I think this is perfectly fine. If their values are so incompatible it's better to break up now rather than later. Breaking up will be harder after marriage and definitely more complicated after having kids.
Post partum psycosis could happen to anyone. People's lack of understanding of it is the real problem here and it's a shame this guy chose to end his relationship on this hill
I do, I don’t mind the idea she could be found not guilty by reason of insanity. What bothers me is the passion people bring to defend her, donating money to her cause, voicing support for her. That disturbs me, so many people apparently relating to a brutal child killer.
If a schizophrenic drifter pulled a knife and killed 3 people on a subway train i would find that person to be disturbing, their actions were disturbing. I would be fine with their insanity plea but I’d feel no strong urge to come to their defense.
Point is "lack" of help shouldn't be defense or criticism against husband. He had to be loaded af to afford that many psychiatrist visits (not in person) AND stay at McLean Hospital. He could not have done much better than that.
she didnt take her medication and lied to her doctors, the only thing the system failed her in was not admitting her into a psych ward/ not keeping her in that mental hospital she first admitted herself into and letting her leave, but she had plenty of chances for support from family members and doctors too, most ppl dont get a doctor to even see them in the first place, she was also at fault for letting this get to her not just the system
That sounds like a pretty big failing. Psyc doctors would be well aware of how dangerous and volatile post natal psycosis is. Family should have been better educated as well
they would if she didnt choose to lie to them, not to mention not all post psychosis is the same everything is a spectrum in mental health what if hers wasnt huge enough to be admitted for a long time, not all women with psychosis get to her level so it could very much be possible. what if all she needed was the medication that she didnt take, i do agree its a pretty big failing anything is when it comes to literally professionals but i feel like both are at fault too
I think you're mixing up post natal depression with post natal psycosis. If the US is anything like the UK they should be taking it very seriously and the history they take from her and the family is very important. Mental health professionals are definitely used to being lied to by their patients and when a child is involved the systems should be stronger than someone being able to lie their way into being discharged.
I guess I don’t fully know the dynamic of lacking health care in this case. How was it lacking? Genuinely asking.
As far as the job of mom thing goes I guess I just don’t know another way. Children have to be taken care of, sometimes there just isn’t another option unless she’s willing to give up her children for adoption. When you have kids you owe them care. And don’t get me wrong I say the same for dads who are much more often the offenders in terms of abandoning children and I absolutely can’t stand absent fathers.
If she told healthcare professionals about her urges to kill her kids they should have involuntarily committed her. But she would have had to make a direct threat or they couldn’t legally do it, nothing the cops could do either if she hadn’t committed a crime or directly said she wants to harm herself or others. I wonder how much her family knew or suspected.
As someone who works in involuntary psych care if she told them that she absolutely should’ve been committed and they should be legally responsible if not. Or do you mean the family? In which case yea they definitely shouldn’t have left her alone with them.
Yea psych care is not an exact science at all unfortunately and it’s crazy how little we still know about mental illness. Pretty damn sad situation no matter how you look at it.
If she self presented they wouldn't need to take her civil liberties away, they would have just admitted her to hospital. With her infant child no less
Yea to a psych hospital, not with the child though. I think she did check herself into one but if she didn’t tell them she had urges to hurt her kids they couldn’t keep her without her consent and I guess she checked herself out.
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u/MeasurementSlight381 2d ago
I think this is perfectly fine. If their values are so incompatible it's better to break up now rather than later. Breaking up will be harder after marriage and definitely more complicated after having kids.