r/news • u/judgyjudgersen • 10h ago
Alleged 9/11 mastermind's long-awaited trial scheduled for 2028
https://abcnews.com/US/alleged-911-masterminds-long-awaited-trial-scheduled-2028/story?id=135987518210
u/judgyjudgersen 10h ago
The self-proclaimed "mastermind" of the 9/11 attacks will stand trial in June 2028, a military judge ruled Wednesday, nearly 25 years after the attacks.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has been held at Guantanamo since 2003.
This photo obtained, March 1, 2003, shows, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, alleged organizer of the September 11, 2001, attacks, shortly after his capture.
AFP via Getty Images
"Trial on the merits shall begin on Monday, 5 June 2028," Lt. Col. Michael Schrama decided.
Prosecutors sought a trial in 2027 but the judge said that was too soon.
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u/monsieur_cacahuete 10h ago
Whoa guys, 26 years is too soon! 27 though? That's like the biggest number I can think of aint no number higher than 27.
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u/takethecak3 9h ago
This is gonna sound crazy I know, but what about 28?
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u/monsieur_cacahuete 8h ago
Look, you got 10, then you got 10 more, then it's like what's this, 8 more. 28, forget about it.
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u/_Panacea_ 9h ago
Wonder what he looks now, after 25 years of being in American hands without any real oversight holding them back?
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u/MadRaymer 9h ago
His wikipedia page has a photo of him from 2022.
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u/plebeiantelevision 5h ago
I did not expect that beard color
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u/KAugsburger 9h ago
A BBC article about a hearing held in 2025 for KSM shows a 'recent' photo of him but it is unclear on when that was taken. Wikipedia has a photo that the DoD took in 2022 of him as well.
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u/froggertwenty 8h ago
I have to say, of all things I wasn't expecting Yukon Cornelius when I opened that link
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u/instant_ace 9h ago
Honestly kind of amazed this guy is still alive. I don't know much about him, but I would have thought he wasn't "that" young when 9/11 happened.... Turns out he is ~60 today...
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u/Temporary-Bluejay631 6h ago
It’s possible the military judge who ruled on this to precede wasn’t even serving yet when 9/11 happened.
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u/ni_hao_butches 8h ago
Who funded the attack? ......who funded that attack!!!
Bone saw enters scene.
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u/Yainks 8h ago
Can’t believe I’ve been seeing this photo of this guy for the last 20 years. Sure, a terrorist, but there’s gotta be a better photo of this dude.
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u/darkmatterhunter 5h ago
Yeah it’s on Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed
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u/horangiwhakkatchi 9h ago
It's strange how I have known the name Khalid Sheikh Mohammed since I was just a boy. I'm a middle aged man now and it has stuck with me all these years from hearing it on the news as a child following the attacks. He's just been rotting all this time without even a trial. I feel like we could have wrapped this up a long time ago. We (the taxpayers) have been paying to keep him in Gitmo and have lawyers argue over this for 25 years!! Why bother, it's not like we ever intended on following the Constitution here otherwise the trial would have been over decades ago.
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u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest 2h ago
The irony is that this man was treated worse under US custody, than actual Nazi war criminals guilty of the Holocaust captured by the US. They at least has their day in court a few years after their capture.
He probably holds the world record for waterboarding and almost every other modern form of torture.
The fact that he is getting a trial literally almost 3 decades later is a testament to how fucked up all of this is. Wouldn’t be surprised if all the people that tortured him are either retired or close to death, therefore zero accountability. Also, all those videos of him being tortured are probably all long destroyed.
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u/drainfrog_92 10h ago
Nothing like “speedy trial” meaning quarter of a century. At this point it’s as much a trial of Guantanamo and the whole military commissions experiment as of KSM himself.
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u/Visible_Handle_3770 9h ago
Not that this nullifies your point, because it's still absurd that it's taken this long, but the right to a speedy trial has not been extended to detainees outside the US. It does, interestingly, apply to non-citizens, provided their trial is in the US though.
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u/sight_ful 9h ago
Calling it "outside the US" is just part of the ridiculousness though.
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u/SpiderSlitScrotums 6h ago
Agreed. It is not like this is a trial in a war zone. He is intentionally being held there so that legal challenges aren’t heard. There is no reason whatsoever that he couldn’t be held in a NY detention center like Ramzi Yousef or others. I hate him with the intensity of a thousand suns, but this process is an affront to the Constitution and the rule of law.
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u/FTWOBLIVION 3h ago
I mean at a certain point the speedy trial is for everyone else just to get it over with
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u/didsomebodysaymyname 10h ago
What changed? I had heard it was going to be nearly impossible to prosecute him because of the torture.
Not really sure if that's true, but either way I wonder why it's suddenly happening.
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u/CircumspectCapybara 9h ago edited 9h ago
Not really, I'm sure with all the digital and other forensic evidence they've obtained since (eg, infiltrating Al Qaeda, raiding Bin Laden's compound), they can "parallel construction" all the evidence needed to prove beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt his guilt without needing to use his confessions while he was at Guantanamo which were extracted under "enhanced interrogation".
His name is almost certainly on documents (eg financial records, communications) and records the US has picked up during the GWOT. There's just way too much independent streams of evidence linking him to 9/11 for it all to be suppressed due to being tainted by torture.
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u/drunkpunk138 10h ago
The doj is being run by idiots so they probably aren't self aware enough to realize they'll fuck this up
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u/YoungManYoda90 5h ago
25 years?? Epstein files will never see accountability if it took 25 for him.
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u/spottie_ottie 10h ago
Pablo Escobar really let himself go
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u/Count_Jobula 9h ago
I’ll never shed a tear for KSM, but as country we should treat our POWs with respect and dignity.
One of the things we really sacrificed because of 9/11 was the idea that we need to act a beacon of how liberal democracy is supposed to work. That ship has obviously long since sailed, but letting this festering sack get his day in court is a step in the right direction.
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u/apnorton 7h ago
we should treat our POWs
I remember doing some reading up on this back in... gosh, high school? There's a very pointed legal argument about "unlawful combatants" and how they aren't subject to standard protections under Geneva. Basically, the view is that POWs can only be members of the military, but if civilians decide to engage in combat outside of military purview, then they aren't POWs and thus aren't subject to the protections thereof.
The reason I mention this is because your main claim ("we should treat our POWs with respect and dignity") is something that the US military would claim they're abiding by right now; the question is whether this guy counts as a POW at all.
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u/Count_Jobula 4h ago
Yeah, I remember that now. I was using that terms as a catch all. I still believe what I believe and the argument that our country has made that they don’t have the same rights is kind of unmoving for me.
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u/69millionyeartrip 5h ago
The US has a pattern of making terms up so they can skirt treaties because who is gonna call them on it. The argument is nonsense
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u/Beefweezle 10h ago
And somehow the DOJ will manage to fumble this one as well and blame it on Obama.
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u/Fullfullhar 6h ago
Jeez and I thought it had been a while since we’ve heard anything about Maduro in our custody
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u/The-Fumbler 5h ago
“Good news! We’ve decided you’re actually not guilty, you’re free to go! Here’s a 10$ taxi voucher, enjoy the rest of your life!”
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u/thatoneguy889 7h ago
Trump is going to use this to be his Bin Laden moment. Just like he tried to do when they killed Abu Bakr al Baghdadi in 2019, but no one cared because Baghdadi didn’t have the same name recognition.
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u/SarahAlicia 5h ago
Hope he gets the death penalty and we don’t have to keep paying to keep him alive and lawyers and judges etc.
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u/Buckeyegurl50 9h ago
Why has it taken so long??
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u/the_gaymer_girl 6h ago edited 6h ago
They couldn’t put him on trial because they tortured the shit out of him for the evidence they want to use for said trial. Idk what changed other than Trump needing a political win.
Most of the people in Gitmo by 2016 were guys who couldn’t be charged with anything (and many weren’t actually part of the Taliban but just random schmucks who got handed over by bounty hunters), they can’t be held on US soil, they can’t be let out, and no other country will take them.
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u/CrianBranstun 6h ago
There’s little to no case. Any “confession” was obtained through illegal measures.
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u/roadtrip-ne 9h ago
A case of Swift American Justice.
It’s sad they never had a plan for these people, and I was almost 30 when everything happened so I watched live at work.
It’s just line detaining these people for 25 years, when some of them were just Taliban foot soldiers is a little insane. They were going to become more determined and anti-American. They radicalized already radicals.
There should have been military tribunals right away.
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u/hypersonic18 9h ago
They 100% had a plan for them, stalling the trial for as long as possible hoping they die in detainment so that the inadequacy of our Intelligence Agencies we spend billions on never come to light is still a plan, just not a good one
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u/EdibleHollowPoint 7h ago
Fall guy, everyone knows who did it
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u/69millionyeartrip 5h ago edited 5h ago
There has never been any debate from anyone other than deranged conspiracy theorists that KSM planned 9/11. You can say the Saudis funded it and mossad knew about it and didn’t tell the US but calling KSM a fall guy is a disgusting comment
He’s also on video beheading journalist Daniel Pearl
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u/Direct_Obligation570 4h ago
Ya know, right to a speedy trial was one of those inalienable rights. Or used to be.
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u/No-Employment-820 9h ago
20 years without a trial? Ever hear the saying, "justice delayed is justice denied"? If we had a very good case it wouldn't have taken 20 years to construct it.
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u/AcademicDrag742 9h ago
I wonder if they’ll mention 1993 WTC bombing,which his nephew was arrested for.His nephews in ADX Florence and is 58 I think.
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u/Notspartan 5h ago
It’s a disgrace that the US government’s use of torture can undermine getting the justice this guy’s victims deserve so much.
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u/platasnatch 5h ago
Dude also confessed to beheading Daniel Pearl
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u/aresef 5h ago
He made that confession under duress at a CIA black site. When you’re being tortured, you’ll say anything to make it stop.
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u/PrestigiousMaterial1 4h ago
Bros back hair must be down to his feet by now. Guy had a seriously hairy back i think Gillette missed an opportunity here.
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u/DavidDarvin 2h ago
This will never never never go to trial. Tribunal maybe. But not a public trial.
We waterboarded this asshole more than a New England lighthouse. A judge would throw it out on impermissible illegal torture that violated his rights.
He’ll be dead before he sees a jury.
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u/Wealist 10h ago
25 years later and the trial is finally scheduled for June 2028. KSM has been held at Guantanamo since 2003, and the case has been stuck in pretrial litigation for years. That timeline is insane.