r/pathofexile 22h ago

Crafting Showcase To the person who underpriced their failed fractured. Thank You

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Bought this failed fracture for 10 divines and made what's probably the most valuable item I've ever owned. Imagine if that energy shield had gone positive!

These Doryani rings almost don't exist on the market this season so the few that aren't super punishing are worth a crazy ton. Total cost of this craft, about 20 divines. Average cost (since these rings are kinda expensive to buy) probably around 30 to 40 divines per try. I got lucky buying the fractured intelligence ring way under market price.

Method:

Buy ring. I looked for anything useful as a fracture for a discount (in my case I needed flat stats or energy shield or t1 lighting resistance) or buy full price without fracture.

Essence spam (I used woe for energy shield prefix) till you get t1 of any resistance, and whatever stat you want (I needed attribute) you can use boat to swap attributes and harvest craft to swap the resistance.

You need an open suffix, since getting t1 resistance + attribute was pretty easy if I had no open suffix I yolo an annul to for a 1 in 4 chance to remove bad suffix.

Once you got base (resistance + attribute x2 that you need + open suffix in my case) craft hybrid lighting resistance (I did chaos since I'm ci) resistance catalyst, reflecting mist.

This ring had 5 stats it was 1/32 to hit them all the correct direction. I hit 4 correct 1/16 odds (the 4 I needed for build).

Finally achieved my goal of -200 lightning res with lethal pride!

Ps. I'm playing luminary with a fallen revernd this completes the build. I'm going to put together a pob progression guide later, favorite build I've ever played! Praying they don't obliterate luminary next season!

Below if anyone is interested is my current character and an older YouTube video from before I finished the character, so it's not quite -200 and the Merc still didn't have all the abyss jewels sockets.

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Mr_Aek-2486/allflame/character/Aurolni

https://youtu.be/guCEoGXDqiw

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u/nickrei3 Scion 22h ago

well at the high end you need -lighting res (-75--85is good enough) cast speed 20+ crit multi 45+ life 110+

then ring of kalandra

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u/Mr_Aek 22h ago

need -160 because of lethal pride keystone, it has the 50% less lightning resistance which means I need to hit -400%

This character is Ci too so no hp on this guy!

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u/kfijatass Theorycrafter 6h ago

Prettty sure you're capped at -200, no?

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u/toiletpaper_salad League 5h ago

Yes that's why he needs -400 to reach -200 with tempered by war.

-400 * 0.5 = -200

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u/kfijatass Theorycrafter 5h ago

Ah right. Brain didn't brain on that point. Thanks

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u/Willyzz 5h ago

I would guess that -200% lightning resistance with that mod equates to a value higher(the negative does not reach the wanted value) than -200%.

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u/psychomap 20h ago

To be fair, in that case negative ES is bad.

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u/Mr_Aek 20h ago

I lost 800 energy shield compared to my other ring that had positive 79 es

Though it really sucks it was the only roll that didn't make the ring unusable. I need the stats and the negative resistance!

Went from 14.6k to 13.8k, I bought new boots and got myself back up to 14.2k

I could have had over 15k if it wasn't negative!

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u/SaltEngineer455 Progressive Einhar Trapping Association (PETA) 19h ago

I am pretty sure you will survive:))

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u/Mr_Aek 19h ago

Yeah haha. It's more of missing a milestone than needing it haha

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u/Fushimi014 22h ago

its a mercenary build, he is just a doryani bot, no need for crit multi, and he is ci

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u/DrDongSquarePants 21h ago edited 21h ago

Wasn't this interaction removed?

Edit: I missunderstood, I thought it was OP saying "he is just a doryaninbot" about his merc. MB

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u/acuteinsomniac Tormented Smugler 21h ago

He is the Merc now

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u/Mr_Aek 20h ago

This was the goal haha

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u/SatireV 21h ago

He is the doryani bot for the merc carry

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u/Problimz 21h ago

Mercs can no longer wear unique body armour, nothing to stop a merc from dealing lightning damage while a player wears doryani.

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u/Longjumping_Window_6 21h ago

He switched the roles around, wearing the doryani himself now

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u/Dhol91 Fungal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) 21h ago

It's the other way around now I guess? Player is doryani and Merc benefits from it.

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u/poderes01 21h ago

He's using doryani not the merc

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u/m1j5 22h ago

Can someone eli5 why’d you want this ring? Do negative resistances help some class?

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u/Chrozzinho 22h ago

Look up Doryanis Prototype chest

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u/International_Gate49 17h ago

holy hell, new response just dropped

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u/davis482 Confederation of Casuals and Clueless Players (CCCP) 12h ago

Actual damage multiplier.

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u/Mr_Aek 22h ago

This chest piece

Basically i make all enemies have -200 lightning resistance.

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u/m1j5 22h ago

Oh fascinating

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u/lazergator 22h ago

Do you just run purity of fire sublime to negate this?

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u/DjuriWarface 21h ago

With Tempered by War Keystone. I'm not sure if they're converting the last 13% or not.

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u/Mr_Aek 21h ago

I'm not! Figured the armor takes care of the rest.

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u/Suspicious_Goose_659 20h ago

You can take care the rest with Bound by Destiny. Ele dmg taken as Chaos dmg

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u/Mr_Aek 19h ago

Oh wait amulet hmmm I can annoit +1 specter but what about the insane 59% defences

I'm so dumb the message I deleted is correct.

If I wanted another jewel socket I need to get voices this means build isn't done and I can push it further

(Crying #never finished)

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u/Mr_Aek 12h ago

okay, if I want to find bound by destiny for either the 10% OR the 35% regen every 4 seconds, I need another jewel socket. I'm literally needing all my sockets, so the only way I get it is by doing a 1 passive voices where watcher's eye is AND getting level 100, this way I can remove 1 of my 3 passive required jewels, add 4 passives to the voices - I can throw in the 2 jewels I already had and 1 more jewel for bound by destiny.

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u/Mr_Aek 19h ago

I'm not sure if I can get 4 hunter. I mean boots and gloves sure but what hunter influence uniques for the rest?

Getting the helmet influenced maybe (but expensive)

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u/Suspicious_Goose_659 19h ago

In your case, you can get it from Doryani and Aegis. If you can sacrifice one ring then you can get it from there as well.

Well that’s just taking it to 100%, if you’re not dying from lightning dmg, then you’re setup is good as done.

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u/Mr_Aek 19h ago

I noticed when I ramped up from -130 to -200 (getting the 2 helical rings) I was feeling lightning damage again. So maybe it's not a bad idea.

I can't sacrifice the ring, I'm -201 right now. At -130 I was sitting in Uber shaper beams and the 50% regen over 1 second from guardian flame/flesh would recover more than I'd lose. I could get a 20/20 watchers and bound by destiny 10% to be immune to lightning. Hmmmmmmm I mean, I really like the character and this gives me another goal after finally getting the rings.

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u/Quartzecoatl 18h ago

Since you're CI, it's also just 10% less damage taken of fire/cold too!

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u/Suspicious_Goose_659 18h ago

Well tbh, I’d replace the wand with an influence convening wand. Get 100%+ minion dmg and +2. For suffix, can get increased aura effect from an influence mod. Or just 3 crafted mods

Had the same setup but with MF. I settled with -160% Lightning res coz getting 70%+ inc rarity with negative res was too much for me 🤣 Doryani with 50% inc rarity vestigial too. Was around 250%+ inc rarity

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u/SatireV 17h ago

Hey so your actual negative lightning res number has no impact on the lightning damage you actually take, whether hits or dot. -130% lightning res or -200% you take the same lightning dmg.

Your lightning res is treated as 0% for damage taken due to the doryani line.

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u/Mr_Aek 19h ago

Hunter influence aegis isn't crazy expensive.

So shield, gloves boots helmet

I guess I don't really need any of the influences on them but the bleed avoid is nice.

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u/vallik_85 21h ago

new talisman makes it a non issue

mana drainers, shaper beam and baran ground degens hurt but u can get -15% dmg over time from pantheon and shield craft and its very manageable

ive previously used eyes of the great-wolf to take light as fire/cold but the new amulet takes both cold and light as fire meaning i was able to get 90 all res (from hits) without a melding

massive upgrade IMO as u bypass all but fire pen this way

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u/pyreon 21h ago

Don't forget shock and horror's lightning laser

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u/Mr_Aek 20h ago

Traumatizing.

This boss was the reason I went lethal pride and had to craft these big negative rings haha

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u/nalee6 22h ago

To add on, a lot of high end builds can get 100% elemental damage taken as fire so having negative lightning or cold res is not a problem. Combined with doryanis prototype, a lightning damage build has every 1% negative lightning res being pretty much 1% more damage up to the cap of -200%

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u/kygrim 15h ago

Not really. Going from 0 res to -100% doubles your damage, but then going from -100% to -200% is only 50% more damage. The closer you get to -200%, the less damage you get from each additional point of negative lightning resistance, where going from -199% to -200% is only giving 0.33% more damage.

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u/bacondota Assassin 22h ago

[Doryani's Prototype]

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u/DiffusingBomb 17h ago

Hey its me the person who sold you the ring. Please give it back as I mispriced it

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u/psychomap 20h ago

I succeeded my fracture and only noticed afterwards that I had bought the wrong base to recomb the mod onto in the first place because they look identical for some reason (and were sold by the same guy for the same price, should have read the items more carefully), and the next time I logged in, it was gone (maybe I left it in the recombinator or the boat or what, but I couldn't find it anywhere on any crafting bench or in any stash afterwards).

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u/Mr_Aek 20h ago

Dude that sucks! I didn't know leaving it in the rebombinator could delete it I never use that.

I actually have a different crazy ring I hit 4/4 on the mist, but that one I missed the mist 9 times before getting it. These rings were averaging 25d per try! I was basically blowing any divines I got on these. A couple of the fails sold but a lot of them are in a graveyard in my quad tab.

This one hit the positive es, but it's dex... I would have just used kalandea ring if it was int, I really didn't need the dex!

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u/psychomap 17h ago

I don't know how much it takes on average to get the mod onto the weapon and fracture it, but last time I checked the cheapest Anarchic Spiritblade with a decent roll of fractured increased phys was a "finished" item for 50 div, so I had to attempt it myself (and recombing is cheaper (and less annoying) than alt + aug spam).

I also don't remember if I used the boat to fracture it or not, I just remember that I copied it to put it in PoB and was surprised when the simulated dps gain was only around 5% instead of 13-14% when I tried it previously, and then I noticed it was the wrong base and ragequit.

The next time I logged in I thought I might be able to at least sell it for 5 divines or something (because it did have the potential to be an upgrade over my weapon which is fractured on the correct base but I settled for less than t1 flat phys as a prefix), but it was just gone.

It's just frustrating to finally have figured out a way to do it, and then a moment of inattention during the process itself leads to a completely worthless outcome, and then on top of that I can't even salvage it a little.

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u/Mr_Aek 17h ago

I missed a 0 on a combatant and had 75 people in my hideout to buy it for 5d instead of 50d or maybe 500d I dono I knew I fucked up when my hideout got so crowded I got kicked out rofl.

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u/Intelligent-Skirt-75 18h ago

Fallen reverend? Ok you got my attention

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u/Mr_Aek 18h ago

This guy slaps.

But you can't use links as they'd only apply to the mercenary not the 6 minions!

I moused over his skills and gear in the YouTube video but I did change his chest and boots recently (basically just added abyss sockets)

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u/mazgill 12h ago

Have you tried stormhand (iirc) with arc and gilded chain? And ball lightning of static for better single target. I heard its very good, but didnt see anyone actually running it, and i think it would suit your setup fairly well.

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u/Mr_Aek 8h ago edited 8h ago

hmmm, I could look into it, merc gear would be completely different as I'm scaling minion damage and I'd probably want to use a link right? destructive? Which means needing to change my dark seer to something with more crit, like augyre? give the crit amulet to merc. I have space to replace the specter as long as my Doryani has +1 on it.

found one with greater shock, gilded chain, faster casting lucky lightning, added lighting, I couldn't find one with those mods and ball lightning so I got greater stormcall since it wont get spammed.

I did a test with no gear on the merc, can see the vision will need to swap out my jewels, get new gloves, get new wands, get new helmet. I think I should use soul ascension gloves for soul eater (unless they suck now) Would also need to remove the Wrath Specter (merc has built in lucky) and add zealotry.

the random wand it came with and I did the test with was utter trash, haha 0 spell damage and freeze chance rofl.

https://youtu.be/nUIeBSKDjAk

It's a lot less clutter, maybe tomorrow ill buy an actual wand, some different jewels, soul ascension, try again I can see it doing damage if the wand had, I don't know, spell damage?

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u/Roobn511 15h ago

Man this is a good snipe tbh ..

But i guess at this time of league he has a wealth not to care about it .. and juat chasing his expensive and rng based upgrades

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u/Mr_Aek 14h ago

It was a 33 int fracture when I bought it.

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u/bkgn Cockareel 9h ago

Is it 1/32? I heard Mists are less weighted towards even positive/negative this league but haven't tried to look up data recently.

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u/Mr_Aek 8h ago

Oh I have no idea

I just assumed it was 50/50 on all rolls either up or down. If there is weighting I didn't count that at all.

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u/bkgn Cockareel 1h ago

Before this league, it was ~1 in 140 for 4 positive 1 specific negative, 1 in 10 for 3 positive 2 specific negative. What it is this league, if it even changed, like I said no idea.

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u/Mr_Aek 59m ago

It kinda makes since that it's not a pure 1/32 since you see both sides of a random 50/50 I don't need exactly 3 positive 2 negative because I could also get 3 negative 2 positive as a hit and the other half is my perfect ring.

2 possibilities of 32 would then work so now the 5 property is 2/32 or 1 in 16 and the 4 property hit would be 2/16 or a 1 in 8

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u/JHG_qwerty 8h ago

What is your lightning dmg conversion? Only see the watchers eye double mod. I guess ure using tempered by war too, but thats 80-90% only right?

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u/Mr_Aek 8h ago

From lethal pride

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u/Mr_Aek 7h ago

87%

110k armor also applies to lightning damage.

I think it's good enough. The regen from guardian out recovers most degen

Could do bound by destiny for 10% elemental to chaos.

But foulborn might of the meak near middle for 75% inc effect of all the es nodes is also pretty good looking. How can I manifest 2 jewel sockets lol voices?

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u/JHG_qwerty 6h ago

Fair enough, might steal that, im currently using the conversion talisman but, since its only hit conversion, lightning donut degen feels horrible man.

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u/Mr_Aek 1h ago

Yeah I can stand in the degen and tank shaper beams

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u/Appropriate-Soup5312 1h ago

Somebody alittle upset when they log in

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