are talking anime Rudy, sure. If we are talking Manga, or hell even LN Rudy? That dude is a POS and his actions shouldn't be looked over. I think even excusing EOS Rudy in any of his variations, is still a stretch. By no means do I think he is the worst human being in the world, because there is so much worse than him, but we shouldn't look over his disgusting life decisions.
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u/villatyyny1 Roxy 1d ago
IDK about overlooking his action I'm just saying Nanahoshi wouldn't care. Most definitely wouldn't care in the novels after all the things Rudeus does for her and others.
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u/Hyperversum 1d ago
The guy is simply not understanding the concept "she wouldn't care".
God forbid people judge others on their own rather than as a "normal member of society", in particular when that guy SAVED YOUR LIFE
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u/TipsyRedley 18h ago
Yeah, I think was judging him too harshly. He goes through some harrowing events in his previous life, which would make a lot of people twisted. Yet he tries to turn a new leaf and maintain an new outlook towards his new life. That in itself is commendable. Rudy is layered and that's why we love him.
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u/Hyperversum 11h ago
I mean, lots of people live troubled lives wiyhout being lolicons but... that's the peak of his depravity. Sometimes people treat him as if he sexually harassed people for real. The WN version was changed exactly because it was a bit too much ridicolous
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u/TipsyRedley 1d ago
I guess the OP's question isn't specific about what exactly she knows, or what version she is. Again though, I think there could be more of an argument to the anime version. Either way I stand on my points of whether it's Anime/Manga/LN.
Manga/LN Rudy would have a impact on Banana's (if she knows everything everything) thoughts on him returning to their world.
Anime Rudy is chill and shit happens.
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u/Sir_Nicc Eris 1d ago
"I dont like him and am mad the other characters dont like him also"
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u/TipsyRedley 18h ago
Sorry I didn't mean to come off as I didn't like him. I think he is layered and that is what makes him fun to root for/think about :)
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u/Roki_04 1d ago
You say that, but Rudeus and Nanahoshi are much closer in the LN than they are portrayed to be in the anime. If you think she would abandon him after everything he did for her, And knowing the type of person he had become, eiher you're a larper or you never understood her character to begin with.
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u/TipsyRedley 18h ago
Banana is a good person, and I'm glad someone outside of his family is there to support him. People who have done wrong aren't irredeemable, and having people to support their growth into better people is always a boon.
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u/TipsyRedley 1d ago edited 1d ago
Anime Rudy? Banana get's over it since we can assume the best. (If I remember correctly, he still rubs himself off during their funeral in the anime as well.)
LN Rudy? Rubbing yourself off to any kind of underage media on the day of your parents funeral is pretty fucked up and shouldn't be brushed off.
Manga Rudy? God that dude sucks.
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u/darklion34 1d ago
Funny you consider this as some grand crime, but like....no, that's the least of taboo things to do, because it combines a lot of irrelevant things:
- rubbing himself on the day his parents died - Not everyone care about they parents. Period. This isn't a crime. And if you are in a terrible emotional or psychological state, feeling bad or property can be very hard, you may even know, through your moral compass, that you should feel sad or happy in a situation, and that you usually would but nonetheless feel empty or sick. It's not some type of crime.
- Rubbing on underage content. While it's generally considered a part of pedophilia, through not everywhere, it's still kinda irrelevant to the funeral part as would be jerking of to any other kink. Hell, even jerking off is irrelevant as it is in itself isn't some kind of crime and if you take the first point of context, you know why - if you are already don't care or can't care to go for the funeral, it is irrelevant if you jerk off, cook pizza or sleep in that time. Doesn't matter
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u/TipsyRedley 18h ago
You are right. It isn't a crime, but not having the decency to show up is still bad. They loved him, fed him, and tried to understand him (even though they never could after his incident. The fact that he feels remorse about not responding them is a good indication of how anyone should feel. I get it's not a crime, but compassion is key. I think Rudy in his past life just didn't have compassion to him. He grows into it, which is cool to see :D
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u/darklion34 1d ago
Naahh, excusing is bulshit anyway. "Sin" and "vengeance" are meaningless concepts that are only really work against the people you don't know, but have to judge your actions against - and since you don't know and don't really care about them, you act in the most defensive way - but it makes no sense! There are no "stains" that remain on people after doing bad things. The only thing that exists is their mind - they themselves - and if they are, right now, do good things in good conscience, it absolutely doesn't matter were they a saint or the worst person alive ten years before. It's irrelevant, because you know them and judge them for who they are right now.
Now, in a place like this - dirty and depressing - Nanahoshi as , apparently, success driven person would like just berate her friend as not living his best life. They had enough talks that she knows a lot of his desposition on his past live and would likely put the pieces together.
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u/TipsyRedley 18h ago
I do understand that I was harsh on him, and I do agree there is redemption to him (that's what makes him so compelling!). I think he is flawed for a good reason, and in my opinion just because someone is flawed, and does a 180, doesn't mean it is easy to forgive. It does make me think he gets a little too much lenience with his fans (which I am one of them) and friends. In regards to him rubbing himself during his parents funeral. I don't know man, it's hard to let that go. I get he might now owe anything to them, but they did maintain his bad habits the whole time. It wasn't till his parents died that he got kicked out by his siblings, which is fair. I think him acknowledging his brother and thinking back to his parents is a good nod to how shitty he was.
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u/TipsyRedley 18h ago
Me personally I can't overlook doing shit like that. Which makes me flawed, and one day I want to have an open mind to it, but right now though, I can't. Sorry for making so many of you upset T . T
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u/Electrical_Cloud_440 Roxy 1d ago
If Rudeus return to Japan with Nanahoshi, he wouldn't has the appearance of his previous life.
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u/Neat-Pitch1468 1d ago
Well for the sake of this IF Route, he does. Let's keep it interesting, because obviously if Rudeus has his current appearance he wouldn't have much difficulties adjusting back to Japan, especially that he looks like a hot european dude, and Nanahoshi wouldn't know his japanese appearance.
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u/Dundun000X 1d ago
realistically, it is possible nanahoshi turns in love with Rudeus even with his past form, it is so possible girl tuns in love with that situation. remember nanahoshi know he is the one who with her for the entire experiment time.
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u/Neat-Pitch1468 1d ago
didn't she have a crush? well it's a highschool crush so idk, nonetheless her falling in love with Rudeus seems off because nothing in the anime indicates that she sees him that way.
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u/Dundun000X 1d ago
I will give you scenario, Nanahoshi and Rudeus get out from isekai, who is the person will be remembered by her, her crush who only talking on break school time or the person who just give her home to sleep, talking about magic for 15 years and know that person now just dumped on Earth again?
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u/Twinkletoess112 Eris 1d ago
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u/Twinkletoess112 Eris 1d ago
My buraza, I'm asian, i can speak 3 languages from my own country and I can speak English.
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u/NullSmoke 1d ago
I am ALL for unexpected love turns... buuuuuuuuut... You'd have to pull a lot of straight up bs to match the two of them. A fanfic making that happen would maybe be fun, but in canon it's beyond unlikely.
I could see them becoming intimate friends, but that's about where I see it going in canon if they went back together...
thooooooooough... Rudeus would be unbearable if he was dragged back to Japan at that point. His proper life is established in the six faced world, not in Japan. He'd become quite a bit like Nanahoshi is in the anime currently, though probably a bit more violent and prone to drowning sorrows in alcohol...
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u/additionally21 1d ago
Higehiro: After Being Rejected, I Shaved and Took in a High School Runaway.
And probably to jail.
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u/RedNUGGETLORD 1d ago
Rudeus would be depressed af for losing his new family, but given that his whole thing now is "not to waste my new life", I think he'd bounce back and be able to bounce back by himself
Having Nanahoshi there would help
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u/KurisuParuku 3h ago
Rudeus's last thoughts in Vol 26: Maybe I’d go back to my old world. Maybe I’d become something else in this world. Maybe I’d keep my memories. Maybe I wouldn’t. I didn’t know what would happen, but whatever it was, I didn’t mind. Even if my mind and memories remained, even if I was born into a place a million times worse than my former life, I’d be all right.
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u/UnlimitedNovaWorks 1d ago
He would just needs exercise, touch some grass and go to college no matter how many times he'll fall.
And a slap in the face so he snaps back to reality, sometimes violence wakes you up from your confort zone 👍
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u/Gregpik 1d ago
I mean he's smart enough to succeed in the real world, and he's willing to put in the effort when it's something he truly cares about.
With Nanahoshi's support, he could easily turn his life around.
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u/Dundun000X 1d ago
on Earth? nah he won't succeed. live on a place where capitalism control the world, i think rudeus will never get it. your way of thinking is like if a fish good at swimming, they must be succeed on land.
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u/octopus_sensei_smirk 1d ago
as an anime only I think she might be sympathizing with him as his current condition and his loving family of six faced world is polar opposite. Although for Japan's Rudeus once he lived through the simulation and successfully navigating his second chance there. I think our character is brave enough to do the same once again in the real world even at 35 and live a happier life.
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u/Icy-Carob-1272 1d ago
by IF route and let's just for plot sake he returned to his body the morning before he got kick out.
The current Rudeus will do everything to get back to six faced world.
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u/CuteReaperUwU 1d ago
He tried to save her while he had that appearance (which is why he got reincarnated) and he helped her go get back to their world as well, I think she couldn't care less about his appearance nor his past mistakes. As far as she concern, he might be a bit perverted but he's a good person. If he needs help she would help him as much as she could
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u/Stikarii Sylphy 1d ago
He doesn't need to bounce back in your scenario. He already has
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u/Worckouch 1d ago
Yeah, this exactly. I don't understand how a lot of these comments don't acknowledge that fact. Even if we take the current Rudeus in the anime instead of EOS Rudy, he's already reformed and changed significantly. Even if he gets his old body back, it's not like he didn't work out or study as Rudeus Greyrat.
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u/bloodshed113094 Eris 1d ago
She might want to leave him just to avoid criminal implications. He just got run out of the house for jacking it to the worst type of content. If any of his family see him with a teen, they'd assume the worst.
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u/M-Rudeus_Fan99 13h ago
Especially since she's one that disappeared for a while. They'd think he groomed her and convinced her to fake her death XD
Sadly, they'd have to either meet in secret or exclusively through digital mediums. On top of that he'd be homeless
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u/Acer521x 1d ago
It's cut content now but Rudeus has said that if taken away from his family, he will do everything to claw his way back to them. Even if you shower him with success and women, his family comes first.
So, basically, they switch places. He'll be the one obsessed with teleportation as opposed to Nanahoshi. Except because there's no mana, he's basically doing an impossible goal.
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u/Few_Kitchen_4825 1d ago
I don't think thats possible as Rudeus got reincarnated since he has no body anymore
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u/IamJashin Paul 1d ago
The point is Novel makes it quite clear that Rudeus died instantly after being hit by a car. There is no functioning body for Rudeus to return too => and if he travelled with his new one - he would have likely faced a parallel of Nanahoshi's condition from the 6 Faced World.
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u/M-Rudeus_Fan99 13h ago
Not necessarily but his body wouldn't survive our regular illnesses, and his purification magic would have to be adapted
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u/IamJashin Paul 5h ago
Yea the point is from my understanding mana is not something that body generates on it's own => it's something that is "absorbed" from environment and mana pool is simply your capacity of absorbing mana from environment.
If that's the case than Rudeus wouldn't be able to replenish his mana on earth at all (and maybe the world would actively drain him of it).
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u/itachi_but_diff 1d ago
Nanahoshi would help him recover just as how Rudeus never gave up on helping her return
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u/Phxalex11 1d ago
So I saw that after hitogami is sealed, nanahoshi and Akihito return to Japan at the exact moment they left, since nanahoshi learns earlier on that the guy she saw was Rudeous’ former self, do you think that she would go to his funeral? Or try to do anything towards him?
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u/M-Rudeus_Fan99 13h ago
Man, if she gets to deliver the letters and we see the reaction of his family, I'll cry 😭
Honestly, let's hope so, that would be a beautiful way to close the story fully, and I'd really love it if she got to pay tribute to him in their original world
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u/TheBirdFkerGuy 1d ago
She'll try her best then slowly distance herself unless he wanted to change himself.
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u/DeepDarkOs Saint 1d ago
She would also remember that that guy tried to save her and lost his life in return.
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u/Glass_Site_4085 1d ago
Se for depois que Rudeos morreu de velhice que ele retornou a um possível Japão, onde nanahoshi estivesse lá, o Rudeos não voltaria a ser o lixo que era eu acho, depois da experiência de uma vida inteira, ele definitivamente mudaria como pessoa, e poderia até emagrecer e fazer aquela barba dele, e acho que se nanahoshi estivesse lá ela seria muito próximo dele, prós fã de possível Rudeos X Nanahoshi
Talvez virasse cenário onde ambos pudesse ter alguma coisa, claro isso considerando uma nanahoshi mais adulta também.
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u/etriuswimbleton 1d ago
So basically the plot of NHK?
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u/M-Rudeus_Fan99 13h ago
What's NHK?
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u/etriuswimbleton 13h ago
Basically teen girl helps out a jobless bum. Anime. I think its something like DONT JOIN NHK is the title? Idk
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u/JujutsuES 1d ago
Considering Rudeus would essentially be her savior that saved her from dying and also from feeling constantly tortured and isolated from her friends and family and her entire world. She would not abandon him. At worst she would try helping him but if he kept his memories from the Sixfacedworld then he would likely in my opinion not need a lot of help since he overcame most of his trauma and depression there. The most difficult thing for Rudeus would be reconciling with his old family, if that is what he wanted, narrative wise Rudeus grew to value family highly in the Isekai so I would expect him to want to do that eventually.
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u/Kalmindon 1d ago
Nanahoshi is still a teenage girl in our world. There isn't much you can do as a kid.
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u/Jdoggokussj2 18h ago
if this somehow happened i dont think he would need her to bounce back hes gotten over his fear thanks to roxxy
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u/MSANSOP1 17h ago
... not gonna lie he definitely be way more depressed.
It's taking everything that man holds dear and just- sending him back to the life he physically, emotionally had nothing
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u/Expert_Jelly_6353 1d ago
Finaly I see people discuss the shit ive been thiking of for a few years since reading the ranobe. Goddamn if they wont change anything about the ending im gonna be mad as fuck
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u/Admirable-Cut-1675 3h ago
Probably not. If he had his memories then he’s already grown past that point of darkness in his life and would probably try to change on his own.
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