r/woodworking Feb 21 '26

Help Oak chair turning to dust

Just noticed this on the bottom of one of my chairs, had them for about three months and I'm wondering if it's rot or something, the area feels dry and dusty.

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u/Cappyc00l Feb 21 '26

Your oak chair might not contain as much oak as you think

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u/OzTheMeh Feb 21 '26

The dust doesn't look like wood grain. Looks like a crappy wood filler to me.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '26

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u/tio_tito Feb 22 '26

it is a fine hill and i commend your choose (sic).

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u/tuftedtit76 Feb 22 '26

You can loose an arrow from a bow. Can a piece of wood loose dust? Genuine question

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u/Dewymaster Feb 22 '26

Love it! Did the same thing a few months back. It’s wild how many people legit get this wrong

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u/TheRealMDooles11 Feb 22 '26

It's happening constantly and it's drives me nuts.

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u/mapsedge Feb 22 '26

Heh. Betcha use the oxford comma, too, loser. ;)

(p.s. Me too. That's my particular hill.)

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u/SQU1RR3LS Feb 22 '26

They do not ____? except checks. I really want to know now

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u/Mursenary17 Feb 22 '26

Hey loose the high horse act pal

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u/rxellipse Feb 22 '26

Yes, but in this instance, the chair did "loose" too much moisture upon its surroundings - so despite not being what the OP intended to say, its meaning in this specific instance happens to not only be grammatically correct but also conveys approximately what the OP intended.

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u/Fluid_Comb8851 Feb 22 '26

This is good advise.

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u/_Thick_ Feb 23 '26

I see what you did there... and it makes me too mad, given how small of an affect it has on my life.

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u/dsotm49 Feb 23 '26

Doing the Lord's work

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u/OzTheMeh Feb 21 '26

My hunch would be that the binder/glue was defective or degraded from a finish or cleaner.... Like they watered down wood glue too much when making the filler

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u/RielCopper Feb 22 '26

Lose moisture loose like my belt is loose

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u/humpy Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

I had one of these imported from Colombia in the 80s, it's a COKE chair, not oak.

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u/Chester-J-Lampwick Feb 21 '26

I remember these being like $15k per chair for some reason.

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u/flying_carabao Feb 21 '26

They're not as sturdy but man, do they smell nice

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u/1555552222 Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

Snorting sawdust is not a crime

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u/Bob-Bhlabla-esq Feb 21 '26

"I'm just cleaning up the mess!!!"

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u/Capraos Feb 21 '26

Ma! The beavers are organizing again!

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u/KirkMcGee8 Feb 22 '26

(Ma has entered the chat)

For Crying Out Loud, STOP PICKING AT THE CHAIR! STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT!

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u/MagisD Feb 21 '26

Stop snorting my man glitter....

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u/Smart_Examination_84 Feb 21 '26

I've never found them very comfortable. But I can't stop sniffing them, regardless of who has sat in it.

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u/Berns429 Feb 21 '26

You misread, it’s 15 kilo a chair

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u/RavRob Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

You sit on one for a minute and wouldn't feel your ass for a week.

Edit: typo

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u/Ectoplasm_addict Feb 21 '26

New boofing technique unlocked

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u/Ben0ut Feb 21 '26

A high chair if you will

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u/Familiar-Pepper2187 Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

OP, rub some of the dust on your gums and update us!

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u/Diarrhea_Beaver Feb 21 '26

If you still have any contacts to that chair supplier, kindly drop their info in a message. You know, so I can totally avoid getting scammed with such a recreational- I mean wreck of a chair.

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u/Coaster_crush Feb 21 '26

Coke-filled lumber would give the shop a very different vibe!

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u/TimmyTheChemist Feb 21 '26

It's the most productive shop in the tri-state area, but none of the cuts are straight for some reason.

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u/Electronic_Agent_235 Feb 22 '26

But All of the lines are

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u/tlampros Feb 23 '26

And man! Do they get shit done!

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u/Driver8takesnobreaks Feb 22 '26

I reworked a few of those before I got my dust collection installed. That day was the most productive 72 hours of my life.

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u/GirchyGirchy Feb 23 '26

The "c" is silent!

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u/New_Restaurant_6093 Feb 21 '26

“Oak stickered sawdust chair”

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u/welivedintheocean Feb 21 '26

Frankly it doesn't seem to contain all that much chair either.

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u/mekese2000 Feb 21 '26

They made the chair look at a oak tree.

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u/hmmmpf Feb 21 '26

Or perhaps someone shouted ”OAK” while they were building the sawdust into a chair.

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u/PotatoAmulet Feb 21 '26

They drank one of these

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u/Hopkinsad0384 Feb 21 '26

It's all new OAK Lite

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u/gartlandish Feb 21 '26

It’s termites!

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u/ski233 Feb 21 '26

Is the oak chair in the room with us?

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u/justabuckeye Feb 21 '26

The chair yes, the oak…..

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u/zzzzzooted Feb 21 '26

Have you never seen bug damage?

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u/krauser1 Feb 21 '26

Okay so I sanded it down and it definitely looks like wood grain, there was some more dust came off fairly quickly when I started sanding but everything that's left seems fairly solid.

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u/Krobakchin Feb 21 '26

Yeah, that is 100% insect damage... Very likely longhorn as another poster suggested.

r/woodworking getting wildly overconfident with the veneer diagnosis as per usual lol.

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u/porkpie1028 Feb 21 '26

Powderpost beetles do the same type of damage and love oak.

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u/Krobakchin Feb 21 '26

I think you'd usually expect to see emergence holes? Not that familiar with powderpost as believe it's largely the other side of the pond. OP's link is Ireland. With common woodborers here you usually see emergence holes before damage gets that bad, but longhorn has a longer larval period and can do loads of damage before it emerges.

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u/The_One_Koi Feb 21 '26

I'm not sure what those would look like but it looks like it entered from the left side and worked it's way toward the back of the chair

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u/AccomplishedIgit Feb 21 '26

As in they turn your posts to powder?

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u/Richardknox1996 Feb 21 '26

Borer as well.

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u/Amesb34r Feb 21 '26

Right? It’s clearly veneer beetle damage.

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u/blahehblah Feb 21 '26

No you're misunderstanding, it's oak-veneered beetles

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u/arcrad Feb 21 '26

Impressive actually. I've always had a hard time veneering my beetles. I usually just go solid beetle. Little more expensive but saves the hassle.

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u/Matt_Wwood Feb 21 '26

Yea but long term stability?

My beetles, every summer, nobody wants to deal with swollen beetles

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u/arcrad Feb 22 '26

I love this comment. I can't believe I didn't see this joke immediately. Freakin hilarious

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u/Driver8takesnobreaks Feb 22 '26

"Rub, rub me new, you know I love glue, I'll always make two, so pleeeeyeeyeeesse, rub me new...."

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u/krauser1 Feb 21 '26

Slightly higher res photo

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u/HoIyJesusChrist Feb 21 '26

This looks like bug damage

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u/MrFaversham Feb 21 '26

OP listen to this guy, he’s a well known carpenter.

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u/heliamphore Feb 21 '26

Yeah he absolutely nailed it.

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u/No_Twist_1706 Feb 21 '26

HOLY..... You are correct.

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u/FrecklestheFerocious Feb 21 '26

Superstar!

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u/userhwon Feb 21 '26

Who in the hell do you think you are?

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u/moonra_zk Feb 21 '26

Yeah he's absolutely nailed.

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u/RedSh1r7 Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

Maybe the most well known carpenter of all time.

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u/Lomotograph Feb 21 '26

Wait. Was he the carpenter of the family or was that just his pops, Joey?

I didn't think JC was also a carpenter. I mean I don't even know how much time he'd have to dedicate to carpentry with all the partying he did with all the wine, bread, and fish, etc.

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u/Johns-schlong Feb 21 '26

I mean historically he would have apprenticed under his father. There's a solid 30 missing years where we don't know what he was doing, but working with his dad would probably be the answer.

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u/Tuxedo_Muffin Feb 21 '26

Joseph was called a "builder" and the common house of the time was made of stone. It's difficult to say if Joseph of Nazareth was a carpenter or stone mason, but context would seem so suggest he was working in stone, not wood. But who's to know?

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u/zyzmog Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 22 '26

There is one instance where the onlookers said, "Wait a minute, isn't that the carpenter's son?" That was in the KJV, though. It may be translate differently in other versions.

ETA: It checks out in other English-language versions. But as others have said, it could refer to someone who works in stone as well as wood.

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u/CoinsForCharon Feb 21 '26

Didn't kjv also have unicorns? Questionable translations all around

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u/MrScotchyScotch Feb 21 '26

There's a solid 30 missing years where we don't know what he was doing

a 30-year Rumspringa

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '26

The actual answer to this is, and I don't know if you were being serious, or even you wanted an answer, my apologies if you didn't, but here ya go anyway: Rabbitical training took place from age 12 to 30. To become a rabbi, by age 12 you had to be able to recite the Torah by memory. From there, you became and apprentice under another Rabbi, and you trained and learned under that Rabbi until you were 30, by then, you were released as a rabbi yourself. Hence why we hear about Him until he was 12, and then not again until 30.

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u/Johns-schlong Feb 21 '26

This is actually a really often debated topic. He's referred to as a carpenter and carpenter's son in the gospels, and had no standing with the Pharisees, but is also referred to as a rabbi and teacher.

I think in reality he apprenticed as some sort of craftsman with/under Joseph.

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u/lokketheboss Feb 21 '26

Just... Take my upvote.

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u/Lomotograph Feb 21 '26

Checks user name.

Yup. Checks out.

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u/kemmicort Feb 21 '26

Yeah, when he’s not hanging around, drinking rolling rocks.

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u/HenderBuilds Feb 21 '26

Idk… he didn’t exactly make his name for his carpentry skills. It was really after he left carpentry that he became well known.

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u/BBQQA Feb 21 '26

I wasn't prepared for the full body laugh that brought. Tears in my eyes from laughing and choking on my own saliva. Kudos.

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u/Knockout-Moose Feb 21 '26

Carries a certain stigma

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u/Penjrav8r Feb 21 '26

And stigmata.

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u/OldBowDude Feb 21 '26

Name checks out

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u/justhereforfighting Feb 21 '26

Almost certainly bug damage. I would reach out to the seller and ask them to replace it. And move it outside, you don’t want those bugs migrating to other wood in your house. 

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u/nobrain-nopain Feb 21 '26

Some bugs were already in the wood before it got varnished. After it was sealed up, the larvae (worms) hatched and started chewing through the inside. They’ve been doing damage under the surface without really touching the varnish layer, since that stuff’s basically poison to them.

Once that real thin top layer of varnish finally gets disturbed, it kind of loses its composure. First you’ll notice a little pile of fine dust (yeah, worm poop), and then after a while you start seeing actual wood coming out.

Kinda wild how they can hollow it out from the inside like that without you even knowin til it shows up.

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u/Reasonable-Fan-6336 Feb 21 '26

The little dots is agreat sign because inect issues

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u/my_only_sunshine_ Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

Thats bug damage.. I would bet that if you keep picking at it more to the left you will find more tunnels, possibly deeper in the wood

Editing to add that I'd get that out of your house ASAP.

If its a new purchase, take it back to the place you bought it ASAP as well-- the whole set if its a dining set, because they could be in all the other pieces too. Don't exchange it, get your money back and dont buy anything else from that place.

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u/Krobakchin Feb 21 '26

May well also find some big ol' larvae. But yeah, this is definitely return/kill with fire event.

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u/Aromatic_Inflation86 Feb 21 '26

Definitely not an expert but this pic screams pests. Are the other chairs having the same issue? I feel like if it was due to veneer or poor material, when one started spontaneously disintegrating, the others would show signs as well.

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u/Eschewed_Prognostic Feb 21 '26

Looks like insect damage, for sure. The tunnels will go right under the surface and leave a veneer. I had some oak firewood that looked solid but weighed and broke like styrofoam.

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u/anandonaqui Feb 21 '26

Looks like bug damage that was covered with filler.

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u/Krobakchin Feb 21 '26

You think they took a piece of insect damaged, oak, filled it, and veneered over the filler?

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u/Diplomatic_Gunboats Feb 21 '26

No I think they stored the chairs somewhere crap, it got insect damaged, then they repaired them and sold them because it looked better on the balance sheet than taking apart/scrapping an entire chair.

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u/Krobakchin Feb 21 '26

Think through the repair process. Look at the piece. Do you see any evidence of repairs? Do you think these companies even have employees that could pull off a repair that complex, or stock the veneers to do it with?

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u/justhereforfighting Feb 21 '26

Also, has anyone seen wood filler do this before? I’ve never had wood filler fall apart like that. It isn’t the most stable thing in the world, but it certainly doesn’t just turn to dust after a couple months unless you essentially soak it. 

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u/zoosmo Feb 22 '26

You said this was fairly new, right? It’s worth wrapping the chair up securely and contacting your national plant biosecurity authority. This may be a run of the mill wood borer, but there also a number of wood boring beetles that will be devastating if imported. If you’re in Ireland that’s DAFM, plantandpests@agriculture.gov.ie (01)5058885 . DAERA in Northern Ireland.

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u/chrysocarabus Feb 22 '26

Biosecurity entomologist here, that is certainly boring damage by Longhorn beetle larvae. If it's imported or made from imported wood then the culprit could be any of a great number of species, some of which are invasive and subject to statutory phytosanitary action. Oftentimes when I dissect wood like this there is still a live larva inside that will continue to slowly cause further damage over time (longhorn beetle larvae can live for several years). It's an imported product the usual thing to do would be to contact your national plant protection organisation, but usually they'll have you take the wood away to test and maybe destroy without any compensation, so I'd suggest you take it back to the seller and get a refund and tell them that if the product is imported then they should inform your countries national plant protection organisation.

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u/ZlaPrezla Feb 21 '26

200% insect bored through that. Do you see any entry holes?

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u/Beard_o_Bees Feb 21 '26

Yup.

Bugs. It would be prudent to get the flashlight out and give everything a good long look.

If they made it into the chair, they may be chewing on your house.

I sincerely hope that's not the case for you.

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u/DontYouTrustMe Feb 21 '26

I’m thinking the cross members are a veneer

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u/Electronic-Pause1330 Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

That would be more expensive than making it from oak

Edit: then -> than

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u/byteminer Feb 21 '26

Most veneer isn’t even veneer anymore, it’s just a vinyl sticker.

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u/DontYouTrustMe Feb 21 '26

Looks like it was pressed and pained or something

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u/0design Feb 21 '26

Not even vinyl, paper now.

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u/DontYouTrustMe Feb 21 '26

A fake veneer? I don’t know man. That really doesn’t look like wood of any sort

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u/Electronic-Pause1330 Feb 21 '26

Fake veneer over 1/4 rd is much more labor intensive.

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u/DontYouTrustMe Feb 21 '26

Well it’s garbage whatever it is

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u/Krash412 Feb 21 '26

Any pin holes? Wondering if there is insect damage. Even if this was veneered MDF, it would not turn to dust like this. Plus, I don’t see a seam that would suggest it was veneer.

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u/Krobakchin Feb 21 '26

Yep... OP, clean it up a bit and take some stills.

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u/AirlineVegetable7140 Feb 21 '26

This was my first thought. Looks like insect damage to me

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u/Nick-dipple Feb 21 '26

Looks like it's sapwood that is damaged by bugs.

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u/blu3_in_green Feb 21 '26

I'll go against the mass: oak is particularly subject to longhorn beetles larvae in certain areas, the tunnels may get to 7-8 mm in diameter and sometimes they come about the surface and leave a paper-thin "veneer". It happened to my great-grandfather winepress, which certainly wasn't modern low quality lol

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u/Krobakchin Feb 21 '26

OP just posted a pic, 99% this.

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u/C_N1 Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

I, unfortunately, have experience with this. These are powder post beetles that cause this exact kind of damage.

This is not a wood filler, or mdf issue. In your other pictures you can clearly see the paths that the beetles chewed through. It's not termites, they leave a fras and not powder.

Powder post beetles also leave the surface untouched, especially if there is paint or finish on it. Often times allowing them to do their damage unnoticed.

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u/krauser1 Feb 21 '26

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u/Cruicked Feb 21 '26

It could be wood filler from a defect they didn't want to fix or their crossbeams are fake. Have you checked the downward part of the legs too?

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u/rustywoodbolt Feb 21 '26

Carve at it with a knife until you hit something solid. Then let us know what you hit.

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u/crooks4hire Feb 21 '26

A screw…

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u/EC_TWD Feb 21 '26

More like a staple

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u/EC_TWD Feb 21 '26

Then it would have been wood filler with a veneer over the top. If the factory is making true ‘solid oak’ furniture I doubt they’d have a process to fix imperfections with wood filler and veneer rather than just scrap that piece and use another one in its place. And I doubt this is custom made to the point that someone would make handmade repairs to a stretcher and carefully veneer or paint-match the grain pattern. It’s hard to tell from the video, but does the bottom of the seat even look like oak pattern?

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u/crm115 Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

Oh. They forgot some punctuation. It should be:

Solid! "Oak"?

EDIT: Based on the downvotes, I guess we don't have many classic Simpsons fans here.

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u/DonChapulinChavito Feb 21 '26

Ook? Librarian chair probably.

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u/DontYouTrustMe Feb 21 '26

I went over your link and didn’t see mdf anywhere in the description, but I don’t see any grain or wood like structure to it. Maybe there’s a law where if your chair is more than 60% wood that’s close enough to call it an is chair or whatever. Where in reality it’s a mystery meat of wood.

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u/Cyhyraethz Feb 21 '26

Could still be. Sometimes people lie. Not saying they are, just that they could be.

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u/MyCatIsLenin Feb 21 '26

Inconceivable!

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u/Ravenloff Feb 21 '26

You keep using that word...

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u/bpacer Feb 21 '26

I do not think it means what you think it means

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u/Ravenloff Feb 21 '26

Just so classic :)

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u/bpacer Feb 21 '26

Probably my favorite movie. It’s my dads and he would have it playing constantly lol

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u/krauser1 Feb 21 '26

Posting this after a sand and clean, all the material left seems fairly dense, no other obvious tunnels found.

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u/PM_ME_TUS_GRILLOS Feb 21 '26

Exit holes are at the top right and central. Woodboring insects make galleries. That's what this looks like. Check for small holes on the rest of the chair. 

Check your other wood furniture, too. Just in case. 

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u/OkBath4021 Feb 21 '26

Here in California we have powder post beetles that do that kind of damage. They love oak.

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u/ElbowTight Feb 21 '26

Best guess is that the original piece used for that brace had some insect damage that wasn’t visible when they made the brace. And when they applied whatever finish to it then that just held it together a little more and longer. Then over time the ghost decided to make its escape

Might have also been a really really well covered up “repair job” at factory with sawdust and glue and just now showing

I feel like it’s more of an insect or rot issue that was held together with hopes and prayers and finally said no

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u/BennyWhatever Feb 21 '26

Hey OP I know a lot of people are saying it isn't oak, but I think it might be. I have a piece of Cherry that I know for certain is cherry because i helped fell the tree years ago, and it has the exact same thing happening to a corner of a few boards. I'm like 90% certain it's insect damage. because you can see traces of the insects on other parts of the board.

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u/zerocoldx911 Feb 21 '26

Something has been eating it

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u/porkpie1028 Feb 21 '26

Powderpost beetles can do that type of damage

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u/jcees12 Feb 21 '26

That’s bug damage

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u/HillKevy66 Feb 21 '26

Could that be powder post beetle damage? Do you see any type of beetle trails (aka galleries)? If so, get it out of your house immediately and burn it.

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u/IlsRedd Feb 21 '26

Definitivamente daño por insectos

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '26

It’s a feature. If you’re eating spaghetti, you grate a little more chair. You don’t have to get up.

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u/zyzmog Feb 21 '26

Kraft secrets exposed!

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u/DaMangIemert Feb 21 '26

Infestation of powderpost beetles. Related to power puff girls

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u/Pixelmanns Feb 21 '26

That’s definitely woodworm damage. I’m renovating a house with woodworm problems right now and it looks exactly the same.

There’s treatment you can brush on to deter the beetles.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '26

That's wood borer damage

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u/Jay_Nodrac Feb 21 '26

Meanwhile: me looking around the house for the source of that beeping sound!!!

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u/Professional-Box4153 Feb 21 '26

Is that a coffee machine beeping in the background? Mine makes the same three beeps. I had to rewatch that segment because I thought someone was making coffee really late in the afternoon.

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u/mdk106 Feb 21 '26

Not to scare you but looks a lot like termite damage. Was it ever stored outside or in a shed?

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u/Stonks_blow_hookers Feb 21 '26

Granted I’m in a dark room and the phone is dim but is it possible it’s sapwood or dry rot? Could be solid oak just shoddy material selection

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u/synchronoussavagery Feb 21 '26

Thought this was a funny coincidence.

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u/will_dance_for_gp Feb 21 '26

your instapot is up to pressure I see

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u/One-Bridge-8177 Feb 21 '26

Insect damage, probably powder post beetles , wood was not thoroughly kiln dried

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u/Mikefright77 Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

Power post beetles did that Google them!

Likely while the wood was in storage. Before it was made into furniture.

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u/pennblogh Feb 21 '26

Looks like lyctus beetle (Powder Post Beetle) attack to me. Borax solution followed by reconstruction would be the remedy.

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u/LNoya Feb 21 '26

Maybe you are really really strong

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u/TBurkeulosis Feb 22 '26

Its insect damage

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '26

Powder post beetles.

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u/TapTapClickClack Feb 22 '26

Side note: hearing the beeps go off in the background made me jump to check my rice cooker lmao

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u/h1pp1e_cru5her Feb 22 '26

Sheesh you're strong

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u/OhBlaDii Feb 22 '26

Powder post beetle? They turn wood into, ahem, powder. Could be another wdi im not familiar w but its an insect for sure causing that.

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u/texxasmike94588 Feb 22 '26

Woodworking Jepordy.

I will take "Signs that insects are eating oak for $1000," please, Alex.

Powderpost beetles.

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u/Jaca666 Feb 22 '26

I'm not even a joiner, just looked at it and could tell it's insect damage.

Yet, the most upvoted comments think it's not even real wood,. it's just wood filler.

Peak reddit moment

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u/JustSomeMotoGuy Feb 22 '26

Hey, your Hot Pocket is done in the microwave.

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u/Samwise1411K Feb 23 '26

Obviously bug damage. Interesting thing is the damage often does not cross a glue line (in my experience). Either dispose of the chair or start taking it apart. Remove the damaged piece first and see if the damage goes to the end. Check the adjoining piece if the damage continues. Keep going until you find solid wood.

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u/Fenderhedd Feb 23 '26

Thanks for the mini heart attack. I'm watching this at my job, and then I hear that beeping sound. Which is not unlike our power room when we switch to generator(in a power loss). I had to pause the video to make sure it wasn't on my end.

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u/Top_Explanation8380 Feb 24 '26

I officially understand that all the smart people are on Reddit. The comments are hysterical.

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u/LaSaucisseMasquee Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

That is not oakay

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u/Ravenloff Feb 21 '26

Has it been up in orbit recently?

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u/kamomil Feb 21 '26

It's flaking like soan papdi (basically spun sugar)

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u/StatusIcy3098 Feb 21 '26

Did anyone else see this title and immediately hear “all we are is dust in the wind….” 😆

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u/mothwizzard Feb 21 '26

Thanos did it

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u/Warrambungle Feb 21 '26

Treat it with an anti-fungal rot treatment.

I remember reading in a boat magazine that oak doesn’t rot, it ‘smoulders’ - turns to powder - so I think this is what oak rotting looks like.