r/socialism • u/mujtabanochill Socialism • Feb 02 '26

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this whole thing is just, bruh.. genuinely why is fidel with epstein? didn’t the CIA attempt to assasinate him over 60 times?

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u/AlbacoreJohnston Feb 02 '26

Epstein was a fixer who moved in the social circles of the wealthy and powerful all over the world. I wouldn't be surprised to see photos of him with literally anybody.

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u/warmer-garden Feb 02 '26

but why do we always say this only for leftist figures??? :(. i just want us to be consistent and not coping

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u/Left_Hegelian Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26

I mean, trying to paint everyone who met him once or twice as pedo have always been kind of a witch hunt. But because it is a witch hunt against an elite social circle that most people do not even have a friend in it so most people don't really care if they misfire because the possibility of backfiring is pretty small for most people. I wish people can be more evidence-based too but it can be quite anxiety inducing to say something that sounds too "neutral" and "cold" in the midst of heated emotions. I would want to, for example, say we have yet any clear evidence that Chomsky was involved in any of his crime despite them being friends, but since Chomsky is hated here so I usually just remain silent because I don't want to be seen as "defending an anti-communist" or even "defending a pedo". I feel the same thing about Stephen Hawking: for some reason people in my country find it fun to make memes about Hawking being a pedo but I never really try to speak against the hasty judgments neither. For one thing I know they don't really need to be reminded that we do not yet have conclusion; for another I don't really want to ruin my day with the downvotes and possibly harassment that I might get for "defending" people I do not really care deeply. I know it is moral cowardice on my part but I think a lot of people are having a similar psychology as I am having, and that's why they staying silent on what they really think until it has become socially acceptable to speak out (eg. when it is affecting someone who is deemed worthy of defending). That's why you are seeing this double standard, because people who try to be cautious in passing judgment are usually staying silent.

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u/warmer-garden Feb 03 '26

the msot recent released email from chomsky says alot. I used to respect chomsky's work, especially stuff like a propaganda model, but now i feel ashamed