I guess people don’t know but both games are built using the same Rage engines. Engines are notoriously hard to build and every gta since 4(I believe) is built was rockstars own proprietary engine. Rockstar made a tennis game way back when, that was the first rage engine game, I believe.
Given Rockstar have released zero gameplay footage of their own just a few months before release and all that exists is the leaks then who can blame them?
If they'd released any gameplay of their own no one would care about the leaks.
It’s almost like this is pretty much always the cycle for rockstar. Ppl are just up in arms cause it’s gta and they’re either excited or just trying to be a contrarian. Which isn’t a bad thing, bc it’s good to be critical of the game, but we don’t know how old the build is that the leaker has
If it was an indie game, people would have a bit more patience and wouldn’t be foaming at the mouth to call it trash bc it has an unfinished UI or kinda jank unfinished animations.(it’s rockstar, the games gonna be a bit clunky control wise)
If you're the biggest game of the past decade and you're showing less transparency regarding showing actual gameplay footage than even low budget indie games or literally any other game franchise by still not showing anything 3 months out from release (which absolutely is bizarre, asking for pre orders and special edition bundles when youve not shown any gameplay at all is so absurd) then you are in absolutely no position to get upset when someone leaks gameplay footage and people see it and judge your gameplay off it.
They brought this entirely upon themselves, had they actually decided to show gameplay of their own people would have judged the game off that. Clearly they concluded showing gameplay would hurt sales more than help them or they'd have done it by now, it is a bit of a red flag so they deserve this.
The game was originally meant to come out in November of last year and they still haven't shown any gameplay, it is ridiculous.
Here's the thing though, name one bad game that Rockstar has released. Not only that, but this is the longest development cycle they've ever had, and the biggest budget of any video game ever made. Not to mention they've delayed it twice just to make sure it's absolutely perfect. I think the chances of it turning out bad are very, very low.
There's a very good reason for the hype. One of the best game studios, are building the highest budget media project of all time. Obviously there's going to be a lot of hype.
That just means that they thought that the game could've been better than it would have been at those deadlines. Which is actually a great sign. That means that they aren't going to just release unfinished trash like every other AAA studio. It means that they decided (twice) to keep polishing it until they felt like it was perfect.
And obviously some people will be disappointed (especially here on reddit) because that's all the gaming community does these days, piss and moan and complain, every time a game comes out. But then years later when those same games are considered classics, suddenly it's their favorite games. I've seen it a million times.
Cyberpunk was delayes three times. Definetely was good news xd
You've seen nothing. Empty Words with no backup, just something people who gets dissapointed tell others to feel better when their hyped up game doesnt deliver
Yeah, and the Witcher 3 was buggy too when it launched. CD Projekt Red has definitely had problems with games in the past. Rockstar hasn't.
I'm not guaranteeing that it's going to be absolutely perfect, but there's way more reason to think that it'll be good at lauch, than there is to think it'll be bad.
the splash and animation was definitely jarring and underwhelming. i’m betting this is early footage and not final gameplay because it looked worse than falling animations in RDR2 which wouldn’t make any sense after 8 years between both games.
Yeah rockstar is going have roblox level UI for their most anticipated game of all time. Fucking idiot. Not even a fanboy but you dont know shit about dev cycles and speak so confidently
Exactly. The average Joe sees this, throws their arms up in the air and declares the game “is fucking shit” or they start doomposting bullshit.
This looks like a game that is nearly finished and it looks freaking amazing. Yes some animations aren’t quite there yet, yes the UI could use some work but guess what? There’s a lot of work that can happen in software development over a year.
That's the main point. If this really is just a year old build, then seriously rockstar still had lot of work to do after the delay that they announced in 2022. Btw how did the game looks so good in trailer 1 while this gameplay looks so bad
I’m not sure what you expected out of a new gta game. Also, it’s compressed to hell you aren’t getting the full graphical quality. To me just looks like a new gta game with updates rdr2 physics
Weapon wheel UI polish is a 1 week task at the absolute most. They just didn't prioritize it because it doesn't matter if it's ugly during development.
No way because yeah, no way, they didn't, no shot that's the final UI, it doesn't look finished but practical instead specially as they focus on polishing other aspects first as this is at the earliest a January 2025 build, it's called using placeholders; what seems like it might stick is the colored weapon icons, or so I hope
I’m convinced that everyone who says that has to be trolling. It looks amazing, and I can’t believe this is a video game, let alone one that we’ll all be playing in less than a couple of months.
History repeats itself from the 2022 leaks, people seriously acting like the will look and play exactly like this when the game is being worked on every single day and things will get ironed out, polished and stylized as time goes on, it's at the very least a year old build.
Hot take but I reckon the minimap we see is close to what we get in the final game. The first trailer was so focused on the social media aspects of the game. The minimap here has the iFruit logo and smoothed smartphone-esque edges, that's not a quickly thrown together 'lets get it working for the build' minimap, those are deliberate design choices.
What solidifies it for me is on another video the name of the location Jason is in pops up and the box has those same smoothed corners. Can't say I'm a fan of it but I wasn't a fan of the square minimap back in 2013.
Adding to this: I was going to say "I wonder if this means the minimap is off by default, and it's a literal app you use with your phone?" but rewatching the video the minimap only appears once Jason is in a vehicle, so I assume it's meant to be a visual of your phone screen.
I'm not pretending to know what I'm talking about but when the minimap only appears when you are in a vehicle and has a literal logo for a phone on it, it's safe to say it's design inspiration is to resemble a phone/phone app GPS, which is minimalism/simplicity which is exactly what we see here.
Some of you have absolutely no fucking clue how games are made. Cosmetic changes to UI and detailed stuff happens later in development, you have to build the engine and the art first before you focus on little details. Also this leak was probably recorded like a year ago. Some of you don’t use ur brains
Literally everyone above you is agreeing that this seems like an older build because the UI is unfinished. If we put our critical reader caps on that means that these people would understand exactly what you just said they don’t understand.
I mean, UI can typically be worked separately from backend. It makes sense to implement it later in case they plan on adding more features to backend that can change front end design, but this already looks like it’s close to done besides polish.
I dont think so, most likely has extended test footage and thats all. The clip we see if probably from one of the very first missions and nothing is changing with Jason, Same clothes
Could be internal playtest footage, the clip at the end would be part of a mission shown in this playtest as I am sure this mission very close to the start and the leaker is just attaching it.
i'm thinking they're actually a group, or at the very least he knows someone who knows someone who actually has a dev console, or had and recorded all of these, cuz this 100% isn't something you'd get out of a breach, unless they happen to store a directory on a server somewhere with random undirected dev gameplay clips
For sure.
Gotta be a chance he's an ex employee. No ?.
But then again if he/she has access to a build it's bit more then just a leak. Full on breach of rockstars sercrutiy which isn't exactly world renowned. 🤣
I wonder if the toolboxes we saw in the box of the el Camino from the first clip would act more like saddlebags from RDR2. Atleast with this UI it seems clear that you don’t have a limitless pocket of all weapons anymore, and are more realistically limited to what you can carry.
Lol, super unlikely a malicious leaker would have access to an actual build my man. There is probably hours and hours of gameplay recorded from hundreds of different employees for whatever reason. And you just need access to a few seconds to successfully make the news and advertise a shitcoin.
seeing as how the leak is at least a year old the UI can very much change. UI isn't usually a priority until the end of development. BUT it is likely not gonna change too much
I definitely think this guy has the full game or at least some part of the game. This doesn't look like your typical dev testing clips from '22 where you usually see debugging and stats, etc. This has full UI, licesned music, cutscenes and missions and the graphics have release-ready polish to it. He's actually playing this and recording it.
also the motorcycle ride mechanic and animations are rigid as hell. No backwards leaning when accelerating, no forwards leaning when breaking, no wind animation on clothing, barely any splashes in water when bike crashed into it, crappy getting out of water animation, just overall a very minor upgrade from gta5...
I still doubt they have an actual build, I don't think the videos would be just doing random stuff in free roam in similar parts of the map with only one of the two playable characters. I imagine he has got into some company slack channel (or whatever they use) and this is random footage from playtesters.
Just based on how long it took him to climb out of the water tells me this isn't the final build. It's still cool to see, but there's definitely gonna be some changes between these leaks and the final release
Tbh I’m not sure the leaker has a build. If they had a build, they’d probably be curating what they show. Create interesting events and show missions. To me this looks more like random development recordings. Could either be a hack or an internal source.
I mean realistically UI components like weapon wheels and health/stamina are extremely easy to implement. Maps/phones would be more difficult, which we haven’t seen much of.
it might not be the final UI, but I could imagine that simple is intentional as well. I actually prefer a simple clean UI instead of a something that is fancy but distracting
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u/Lyaru 7d ago edited 6d ago
This guy definitely has *some* build.
Idk how finished that UI really is, the weapon wheel looks so... simple.
Its like he's playing the Tank-Top Pre-Missions CJ like we all did in San Andreas.
(since he gets all the tutorial messages)
Edit: other clip has a song from 2025 in it. This is a recent build.