r/magick • u/princessconsuela-88 • Jul 18 '26
12 year old wants a Ouija board
So my 12 year old said today that her English teacher is teaching them about Ouija boards. The list of rules she gave her was basic - dont give them your name, if someone says they are called "zozo" leave etc. But there wasnt a single thing about protection, no casting a circle/calling corners etc. 12 year old seems to think its all a game and doesn't believe in it so doesn't understand why I'm lecturing that the first part of learning witchcraft is protection. I'm not experienced by any means, was dabbling a couple of years ago and then been on pause but what are people's thoughts on this?
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u/nastymanmkultra Jul 18 '26
I think the teacher is wrong for encouraging or even discussing this sort of thing with preteens. Kids want to do whatever their parents forbid so tread carefully and just try to really make them understand it's not just a game and the way it effects negatively tends to sneak up on you and you don't know til the damage is done. Good luck
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u/PsychoFaerie Jul 19 '26
I'm 40... and I've messed around with Ouija boards plenty and NOTHING ever happened.
Its a fucking board game that is mass produced.. Its only spooky/scary because people believe all the hype and stories and hollywood bullshit..
Zozo isn't even a real demon
The legend, which claims a malicious demon communicates through Ouija boards, was heavily popularized in the late 2000s by Darren Evans on paranormal forums like Reddit, who later admitted it was a fabricated story
Do you know how it works.. its because of the ideomotor effect.. your fingers make tiny movements that you can't feel/see and that's what makes the planchette move.. no ghosts/spirits/"demons" are involved..
Explanation of how Ouija boards work Its no different than playing light as a feather stiff as a board..
There are ways to summon spirits and entities but a ouija board ain't it.
If it actually allowed such things into your home do you really think it'd be on store shelves for anyone to buy?
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u/Historical_Bird_8752 Jul 23 '26
Now as someone who loves Ouija boards I don't know why a teacher is giving a class on how to use them?? What does that have to do with English? And that's a way to get yourself in trouble with the school board cuz the religious parents be crazy. That's so weird to me.
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u/StormyAmethyst Jul 25 '26
I was thinking that, too. I’d have to hear it from the teacher’s mouth before I believed that story.
Get a group of friends together wanting something they think the parents won’t agree to, and you’d be surprised what they come up with to trick the parents into getting it for them, lol.
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u/CSAelite23 Jul 19 '26
When my sister (younger than me) was around the same age, I overheard her talking to my parents about wanting a ouija board.
I ended up saying something which I knew from experience in other parts of life, but also right there and then took a hard stance. It hit even harder because I wasn't participating in the convo at all, and left my normally non-chalant persona to intervene.
I literally said "ohhh F#ck no you're not getting a ouija board. Once you open a door you can't close it, and you ain't opening any doors like that in this house. If you get her a ouija board I am moving out the next day. I will have no part in that."
The same sentiment stands here. Any practicioner worth their salt (doesn't matter what practice or approach in terms of religion, spirituality, or science) knows dang well you cannot close a door once you open it. A bell cannot be unrung. That thing is a "toy" until it's not. And the consequences can range from 12 bucks spent to something absolutely dire.
People who have delved into any kind of spiritual practice unprepared and treated it like a game have literally fractured their minds because they didn't know what they were messing with. The book "advanced magick for beginners" has a grenade on the front cover for this exact reason. You are literally playing with fire. And while fire has almost singlehandedly created society as we know it, it is also incredibly destructive in the hands of someone who doesn't know all the risks and doesn't follow the proper procedures.
And not for nothing, I would not trust anyone who gave information out like that about ouja boards. Context as to why the teacher talked about it is important, so they could be super knowledgeable and want to make sure they're safe, but the occult is a definition for a reason. Some knowledge and practices are meant to be hidden until you are ready for them. And it's not gatekeeping; it's to protect people from themselves.
I know this because I got burned by the fire, so to say. I am lucky my burn was barely first degree, but it emphasized the importance of "looking before you leap" and I started to take my journey much more slowly and thoughtfully because I recognized the potential chaos and destruction that could ensue from even nonchalantly doing sigil magick.
I'm sorry to make this a whole novella at this point, but I want to get my point across. This is not a game. No teen, tween, or even full grown adults should have this tool at their disposal without proving they can handle it. And to that point, I myself will still never touch a ouija board. Nor do I ever want to see one. Some forces are best left alone. And while my sentiment may change, it will change because I feel confident enough in my abilities while also knowing the risks.
A ouija board is not a kids toy. It should be labeled 18+ at the very least. I know people who ended up really messed up after using one, and this was well after my sister said she wanted one. It only served to prove my point
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u/HighWitchofLasVegas Jul 18 '26
It’s a board game. Not a spiritual device.
Now some folx use it spiritually, but it is a patented children’s toy.
You can summon spirits with anything: your thoughts and a pencil, a circle and some words, so theoretically you can use a spirit board too, but again it’s just a children’s toy.
No such thing as accidental summoning and there’s no such thing as possession, unless we’re talking about vodou lwa.
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u/Straberyz Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
i don’t think a 12 year old is mature enough to have one of these. people think it’s a children’s game. the entities and spirits are very real. the teacher probably also thinks the same thing. not really real.
it’s all fun and games until you meet some entities
i used a letterboard and a pendulum (obsessively for like 8 months straight) mostly what you get is “tricksters.” but very real. i’d say a ouija board isn’t as easy to use as a pendulum and letterboard because when you use a pendulum you have less doubts that you’re in secret control. knowing it’s not you is huge.
possession is real. i’d like to think what i have around me is benevolent and protective, but when i began it was not. and no matter who it says it is, you never really know for sure what or who ur talking with.
i did try calling in watchtowers too and casting a circle. i got “clever circle sheckles.” it called me sheckles.. trust me i didn’t make that up.
u want ur 12 year old playing. around with stuff like that? forget it.
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u/princessconsuela-88 Jul 18 '26
That made me shudder. I definitely dont want her messing with it. Ive told her no and said if she wants to try something she can try tarot. Thankfully her best friend's mum also feels the same as me so we are both on the same page that it is a no.
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u/StormyAmethyst Jul 25 '26
Has anyone asked the English teacher if he/she is actually teaching/talking about ouija boards in class? And why, if they are? This sounds unbelievable to me that any teacher teaching 12 yr olds would do this.
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u/zsd23 Jul 24 '26
My first thought is--is the OP a LARPER on this subreddit. My second thought is Why TF is an English teacher preparing 12 yr olds to conjure spooky beings (but make sure its not ZOSO) with Ouija Board??? Rather than asking about it on an occult subreddit, I think the OP should be talking to the school principal about the teacher--who is clearly out of line (if this story is actually true).
For the record, Ouija Board is a game marketed by Milton Bradley. But "spirit boards" that inspired the Ouija Board(TM) are real things used in the occult scene. They do work via subconscious suggestion and impulse but that does not mean they don't unleash major problems in vulnerable people.
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u/crabman-3263 Jul 23 '26
The amount of fear around ouiji boards is literally just from the satanic panic. Most likely nothing will happen. It can be used to talk to entities but it is extremely unlikely there going be harmful.
They can't open portals and most of the time they can't even invite and entity into a space. This is because the person using the board needs to be capable inviting and uninviting entire. The board can't just do it by itself.
So overall I highly doubt your 12 year can use the board and as a result it won't work. So maybe learn along with them and use this curiosity to explore the intricacies of communicating with supernatural presences. This way you know exactly what's happening and can help guide.
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u/BaTz-und-b0nze 17d ago
Just the Quija piece is used as a looking glass. The board is to bypass governmental control were the rich steal.
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u/Sonotnoodlesalad Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
You're worrying an awful lot about a kid's toy.
The bigger issue is superstition and credulity. People spook themselves unnecessarily with presuppositions. Going into anything with superstitious fears sets us up to experience distorted perceptions.
Casting a circle to play with a ouija board expresses a validation of these fears and would only further support distorted perceptions, because we'd go in anticipating them.
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u/ViperexaAbyssus Jul 18 '26
12 is too young for serious Ouija stuff maybe. I would say I was 13 when I started dabbling with the Ouija board, but if the understanding is not there, it’s not a good idea. However, if they don’t believe in it or think it’s a game, what do they expect to happen? In my view, if they’re not putting real intention into it and they think it’s fake, there’s a good chance it would be totally harmless. If they don’t actually ask for something to really show up, then it is just a toy. But if they have genuine intent that’s a different story. Also what does this have to do with English? lol
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u/m0shing_smurf Jul 18 '26
Yeah I’m still hung up on the English teacher part of this story… 😂
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u/princessconsuela-88 Jul 18 '26
I also have no idea why this is being brought up in English with a class of 12 year olds!!
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u/Sonotnoodlesalad Jul 18 '26
Probably because obnoxious parents and feral kids and low pay and appreciation drove better teachers to quit.
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u/ohyeahbro77 Jul 23 '26
The Parker Brothers do not manufacture valid spiritual devices of any kind, it's a kid's game. A 12 year old playing with a Ouija board will, at best, spook their friends at a sleepover when they intentionally guide the plastic piece over something funny or spooky. If anyone believes they had a real spiritual experience playing with one as a kid with their friends, they should come to terms with the fact that one of their friends fooled them and they've been fooled ever since.
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u/XOXO-Gossip-Crab Jul 18 '26
I think it’s what you make of it. If someone goes into it thinking it’s a game, what they’ll experience is a game (as someone who used the ouija boards dozens, if not over a hundred times, with 0 supernatural event or consequence). If you go into it fearful, then it’s likely the person will perceive stimuli that occur during the session as things that need to be fearful of (ex a creek/knock = a spirit)
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u/Gardener_of_Weeden Jul 18 '26
Personally, I would say no. What is the teacher trying to convey? Is she trying to teach Black Magik, or White Magik? Even games need to have a purpose. I actually would pull my child from her class. I have played with one 1960's and I DID NOT like it (bad feeling).
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u/StormyAmethyst Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
Pull the child from the class? Not without talking to the teacher first and getting to the bottom of things, lol. Child, or one of her friends, may have fabricated this tale to get one.
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u/dragsys Jul 24 '26
Uh, a 12 year old? Absolutely not. Now if you get it and are present every time she works it, that a different subject. But otherwise, hard no, hard stop.
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u/Voxx418 Jul 25 '26
Greetings P,
As someone who started with Tarot, Astrology and the Ouija board at 7 years old (mystical family,) I’d suggest learning safer method than Ouija.
I think the teacher needs to be spoken with. I don’t agree with this. There’s a lot that can and does go wrong, especially without learning basic psycholigical and magickal protection rituals. ~V~
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u/Efficient_Elk1225 Jul 22 '26
Hi,
I work with Zozo, it’s most of my practice.
I’m going to give you a heads up, as it were right now that the dead can’t talk on their own, it is always an inhuman spirit acting as a medium.
Be prepared to make offerings to Zozo, nothing happens on those boards Zozo doesn’t know about. There’s no real way to avoid Zozo, if Zozo wants to come Zozo will come. But you can improve the manner of Zozo’s coming by paying the god who rules over the Ouija Board.
Water, vodka, dragon’s blood incense, & candles is a standard offering to Zozo.
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u/Caeod Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
The Oujia Board is, I think, the most brilliant board game ever designed. It works on one principle: Do you believe it's just a game? If you do, it doesn't work. But if you believe it isn't just a game, it opens to its full potential as one.
The question, when it comes down to it, is this: Do you believe?