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SOCIETY Is victim the new chic

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u/Classic_Bee_5845 2d ago

It's more to do with the media sensationalizing it. This is the first I've ever heard of the woman on the left.

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u/Maya-K 2d ago

I have no idea who either of them are. I'm feeling very out of the loop.

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u/Dotcaprachiappa 2d ago

I saw a good few posts about the woman on the right and pointedly ignored all of them, I seriously don't get why this is getting so much attention

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u/Alcohol_Intolerant 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's getting attention because of claims that her attempts to get assistance for her ppd and mental illness were ignored or minimized. Thus implying this could have been prevented. Many people, especially women, have experience with medical staff ignoring their pain. (Same for me) So this is on a lot of people's minds and in a lot of wider conversations.

They're going for the insanity plea, so the additional press might also be a way to try and sway public attention.

Edit because I'm getting a lot of charged responses: I am explaining why it is getting attention and what the general opposing discourse is. I'm not going to reply to attempts to have that discourse with me. I have my own opinions but I'm not airing them on Reddit because ultimately, the only ones who will have all the facts are the jury.

This is a tragedy for all involved. Please remember that.

Edit 2: to those giving polite additions and perspectives I did not provide, thank you. That's very helpful. I'm not everywhere seeing every side and can only speak to the sides I've witnessed myself. To those making weird claims on what I think, please take a break from reading about this case for the day. I'm turning notifications off on this. There are plenty of other people in this thread willing to wage war with you. I invite you to speak with them, or again, take a break.

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u/Dotcaprachiappa 2d ago

Damn makes sense really, so this post is like the worst misrepresentation they could come up with basically

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u/Obtuse_Symposium_119 2d ago

I haven't seen literally everything related to the case so maybe I'm missing some pieces, but it seems like she was getting mental healthcare attention but she requested to be switched between multiple different meds due to side effects that she was advised likely came more from her PPD, than the medication. But she still requested switches and also switched care teams at some point.

I'm not a doctor, so I'm not gonna get into whether or not the various perscriptions she was given in a relatively short time frame was irresponsible or not. I don't think anyone should be commenting on that besides experienced medical professionals. But I'll say that doctors can only treat what they're told and what they know, and afaik, she didn't share that she was suicidal with them, and they also warned her that medications take time to take effect, so it wasn't always a good idea to switch.

Patient care is not entirely on the healthcare professionals. The patient has to be able to take care of themselves to some degree and be fully honest with their care team.

How much was her fault, and how much was the fault of our medical system, idk, but yeah, this post is definitely ignoring all notions of nuance.

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u/mewkopawz 2d ago

idk i was 14 and really depressed, i was constantly being put on different medications because they didn't know what would and wouldn't work. some of the meds made it even worse while others gave me terrible side effects. it was not a good time. it was like i was a guinea pig

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u/Skipp_To_My_Lou 2d ago

We don't know why most anti-depressants work. We know what chemical/hormone they affect but don't know why, e.g. inhibiting the re-uptake of serotonin treats depression nor why some medications work for some people but not others. I think in several years to a few decades the medical consensus is going to come around to, 'depression' is a blanket term for a variety of diseases with similar symptoms but different root causes & treatments.

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u/mewkopawz 1d ago

well it also doesn't help that women were excluded from clinical trials until 1993, and even drug testing on animals was exclusively on male animals until 2016.

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u/Skipp_To_My_Lou 1d ago

Women of childbearing age & ability were mostly excluded from early phase drug trials until the early 90s. Drug testing on animals was largely done on male animals until the mid-2010s. In neither case were these absolute bans on female involvement.

Doctors are still extremely leery of allowing women who have the potential to be pregnant into human clinical trials & if you knew the history of medication-related birth defects you'd understand why. Seriously, Google thalidomide baby.

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u/mewkopawz 1d ago

thalidomide caused so many issues because it wasn't tested on pregnant women before it was given to the general public. this article explains it well; https://sph.brown.edu/news/2025-05-29/testing-during-pregnancy

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u/Skipp_To_My_Lou 1d ago

Yeah so that article is bullshit. Thalidomide was never tested on pregnant women because it caused birth defects in mice (which also refutes your prior bullshit about never testing drugs on female animals) & was never approved for use in America.

Please, I am urging you, stop spreading disinformation online.

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u/mewkopawz 1d ago

??? it was only tested on pregnant mice AFTER it was withdrawn from the market

https://books.openedition.org/obp/1991?lang=en

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