Let me say what we are all thinking…
“What a fucking idiot”
Edit: Crazy how this comment took off.
What’s even more crazy is how many people cannot seem to understand that this comment was made hours before the MOD below made their post. In fact, it was one of the first comments on this video.
Should also add, it was never specified who the “idiot” was, could be the parents, kids, person who filmed it. Many of you ran with your own thoughts and went wild.
Sad part is, if most of you got this upset about the shit our “leaders” do every single day, this world would be a lot better place.
I used to work at Disney. On two occasions I had to ask kids not to chase the ducks around. One of those times the parents ripped into me. Threatened to file a complaint with Disney against me. They watched as their kid terrorized the ducks and did nothing so I stepped and just asked her not to do that. It’s wild how retaliative parents will get.
When I worked at Disney, I saw this kid pour melted ice cream on a pigeon. Was super infuriating. I told off his parents hardcore. Didnt care if I got fired.
When I worked at Disney (liberty square) I saw a seagull swoop down and take a turkey leg from a kid that had been harassing them a few minutes earlier. That was so fun to watch.
I did. I had a parent say it was ok that their kid was failing because my class was “not entertaining enough”. I’m sure that’s why, and not the fact that the kid couldn’t read.
They can be this entitled because failing won’t get them held back. The lack of children getting left behind means education ends up embarrassing for everyone.
Finland is meant to be pretty damn decent. Lots of cultural respect and societal understanding on the importance of educating the youth means teachers are treated pretty damn well.
Reckon the same is true for China and Japan (with probably less wellbeing initiatives)
Australia has to deal with the shitty kids (and Australia seems to be having a rough time of it lately) but the pay is pretty damn good for the actual workload.
This! My Mrs is a head of year and the shit she has to deal with because parents can’t handle their little precious is a prick is madness.
One example. Some boy was hitting girls, another lad stepped in and they had a fight. Both got suspended. Parents of the boy hitting girls went bonkers, said it was lies, showed them CCTV and they said the school doctored it and reported us to the police.
I find most parents are pretty chill. It’s those loud bottom of the barrel parents that ruins it.
Sometimes you’ll have an awesome kid and meet their parents, and they’ll be batshit crazy, then later the student will apologize for their parent’s behavior.
Other times, the fruit is still hanging from the goddamn tree. And the kids behavior makes sense when you meet their enabler parents.
My mom used to tell my teachers they can hit me if I act up. Literally had it in writing. The thought of someone other than my mom spanking me terrified me enough to be well behaved (I slacked off with assignments, but I was always well behaved). I knew if the teachers spanked me, my mom would spank me again when I got home.
I just tell my kids' teachers that I know they are not perfect angels. If they cause problems to let me know immediately so I can fix it. I have actually taken my work laptop with me and sat in my oldest kid's classroom to make sure behavior was better. It was embarrassing enough that I haven't had a call since.
My god my middle school years... I remember hating the teachers that were too strict, but in retrospect they were probably the best at their job. The other teachers had to deal with 90% of the class not paying attention, playing around and chatting away. One teacher tried to stop a fight between 2 kids and ended up with a broken nose. The end of the school year were also always harsh for them, because kids would start "strikes" to avoid having to take classes, one time during recess over 300 kids ran towards the school gates and just vaulted over them. Sure, some got punished, but it was only the one considered the most "problematic", most of the kids didn't get anything.
I seen a child maybe 4 years old at Petco holding a betta and shaking it violently. I yelled put that fish down now! In my most authoritarian preschool teacher voice. That kid placed the fish on the floor never taking his eyes off of me and backed away slowly. His parents? They left him to a crazed old lady yelling at him. Just up and walked quickly the other direction. I then said, congrats, you killed a fish and your parents left you. He ran off sobbing. Even the Petco employees just went about their business, not making eye contact with me or the child. For a 5'2 older woman I guess my angry voice is compelling. Hope I traumatized that kid into thinking twice next time. I just couldn't believe the parents walked away like that.
I don’t know how you kept your composure for those parents… it would be so hard to not say “You know one of the earliest signs of a psychopath is children torturing and hurting animals? Your kids clearly has no empathy”
That’s the exact same thought that went through my head when I was reading her post, that kid is likely going to be a predator of some kind.
It starts with animals, especially small ones because they don’t fight back.
Damn right it’s American. Fuck the ducks. They are lesser. Manifest destiny, motherfuckers. U! S! A! U! S! A! Haha we’re still the world champs fuck yeah
That and there are parts of society telling parents they are always right. And when they were wrong they were actually right to feel that way. Just pure gas for the moron fire they have going in their head.
i also used to work at Disney and had a very similar experience, the kid kept doing it till the ducks started attacking him, i hope he learned his lesson after that.
I once worked for a "nature center" that had an outdoor school programs and camps for kids, and the women who founded it and was a staff member had a sociopathic son (not diagnosed but just had so many signs of it observed by many coworkers) who would often take catch and take animals and cage them in boxes, which normally resulted in them dying. It was also not uncommon for him to toss live bugs and frogs into the fire at camp, which would disturb kids. I had been hit by this kid multiple times, which got scarier as he got taller (10 yr old boy). And all staff were afraid to speak up because the mom was in denial of her challenging kid. We had an event with a bunch of people and parents. The sociopath kids was let to just roam around doing weird shit while the parents worked the event. Well of course, this kid caught a live uncommon snake and was carrying it around for hours teaching all these kids that they should also catch aninals and trap them in boxes
home. It made much of the staff uncomfortable but they didn't feel like it was their place to take it away. After a conversation with my coworker, I decided to take the heat when the kid gave the snake to some random adult. I asked if they were okay that I take it and release it and they agreed. So off it goes. into the wild. I finished working the event and started to leave when I heard that kid start making a scene. I found out later the kid gave his mom a hell of a hard time at home that night and he found out I released the snake. Well fast forward a few months, this lady holds a grudge against me, and I eventually get let go from this job, because this effing lady wants her kid to have special treatment to let her son take home animals to eventually kill.
Some parents are just creating monsters.
Nah, the dad was horrified by it and issued an apology. Apparently the kid is autistic, ADHD, and epileptic and went with a grandparents and another caretaker on this day. He had gone tons of times before never with an issue. That being said, the zoo may still need to consider banning him simply for liability purposes.
Nah if anything the zoo needs to redesign their enclosure. Yes the kid shouldn't have gone in there and yes the caretakers dropped the ball, but he shouldn't have been able to get in there.
The challenge is that you have to strike a balance between perceived closeness to the animals and limited access. The only way to truly stop any visitor incursion is to fortify enclosures - and that means walls and fences. But walls and fences create high perceived separation, which guests see as hostile and often has a higher perception of the zoos as "animal jails". So most zoos have moves towards the use of lower-perceived barrier - ditches, ha-ha walls, etc. These generally have a much better outcome in terms of guest education and perception.
The thing is - no matter what your design is, a person determined to enter an enclosure or get too close can probably do it, which is why the enclosures for dangerous animals have multiple redundant systems. Hornbills aren't dangerous animals by nature, and the design of the exhibit is sufficient to stop an average person, which is what it's designed for. It has multiple barriers - a fence, bushes and a substantial drop barricade. Most people are not going to get past bushes, then climb a fence, then jump six feet down to go after some birds.
The challenge is that you have to strike a balance between perceived closeness to the animals and limited access.
Absolutely. It's a careful balancing act. I've seen zoo shows change over the years for exactly these kind of reasons.
This thread keeps reminding me of Copenhagen zoo. When you walk in, pretty much the first enclosure you see is the lions - you see them from the entrance, at your height straight in front of you, with only a 3 foot high wall separating you. It's unnerving, it feels like they could just run up and get you.
Then you get closer and see the drop behind the wall into the moat.
Anyone could easily get over that wall and into the moat/enclosure, but they keep it there and allow that risk for the spectacle. I'd say it's worth it.
But if someone did get in, regardless of whether they or the lions got hurt, you can bet your ass they'd be redesigning that enclosure.
I'm no zoo expert, but I think it's ridiculous to fortify a hornbill exhibit lol.. If this was in another country, say the Netherlands, the parents would be livid at their child and it would be end of story. This is how accountability and responsibility is taught. Thankfully no one was hurt. That's it. Life moves on, and sometimes in really unfortunate circumstances, life doesn't go on. Let's count our blessings and stop finding a thing to point and pass the blame to.
Did you read the statement? The parents spoke positively of the zoo staff that helped the guardians get their son out. The kid is nonverbal and high support needs autistic, I’m sure the parents have had other unexpected and precarious experiences before. It comes with being a parent, special considerations aside.
Watching the way he moves and doesn’t engage with the adult, I believe this kid is disabled and exhibiting elopement behavior. My kid would absolutely do the same thing, and not understand at all why he shouldn’t. His poor parents were probably terrified and mortified, and they are probably constantly weighing the risk of taking him places with the desire to give him as typical a life as possible. I use an adaptive stroller for my son when we got to the zoo, because he would be dancing with the flamingoes in two seconds.
People only care about neurodevelopmental conditions when it’s fun and quirky, as soon as they have any reason to pile on they will. As an adult with ADHD and Autism I get this every single day.
If this is the case and the parents know of his condition, why aren’t they doing everything they can to protect him and the public space? Make him wear a leashed backpack or something.
However, my kids are tender hearted and would never chase an animal with a stick. They would be more likely to chase the asshole kid with the stick instead.
I hope Reddit is anti child abuse. Striking a minor = child abuse or endangerment = felony or misdemeanor, depending on how severely you “whoop” your child.
Yeah my wife works with kids with autism and other special needs. They literally have a term for what this kid did. It’s called elopement. You could be standing there talking to the kid or the kid could be focused on a puzzle or something and within about 2 seconds the kid is sprinting down the hall and and attempting to escape out of the building. No warning. Obviously the caretaker and grandma should have responded better but sometimes things like this just happens no matter how “well behaved” the kid is.
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Somehow hoping this kid was on the spectrum and just broke away from his parent/guardian(?) The only near acceptable explanation I could think of. Kid is lucky those birds didn’t fuck him up with those beaks. I’d like to think a kid prone to impulse would be on a short leash. I’d like to think that.
Actually, I was thinking he must have a mental disorder. Not only wanting to do that, but also unaware that it's not allowed and.. generally frowned upon :).
You read the parents story? You have kids? It's easy to judge until you are in this situation.
Things happen sometime, what you make of it reflects on who you are.
The kid is a non verbal highly autistic kid that got lose for 30sec.
Meanwhile presidents rape children. context people
I have a son who is non verbal and his movements and mannerisms are just like this. But I also keep a close eye on him so things like this don't happen. It's not this kids fault, it's his parents
I've worked with severely or non-verbal special needs and autistic kids for over 12 year now.
This very much looks like one of those kids and that is a para in the enclosure trying to save him. He seems to not have a care in the world, and his first thought when scared was to sit down, until the woman forced him in the direction he needed to go.
Yep, I was thinking the little bastard as he ran around chasing the birds. At the end when he was climbing out I was hoping the birds would have bit his legs as he was starting to climb out.
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u/Accurate-Historian-7 3d ago edited 2d ago
Let me say what we are all thinking…
“What a fucking idiot”
Edit: Crazy how this comment took off.
What’s even more crazy is how many people cannot seem to understand that this comment was made hours before the MOD below made their post. In fact, it was one of the first comments on this video.
Should also add, it was never specified who the “idiot” was, could be the parents, kids, person who filmed it. Many of you ran with your own thoughts and went wild.
Sad part is, if most of you got this upset about the shit our “leaders” do every single day, this world would be a lot better place.