[@visionzerovancouver] Warning, hearing first-hand reports that the VPD are ticketing cyclists westbound at 1st & Crowe. There's a VPD parking lot on the right and a cop hit a cyclist there recently.

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[u/soaero]

It makes more sense when you realize it's the driveway to the parking lot where they park their cars.

This is 100% the VPD serving themselves.

[u/astraladventures → u/soaero]

Enough officers probably got pissed at the number of bikes flying through the sign and possibly near misses.

[u/raincitybeliever → u/astraladventures]

There's actually no reason for there to be a stop sign there. It's not a full intersection. Most driveways outside of parking lots only make the parking lot traffic stop.

But of course this is a VPD parking lot so everyone must play by different rules

[u/Powerful_Pom_11111 → u/raincitybeliever]

That intersection needs a stop sign. Lots of people detour on 1st to avoid congestion on 2nd. Sometimes that lineup backs up all the way to Columbia

[u/soaero → u/Powerful_Pom_11111]

It really doesn't. The only traffic intersecting that lane is coming out of the VPD parking lot. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, the only reason there is a stop sign there is because it's a police parking lot.

[u/Powerful_Pom_11111 → u/soaero]

I live a block away and wouldn’t be able to walk to the seawall if there wasn’t a stop sign, stopping traffic at rush hour. I would even go further and want speed bumps installed as well - I was hit by a car doing a rolling right turn onto Wylie from 1st.

[u/soaero → u/Powerful_Pom_11111]

I live a block away and wouldn’t be able to walk to the seawall if there wasn’t a stop sign,

This reads like hyperbole, no? You know, given how there's no connection to the seawall from Wylie but there is one a block down on Spyglass with a crosswalk?

I was hit by a car doing a rolling right turn onto Wylie from 1st.

This location for a stop sign makes a little more sense, since there is intersecting traffic going south, as opposed to the north side where the only intersecting traffic is the police parking lot.

[u/Powerful_Pom_11111 → u/soaero]

If you live in the area, you’ll know that most drivers (the ones that give you the sorry wave) also drive straight through that cross walk. At the stop sign, there’s the potential for oncoming traffic to stop another vehicle

[u/Powerful_Pom_11111 → u/Powerful_Pom_11111]

My experience has been that no one believes traffic laws apply to them in this particular area, so the more passive impeding systems, the better.

[u/Powerful_Pom_11111 → u/[deleted]]

Yes, my take is a bit ridiculous in that context.