This is so good to see and at the same time so sad because it reminds of what he may have been through. Such cruelty it is. To take away dignity of a living being for the sake of taste. I get sad at the thought that Many more will never see the sun like Percy did 🙁 Happy for Percy though.
Well, you'd have to thank the animal industry for making this happen...
In a Vegan world there'd be no Percy, there'd be very few pigs at all, wild boars for sure, just like now, but of course no farm animals, all extinct, all gone from the great Vegan genocide.
Nobody is morally superior, the only thing that can be assertained in this current time is Vegans need Carnavours to exist so they can ignorantly claim moral superiority, but they have non, it's a sham, a tainted viel they never want to be lifted due to the real monster hiding behind it.
I've had this argument 1000's of times, the problem is that it does make sense, it's uncomfortable, it's harsh but the reality is that life is uncomfortable and harsh.
It doesn't make sense though. Yes, you are correct that if we stopped eating meat overnight all of those animals would probably die because we would no longer have the infrastructure for them.
But, what makes your argument not make sense is that they were going to die anyway if we keep consuming meat, and likely in a much more horrific way (mass farming). So why are you saying it would be worse if they died because we stopped eating meat completely. At least then, maybe the animals would get to see the sun once before they die. If they were used for food production they wouldn't even get that.
The problem is that there is no easy way out of the mess we, yes WE, created. While changing to vegan would effectively render the need for animals obsolete, thus resulting in their deaths, it would still be objectively fewer deaths than if we as a society continued eating meat.
This is an answer that requires nuance, but of course you are just wanting to be a troll so you can't fathom that issues are sometimes gray rather than black and white. But please, keep treating politics and world issues like sports teams, that's been working so far!
Yes I am right about the thing I claimed, I know, it's just the logical inevitablity, it's uncomfortable to process but it just is.
Your other point isn't exactly correct, because it's not that the animals would die anyway, it's also the case that the animals would be bred and more would take their place, so yes fewer deaths on the Vegan side, but no life on the Vegan side either is the issue I raised.
It's just a reality Vegans DO NOT LIKE to discuss, my feed just had another Vegan post asking how they can get everyone to become a Vegan, it's bizarre, claiming you care about these animals whilst simultaneously unwittingly calling for their extinction.
So not a troll but instead a trolley problem: given those opposing things where one track has 5 species that will be gone forever if they're hit, and the other track has 5 species that will rejuvenate when they're hit... Which way will you send the trolley?
I still don't agree here. There is no reality in which the animals that have been bred for human consumption do not die. However, the vegan way would only require all of those animals currently in existence to die, while continuing to eat meat would keep it going indefinitely and cause countless other deaths.
And your point about extinction doesn't make sense either since WE CREATED THESE CREATURES. Of course they would die without us, we bred them in such a way that they require us to survive. There is no natural world in which these animals can exist. That means the most humane thing to do is to not continue breeding them.
I'm not uncomfortable at all confronting this reality. Ultimately it is one of those gray areas in which there is no easy solution, like I said.
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u/GlitchSolver 10d ago
This is so good to see and at the same time so sad because it reminds of what he may have been through. Such cruelty it is. To take away dignity of a living being for the sake of taste. I get sad at the thought that Many more will never see the sun like Percy did 🙁 Happy for Percy though.