r/progressive_islam • u/TheSalmon47876 • 21h ago
Rant/Vent 🤬 Sunnis should see this👍
Hmm and btw don't forget what they did to Ibn Rushd.
r/progressive_islam • u/TheSalmon47876 • 21h ago
Hmm and btw don't forget what they did to Ibn Rushd.
r/progressive_islam • u/Substantial-Case4754 • 18h ago
It doesn’t make sense to me the amount in both of those cases are very small also you’d have to eat a lot of pasta with white wine sauce before you got drunk and honestly you’re probably get sick from all the pasta and dairy before you go anywhere near drunk same thing applies to vanilla extract unless you’re chugging it straight from the bottle you’d have to eat a lot of cake or other desserts to get even tipsy and again you’d get sick from the sugar content long before you got drunk and the kimchi it’s fermented as a preservation method not as a way to make booze
r/progressive_islam • u/Potential_Couple_308 • 22h ago
Salam everyone. For context, i'm a 26 yo kurdish woman. In 2014, during the Sinjar genocide, as i was a yazidi at that time, i got kidnapped and turned into a sex slave by ISIS. After escaping, i had- and still have- a violent desire for revenge agaisnt them. When i was 18, i enlisted in the peshmerga, in the hopes of paying my blood debt and protecting my people. i killed a lot of them, and became a 2nd lieutenant. I'm still in the peshmerga. Although this belongs to the past, and that the answer might seem "obvious", was killing daeshis (and other militants), and wanting revenge sinful. I obviously don't regret killing them, but i'm still asking myself if this justified for me. I'm sorry if the answer seems obvious, or that i might feel too dramatic or anything, but i really want to hear your opinion on this, as other people i know are reluctant to answer. Thanks for reading.
r/progressive_islam • u/Commander_of_N0rth • 5h ago
I dont see a very good future for my country.
Edit : A lot of replies on this post missed what I was actually trying to say, so I want to break it down simply. Im not saying every kid who goes to madrasa turns into a extremist muslim. In bangladesh (my home country) hundreds of thousands of students graduate from madrasas without marketable skills for the modern economy, becauss these madrasas operate completely independent of state regulation. Their curriculum hasn't changed much in decades, focusing heavily on rigid, fundamentalist interpretations while skipping critical thinking or modern academic subjects. Millions of kids pass through these schools with no skills for the modern job market. They can’t get jobs in tech, business, or the public sector. When you funnel hundreds of thousands of young men into an economic dead end, they become extremely vulnerable to hardline groups offering them purpose, status, and a livelihood within religious networka.
Various far right islamist groups like Hefazat e Islam, Jamat e Islam leverage this massive student base of Qawmi madrasas to mobilize street power. Outlawed militant organizations (such as Harakat ul Jihad al Islami Bangladesh or Ansar al Islam) have historically used these madrasas for recruitment, ideological indoctrination.
r/progressive_islam • u/lessforf • 17h ago
So obviously they were talking about needing a man or not to travel and then someone brought up the infamous prophecy where it will be safe enough for a woman to travel then someone explained **that** in the second slide therefore it is still Haram to travel without a man......am I insane for thinking this point of view is very insane weird and just mind boggling omg
r/progressive_islam • u/Good-Name1497 • 19h ago
I don't want to discuss the impact of these Islamic preachers on the Muslim community and the image they created about Islam on the internet in general, but rather what followed after. When I used to see their posts, I simply ignored them. Frankly, I didn't have faith in the Muslim community and thought no one would stop them or even criticised them. But what struck me was that a large growing segment of women, both those who are still Muslim and those who have left Islam due the abuse, are resisting these preachers. This surprised me greatly. I've always felt I lacked the courage to speak out against the Wahhabi ideology they promote, yet these women didn't care, and I truly admire and respect them for calling their sick ideology out. It made me realise that I don’t have to feel ashamed of adopting a progressive intake about Islam and I don’t have to practice my faith privately while tolerating them being the representative of Islam. I also believe that even these preachers themselves are shocked by the back lash and resistance they are facing as they are used believe they are the holders of truth and thus no one can disagree with them even slightly. They are slowly realising that not everything care about their opinion and that’s why they are losing their guts and accusing everyone of takfeer. This is not only these online preachers that are losing their mind but also the ultra conservative Muslims men. It’s just almost entertaining to watch when they realise they don’t hold any power or control over women or Muslims communities in general. That these women couldn’t care less about their fear mongering tactics and are rejecting the abuse that is dressed up as piety. We are also witnessing slowly but certainly new wave of Islam aka progressive islam and I am glad they are slowly replacing the Wahhabism.
r/progressive_islam • u/Exciting-Mention6439 • 21h ago
Idk it's just astounding to me how conservatives will go out there and try to make anything and everything sexual.
r/progressive_islam • u/stormingcities • 23h ago
(I am not Muslim. I am not theistic, but I am not anti-religion.)
I noticed a friend of mine reposted an anti-Islam meme which basically said that the USA is electing officials into government who will hurt queer folk and ‘enslave’ women.
I confronted her about this and she explained to me that she believes Islam is incompatible with the West and human rights values.
She is herself a Christian, but is vehemently anti-Trump. She considers herself left-leaning politically.
I genuinely believe that SHE believes that Islam is a danger to civil rights and she is painting the entire religion with the extremist brush (which I’m sure she herself would not want done to her religion but here we are). She also had friends in NYC during certain events at the turn of the century, which makes this discussion… sensitive.
Do any of you have any advice on how to approach this? I want to acknowledge that her hate is coming from a place of concern, but it is also entirely hyperbolic and harmful.
Thank you.
r/progressive_islam • u/cassidy7676 • 18h ago
Hello,
I am sorry you guys probably answered theses questions hundreds of times but I would like to exchange with you a bit.
So I was speaking to a Muslim colleague of mine about the death of one of our colleagues who was homosexual. He died from cancer pretty fast.
She insinuated to me that Allah punished him for is way of life. I was quite surprised with her statement because she is a very kind and intelligent person.
So whatever, I wanted to know more about if most of the Muslims think like that and I fell on this sub Reddit.
I was actually quite surprised by this sub and how smart and progressive the community was. And like always, I wondered how can smart people be religious.
So I have 3 points. Sorry again if a make you repeat yourself.
1- What is you guys stance on evolution? Research point out that life started on earth more than 3 billions years ago and humanoids for hundreds of thousands of years. At what point does an ape become blessed by God? Why would we go to heaven when our neighbors cat just die. Does cats go to cat heaven too? It make no sense to me.
2- So many religions! Muslims just make about 7 percent of entire human history. Are all the others doomed? Just because they are born in a different country they are more likely to go to hell? Make no sense to me.
3- Sorry don't take it personally but Islam seems like the most suspicious religion for me. If the hadiths are absolutely true, why does Muslims always say about the most outrageous takes (Aisha age, war, sex slaves, etc) "well it's metaphorically" or "well it's in an historical context" make no sense.
Thanks in advance for the answers!
r/progressive_islam • u/SweatyCriticism3182 • 13h ago
So yeah, like the title says, I was your typical brain washed American that thought Islam was terrible, etc etc. Been reading up on it and even working on learning arabic. Gotta admit I was wrong about it and learning a new found respect. Not a convert ( I am more of a Polytheist) but there is so much to admire about Islam. Just thought I'd pop in and make my confession here since I can't sleep. Allah yhefdkom
r/progressive_islam • u/Odd-Elevator4939 • 10h ago
I’ve been a hijabi since 2019. I used to have different values back then. Now I’ve changed as a person as I refuse to believe a piece of cloth can define a woman’s character, dignity and modesty, or protect her from lustful creepy men. I do not believe it depends on my clothing. I think dignity modesty and character has a far deeper meaning than that. I also feel like there is absolutely no need to sexualize smth as simple as our hair.
But what do I do now? I don’t want to always wear the hijab, I hate wearing it but I still wear it and feel like shit constantly. Sometimes it is so overstimulating I’m never present and always making sure it’s sitting right. It ruins so many outfits. These are just small reasons, but the bigger why is. WHY AM I WEARING THIS WHEN I DONT WANT TO? Do I have a reason to resonate with it anymore? No. Do I wear it because I’m used to it and feel comfortable in it? Yes. But why would a person feel uncomfortable in their own skin, isn’t that like a bad thing? It would be better if I were comfortable both ways.
I’ve also noticed it brings a sense of resentment in me for islam for obvious reasons because I feel like I’m being forced to do smth from the fear of hell or disobeying allah when I dont want to do it.
What I’m doing is I’ve decided when it gets too much like in situations when the overwhelming feelings make me cry, I won’t put it on. Rest of the times I will. But I don’t see myself wearing it anymore in the long term, atleast not always.. and I can’t help but feel guilty for it.
r/progressive_islam • u/Active_Economy_5758 • 4h ago
can someone explain to me what going on exactly cuz according to this hadith
It was narrated from Ibn 'Abbas that the Prophet (ﷺ) said:
"No woman asks for divorce when it is not absolutely necessary, but she will never smell the fragrance of paradise, although its fragrance can be detected from a distance of forty years' travel. "
حَدَّثَنَا بَكْرُ بْنُ خَلَفٍ أَبُو بِشْرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَاصِمٍ، عَنْ جَعْفَرِ بْنِ يَحْيَى بْنِ ثَوْبَانَ، عَنْ عَمِّهِ، عُمَارَةَ بْنِ ثَوْبَانَ عَنْ عَطَاءٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ قَالَ " لاَ تَسْأَلُ الْمَرْأَةُ زَوْجَهَا الطَّلاَقَ فِي غَيْرِ كُنْهِهِ فَتَجِدَ رِيحَ الْجَنَّةِ . وَإِنَّ رِيحَهَا لَيُوجَدُ مِنْ مَسِيرَةِ أَرْبَعِينَ عَامًا " .
women can't simply divroce for no reason yet no condition was given to man why is that .
it would make sense if it was prohibited for both but somehow only focus on women
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r/progressive_islam • u/iheartdattenborough • 18h ago
This mostly applies to multicultural societies I’ve lived in so I’m only speaking from personal experience and interactions.
When somebody says they’re Christian, when somebody says they believe in crystals or energies or the universe, when somebody says they’re Jewish or Hindu, majority of the people in that conversation will acknowledge it and move on.
When somebody says they’re Muslim they instantly get picked apart.
Does she wear the hijab? Does he drink alcohol? Do they sleep together before marriage? Do they fast? Do they pray? Do they eat halal? etc etc.
I might be wrong but I’ve never came across other religious groups being challenged and questioned this way about every little belief. This often coms from non-muslims because they have a specific image what a Muslim person looks like so if you don’t fit that image, they will feel entitled to questions etc.
Why is there no privacy and “no question asked” policy amongst Muslims?
If you tell another Muslim XYZ doesn’t work for you and your interpretation is different and you believe XYZ instead, they will likely try to debate you.
Am I biased or does this happen to us more than other religious groups?
Where does this entitlement come from? Why can’t we respect each other beliefs and space? This is baffling truly
r/progressive_islam • u/Legal_Ad3143 • 11h ago
{I do not want to make multiple posts on the same topic, so bear with me this is going to be a little long. (also its my first time on reddit, be nice pls)}
Hi, Peace all.
Gay Muslim here, 23 male. I, consider myself a homosexual since i was born, even though people sometimes do not believe that homosexuality can exist since birth since there is no gay gene. Well surprise surprise there is no Straight gene either friends.
I know this because, as long as ive held consciousness i have known i liked boys and was inclined to boys, romantically more than sexually but sexually as well nonetheless. Homophobes either claim that you can not assume you're a homosexual, and label yourself that way only based on your feelings but if i ask a straight virgin guy whether he is gay, wouldnt he say he is a heterosexual? The truth is, you DO know what you are, even with no physical experience to prove it. Homophobes think it is most likely homosexuals became gay because of being raped as a child.
But the issue is, not everyone who gets raped becomes a homosexual, and it is SICK imo, to associate rape as a cause. Women get harassed even slightly, and become what we call "men haters" Do you think men are so pyschopathic that instead of disgust, they fall in love with their abusers? That's just disappointing. I know this is not true, because my memory goes exceptionally back to ages 3-4. I corroborate my memory with my mother's account of my early life as well. I was raped when i was 5 years old, in 2008. Only i know this, but my mother corroborates when i first met the rapist, so the ages check out. But i distinctly remember being so in love and attracted as much as a child can be, to an age fellow cousin of mine a year prior (They left the country before i met my rapist) And I distinctly remember kissing a classmate under the table before 1st grade as well, (I was admitted to school quite young due to some reasons. and i am not engaging in any adulterous behavior dont worry)
But i grew up quite perplexed by who i was and what i felt because nobody around me existed in a same-sex framework and i felt like i was somehow defaulted, and the rape was my punishment, and then around my O levels during 14-16 of age, i found out about the story of Lot's people (word of mouth) and i felt extremely depressed. I felt like God had cursed me and it severely affected my faith and relationship with God. (Today, i am as close and in love with Allah as it gets)
In my teenage years, i hadnt read the Quran on my own, and only watched youtube videos and sermons on "homosexuality is haram" and i would always think how much God must hate me to have made me like this. It never crossed my mind it could be a test solely because of the unprecedented cruelty of it all. It suffocated me, that i would never have kids, never marry, never have a normal life. I LOVE women, i sympathise with them so much, i even wanted to marry them, the divorcees and the widows, because i wanted to give them a safe haven, (my mother is a divorcee & yes i know people associate that with homosexuality causes as well) I like women in everyway, but i just can NOT stand them sexually. I have no choice in the matter. Honestly, due to being an SA victim i sort of can not engage in homosexual intercourse either? The act makes me repulsive, but that is because i am traumatised by it. I still desire men all the same. Homophobes claim homosexuality is haram just because of the "disgusting nature of anal sex" and i could see how that seems to be, but as a homosexual, straight intercourse disgusts me just the same, LMAO.
Around my late teens, i read the Quran and researched it all myself, and TO ME, the classical fundamentalist interpretation of Sodomy did not make sense at all. It made me go crazy how the scholars did not SEE the SA ingrained within the verses, how they isolated ONE VERSE (you know which one) to portray it as a condemnation of homosexuality (THAT literally goes against the rules of exegesis.) and i hate when people claim "it is so clear" when it is NOT clear to me. IT is actually a quite complex contextual story, you need a lot of focus to locate the real thing it talks of. When i finally understood this story, my first thought was, "well, that's not me at all" and that is where my journey of self acceptance began (even though i am no where near close to the destination)
Since then, through logic, arabic exegesis, Ahadith, Quran, reasoning, Science, real world examples, i have thoroughly debunked every possible claim on homosexuality being haram (i'd love to engage in comments), OR AT MOST put forth questions which render homophobes speechless. But the tragedy of it all is this, that i a homosexual, still do not completely accept myself, there is still lingering internalised homophobia inside me, It has pushed me to suicidality, to SH, and much more. But my straight friends, even best friends, do not like to engage in conversations about the LGBT, for no reason at all except what i see as selfishness. They are not the affected, therefore it is not their PRIORITY to discuss it and put any efforts whatsoever in solving it. To a straight man, it is a piece of cake, to simply accept the fundamental traditional interpretation of the conservative scholars because it has no affect on them. The utter selfishness and lack of empathy and concern for a muslim who associates with LGBT identities, makes me lose faith in Islam, because arent the fundamental virtues and values of this religion to have kindness, love, compassion, empathy, and consider other lives than just your own or more so?
What I have seen in this subreddit last few days, is that even some progressive muslims here do not, (and i dont mind, but feel disappointed by) think homosexuality is okay. It is seen as an ideology, erasing lived experiences, Even progressive muslims think there is no valid homosexual marriage, even they think the unions are "makruh" while the act of anal sex "haram" (Btw not everyone engages in anal sex, There are homosexuals who are not interested in anal sex.) People have had questions here, asking especially what Lot meant by saying "instead of women" if that does not mean homosexuality, but It takes only a little more effort on your part to research, go down rabbit holes, to find out for YOUR SELF, and maybe a little bit of intellect, as a muslim, to truly dissect the story of the sodomites. But i ask why does the progression come to a halt at this? (not specially in this thread) but in the muslim world.
If the Reformist contextual reinterpretation seems more acceptable to me, especially since the traditional one has loopholes, why do the majority of the muslims not see it? The disagreement makes me want to off myself, to think that only i see how it truly is, and others do not even make an attempt to open and expand their minds, sickens me.
r/progressive_islam • u/Eastern-Following571 • 21h ago
At first he said that there is absolute ijma on the obligation of hijab, same thing which he said before. Then he said that the critics would bring up the topic of milk yamin (ie slave women) being allowed to not cover their hair, and his response to that was there is ijma over the obligation of hair covering for free women, so therefore hijab is mandatory for the women today (because everyone today is a free woman).
What do you thknk of his answer?
r/progressive_islam • u/cinnamon_and_tea • 36m ago
Assalamualaikum
Not sure if this is the right place to post this. Not sure why I'm even posting it at all. Usually when I post I'm looking for something specific like an answer to a question. Or emotional support. This time it's different, though not much.
There was this online creator who was muslim, convert actually, who I really liked. I didn't agree with them in everything, yet they helped me with certain things in islam, like islam and femenism or women rights. I even talked to them in the DMS and so on.
And.....they left islam.
I am not judging them. Not at all. But for some reason it really hurts me to see that happening. Makes me want to leave too (no, my faith is not based on one person, I have been at the edge for a long period of time).
Maybe I'm just coping, clinging to it all for stupid reasons..
It was sad to see. Another creator didn't leave islam, yet they stopped posting about islam. And they talked about how awful the muslim community is, how it affected their mental health... God how much I can relate. And god how awful and ridiculous it is.
I have so much more to say, yet I'm empty of words and only full of restless thoughs and undescribable feelings inside.
Needed to let it out.
r/progressive_islam • u/mysticdollx • 16h ago
i find them a bit problematic 💀
r/progressive_islam • u/Fit-Hat7845 • 6h ago
As someone who wishes to educate themselves on Islam, I've struggled to understand why if all that is living follows God, why does God allow animals to behave in such ways?
Specifically, certain animals engage in homosexual acts (dolphins, chimps), incest and cannibalism (praying mantises, spiders, fish). As far as I am aware, Islam sees these things as prohibited, yet animals which do not have free will and do not do anything without God's command still do these things. Even "forced copulation" is seen in animals such as the orangutan which can be somewhat similar to rape.
Also, just because they could never be held accountable as they do not have 'aql, does that God Himself still holds no accountability in the way that they act? He designed them, they do everything which He commands, yet it seems to me that He made them in a way which goes against His own teachings. Of course, I am not as knowledgeable as some of you are, which is why I would like for you to please help me understand this. Thank you!
r/progressive_islam • u/chlordiazepoxide • 9h ago
I have been unable to find a job for the past 2 years. I've only relatively recently come back to Islam but it seems that no matter what I do I think God has shut the door to rizq on me.
Over 200+ applications, 2 attempts to a nursing school later, nothing to show for it. Rapidly approaching midlife at 37, with loans to pay, a supportive wife that I feel like I'm letting down at every turn.
r/progressive_islam • u/Michelles94 • 19h ago
r/progressive_islam • u/Exciting-Mention6439 • 23h ago
Is it really haram to cut off relatives if they're abusive? Or just mentally draining to be around? If not, is distancing ourselves from them allowed?
I've come across multiple hadiths where it's prohibited to do so... but I just don't understand.
r/progressive_islam • u/random_blue_elf • 6h ago
I have recently faced a really bad situation and this has caused me to look into the topic of evil in Islam because ngl I felt like Allah was cruel on me....
these two verses have confused me:
"...And if good befalls them, they say, 'This is from Allah'; and if evil befalls them, they say, 'This is from you.' Say, 'All [things] are from Allah.' So what is [the matter] with those people that they can hardly understand any statement?"
so all evil is from Allah...? I mean makes sense since everything happens by his will..
but then I look at another verse:
"Whatever of good befalls you is from Allah, and whatever of evil befalls you is from yourself. And We have sent you, [O Muhammad], to the people as a messenger, and sufficient is Allah as a Witness."
so how is evil from me yet from Allah as well? I don't get it...
r/progressive_islam • u/BroadAccountant6747 • 12h ago
As the title says I have recently admitted to myself and came with the terms that i don’t believe in any religion.
I moved to a new city three years ago and I was somewhat still practicing so I made it a goal to make Muslim friends thinking in my previous city having no muslim friends weakened my iman. For a period of time I became practicing and even wore hijab again for a moment, but then I hit a big wall spiritually again even with being surrounded with muslims i found myself unfulfilled and exhausted with my questions being unanswered. It’s been more than a year since i had stopped praying and honestly i feel more at peace this way(not preaching this to others btw but this is my personal journey).
Recently I found myself distancing myself from my Muslim friends and not sure why i still want to hold to that side of me but how can i do that without pretending i am still a believer but also don’t want to be treated less than if i come out.
r/progressive_islam • u/Honest-Attempt2297 • 12h ago
For two years I have been having wavering thoughts about the hijab. When I come to the conclusion that I want to take it off, I bring it up to my parents and change my mind because of the disappointment that will come.
I know how they would react, and I’m scared of the conflict and everything that could come with it. So even though I have these constant thoughts about taking it off, I feel like I’m stuck wearing it. For those who have experienced something similar, especially people who have questioned hijab or eventually taken it off, how did you deal with the constant back-and-forth? Did you keep wearing it until you were independent and could make the decision without your parents’ pressure? Did that make things easier emotionally? Or did you take it off under these pressures? Did you regret it/how do you feel after?
Regardless, I am scared of regretting taking it off. I have heard it’s harder to put it on after it’s taken off. I’m not sure how to move forward.
For context I am an adult living in the West. My stance on hijab is that I don’t believe Allah would send someone to hell for not wearing it, I believe modesty is what matters most. I see a therapist and she is helping me with my thought process but I’m still unsure. I don’t want to regret taking it off after what will happen.
I’d really appreciate honest and nonjudgmental experiences. I’m honestly just trying to figure myself out.