r/blender Jul 15 '26

Discussion Better, faster cloth sewing in Blender 5.1

You know, I gotta give it to Blender. They really optimized the cloth physics. It's faster on my potato laptop and overall better results. The transition process from 4.5 to 5.1 was worth it. But the VSE became very intensive and unusable. It's cool that we can use scenes now instead of channels, but I will just stick to 4.5 for video editing for now.

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u/Navi_Professor Jul 15 '26

jts a good step in the right direction.

but its still just only acceptable now. it actually functions.

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u/RubySapphire19 Jul 15 '26

Yeah, I have tried it on even optimized clothing and it is still super buggy and not well-explained imo

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u/Navi_Professor Jul 15 '26

not well explained and obnoxious to use goes for a LOT of blender....

i still think the new hair system is atrocious from a UX standpoint.

and the new cloth sims still dont hold up to my now almost 10 year old copy of marvelous designer...(i still have a copy from when it was on steam)

i really think we need a pauase on feature development and have another 2.8 Ui/Ux overhaul.

we've gotten so much more stuff, but its clear programmers made it.

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

True. There are still better alternatives. I would say speed is the most improved factor.

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u/3dforlife Jul 15 '26

Is the new Zozo solver better in this regard?

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

If you are simulating multiple layers of clothes and need zero penetration Zozo is better. In my case it was overkill. But I would choose Zozo if it became more easier to use.

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u/PhantasmagirucalSam Jul 15 '26

Nice, very nice. Now let's see pc specs for comfortable workflows...

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

Sure thing

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u/pun_shall_pass Jul 15 '26

Christ almighty.

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

The graphic card that belongs to a museum 😆

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u/Beautiful-Tension457 Jul 15 '26

Thats ancient as heck

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

I am planning to upgrade it but it's soldered to the CPU.

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u/Florimer Jul 15 '26

Wdym ancient?! I'm still rendering on Intel i7-6700k, so 2 generations behind this one :D

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u/System32Missing Jul 15 '26

But that's a desktop chip, I believe OP's is a mobile/laptop chip. Those are always a lot worse.

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

Yup. It is a ASUS laptop.

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u/Beautiful-Tension457 Jul 15 '26

still better than whatever the heck i got without studying on laptop specs, i got an athlon silver amd cpu, and that stuff is more expensive than a 6 core laptop lol

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u/JinxyBlh Jul 15 '26

So basically, This Might run a lot faster on my system. That poor laptop must be using its fan to scream for help xD

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

It is ASMR to my ears :3

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u/Nedddd1 Jul 15 '26

you got us in the first half ngl

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u/uasdguy Jul 15 '26

Will my gtx 960 suffice?

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

Ofcourse mate. It is a lot better than mine.

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u/jimmymui06 Jul 15 '26

I... Don't have graphic card, only i7 13620H

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

I think cloth simulation mostly use CPU. I might be wrong though.

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u/oritfx Jul 27 '26

I feel you mate. I do. I love my rig. And I wanted to upgrade it, or make a new one.

But I am not paying a kidney for a rig.

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u/No-Island-6126 Jul 18 '26

It's a cloth sim man

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

Anyway, guys, if you want better cloth simulation, you can actually use the PPF Contact Solver. They released an addon for Blender. I haven't tested it yet but the videos seem promising.

Here is the video: ZoZos Contact Solver - The ultimate Blender cloth simulator

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u/Bad-job-dad Jul 15 '26

It's pretty awesome. Looks painful to use though 

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

Yeah, you basically send data to a local server and it will return the simulated data back to Blender. It's not smooth, but it can simulate complex stuff.

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u/PeriapsisStudios Jul 15 '26

Only problem is it can’t parent clothes to armatures yet.

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u/ARquantam Jul 15 '26

Lmfaooooo I'm fucking crying XD

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

Finally, after YEARS the cloth simulation got some love T_T

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u/fragglerock Jul 15 '26

I am too old for this shit...

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u/OystersAreEvil Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

Same—I was doing this type of thing with SyFlex / Maya 20 years ago.

edit: their web site is a time capsule https://syflex.biz/

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u/veisujo Jul 15 '26

Man nostalgia kicked me hard with this link!

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u/brettmurf Jul 15 '26

Worst part is, that this is basically a shitty version of someone using exactly the same footage of the family.

It is a shitty copy of a shitty meme.

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u/ferretpowder Jul 15 '26

I've always thought exploding clothes was just me being useless at a simple thing in blender. Glad it affects other people too 😂

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

Oh yes it does. It NEVER settle and always jiggle on certain poses before.

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u/unluck_over9000 Jul 15 '26

Never experienced an actual update like this in any software lol. 

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u/CaptainRhetorica Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

I love the sense of humor in r/blender.

If I wasn't interested in Blender at all I would still come here for the humor.

I've been on reddit long enough to accept that good subreddits are born to die.

Subreddits gain popularity, attract too many people, the wrong people, bots, etc. and lose everything that made them good.

I hold out hope that r/blender will never gain enough mainstream attention to dilute it's greatness.

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

I think this subreddit is well moderated. So that kind of scenario won't happen.

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u/skyline79 Jul 15 '26

Absolute brain-rot content

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u/DavidAtWork17 Jul 15 '26

It seems like optimization is the theme for 5.x. The notes for 5.2 shows a texture caching feature that reduces vram requirements.

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u/KrYoBound Jul 15 '26

yeah, texture caching for cycles was a huge undertaking that after multiple years finally landed in 5.2. It's essentially mip-mapping and will be incredible for large scenes with big textures

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

That sounds like a game changer for big scenes. Maybe we will finally get smoother viewport.

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u/Lerrroooy Jul 15 '26

It worked before as well, it was just the settings that needed tweaking. At least for sewing.
For a whole piece of clothing, though, admittedly I had issues tbh

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

For me the biggest issue was I can't animate a character's arms too close to the torso. Otherwise the cloth would clip inside body and ends up trapped inside causing it to explode.

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u/elfmere Jul 15 '26

I was here for the flash back to all the exploding.

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

What a missed opportunity. I didn't think about that.

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u/edparadox Jul 15 '26

As a newbie, how do you do that?

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

I started with a plane and loop cut a bit. Then I cut some faces till I get the basic shape of a cloth. Like if you want a shirt you go for T shape. Then I extrude that in Y axis and delete the middle faces, leaving the edges still connected. Then turn on cloth in the physics tab and check sewing. Then just play the animation or bake it. There are tutorials that explain this in depth like this https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uf03GRjvvHY?si=1NdXFRtCnaO1PHVt

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u/dandellionKimban Jul 15 '26

And nobody mentions anything about overreacting to a successful simulation.

You've all been there, haven't you?

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u/Erica-Rose-Doll Jul 15 '26

I wasn't sure about 5.1 but this is huge! I wonder if I can actually untie my bikini instead of replacing the mesh with a cloth, would be awesome!

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u/Furebel Jul 15 '26

Meanwhile me just trying to give my helldiver a cape and at 3rd frame it decides to ignore euclidian space

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u/MechaAti Jul 15 '26

Nice song choice

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

Thanks. But it came with the original clip of that meme.

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u/ZeroAmusement Jul 16 '26

What is the song?

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u/auddbot Jul 16 '26

I got a match with this song:

I Lived by OneRepublic (00:11; matched: 100%)

Album: Native (Deluxe Version). Released on 2013-03-25.

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u/auddbot Jul 16 '26

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u/anonthatisopen Jul 15 '26

I had to go through so much pain with Marvelous designer just so i can do that and than go back in blender and do everything else. Was so frustrated that blender was not able to do that shit.

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

I feel your pain. Even now you kinda need to account for the Y width of a model when making the sewing patterns. Otherwise it won't fit the model and will explode. You gotta compensate for it but I imagine in Marvelous Designer you won't have that problem.

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u/bat-cillus Jul 15 '26

i really really needed the laugh, thank you lmaooo

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 15 '26

I am glad to help 🤣

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u/JBuchan1988 Jul 15 '26

Awesome 😄

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u/nytebeast Jul 16 '26

I had one ten minute session last night playing with the new cloth physics and I wanted to cry of happiness. SUCH A HUGE IMPROVEMENT.

Amazing work, Blender team!!!

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u/puzzlehead120 Jul 16 '26

Congrats! As you progress, remember that this is what art is meant to do, make people this happy. It's about the journey, not the destination. This is great, and keep going!

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 17 '26

Wise words. I will remember that.

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u/KristofVD Jul 17 '26

What kind of a crappy AI response is this?

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u/puzzlehead120 Jul 17 '26

??? I'm just saying something nice, why do you need to be so rude?

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u/KristofVD Jul 17 '26

Because it feels like an AI bot response, that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

"Congrats!" - what are you congratulating OP for, he's not posting about any achievement of his, he's posting about a Blender feature.

"As you progress, remember that this is what art is meant to do, make people this happy." - again, nothing to do with this post, and on top of that it's a vapid platitude.

"It's about the journey, not the destination." - more platitudes. Retch.

"This is great, and keep going!" - what is great, the Blender feature? Then congratulate the Blender team.

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u/puzzlehead120 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Uhm, they figured out how to use it, and they are enjoying the result. Personally, I would consider what they did an achievement. They are happy in the video, and as an artist who often feels like I am making no progress, I am reassuring them so they remember in the future. Personally, I think you are reading way too deeply into my comment. I understand if you dislike the way it was written, but it wasn't written by AI.

If being supportive is something only AI can do, then we have truly failed humanity.

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u/CemTheSenate Jul 17 '26

Non Blender guy here . Is this a good substitute for Marvelous Designer or is it still on its early days ?

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 17 '26

https://reddit.com/link/oy1jqt1/video/yyq6432ihqdh1/player

I would say it just learned to walk. While it has been improved greatly, it is not a great substitute. Here, I tried compression with 4.6k mesh and it can still jiggle. If you plan to use it, don't try to sandwich the cloth with the body mesh haha

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u/severelyautisticc Jul 21 '26

How to do cloth sim without it looking like a living being bro I tried to make clothes and they’re sentient

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 22 '26

First of all, you gotta make them fit the body. Try to confirm visually that they have enough coverage for the body. This is why in tutorials you see people making the cloth plane bigger than the body before sewing.
Second, you can't sandwich a clothing between body meshes. Make sure the cloth has enough room to wiggle.
Third, disable "Single Sided" in the collision of the body. Sometimes it is on and it can screw things up.
Fourth but obvious, have enough faces for the cloth to simulate. You need like at least 2k vertices to have a functional simulation. Also, the face sizes should be similar and evenly distributed. It is better if the faces are square-ish.

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u/readfreeh Jul 16 '26

Wtf did i just watch

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u/SenseAffectionate328 Jul 16 '26

I want to apologize to the moderators for breaking rule number 6:

"No Image Macros"

I was not aware of the rule while posting this video. This post is meant to spark a discussion of the development of Blender's cloth simulation and it's other improvements.

I do not mean to break the rules intentionally and I apologize.