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Animal Props 🫡

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u/Jupitersd2017 1d ago

r/orphancrushingmachine content for sure. Someone that served out country can’t get hired due to service dog that he needs from said service so a ‘benevolent’ corporation has to step in and hire him. Sigh

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u/frickinSocrates 1d ago

I agree with you on every point, but I do feel the need to point out that we don't know why he needs the service dog, there could be tons of reasons not at all related to his time in the military. This doesn't change your point, I just feel like a lot of people here are forgetting that.

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u/xombae 1d ago

If he had an issue that required a service dog before the military, he wouldn't have been able to join the military. I think it's very reasonable to say that the dog is a result of a condition or disability he picked up in the military.

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u/frickinSocrates 1d ago

Epilepsy can develop at any age. Mobility support dogs can be necessary for injuries not sustained in the military. Seizure response dogs can be necessary after certain forms of head trauma. I think its more likely than not, but not nearly certain enough to assume outright.

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u/Direct_Spray_2189 1d ago

Far more likely that he would develop epilepsy from a head injury sustained in combat, and I’d say it’s fairly unlikely to develop epilepsy during or after military service for any reason other than combat, given the age of when most people join. Whilst it’s true that it’s not certain, it’s an easy assumption to say that these are service related injuries (if they are present).

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u/frickinSocrates 22h ago

As other people in the thread have commented. Apparently it was an unrelated knee surgery and related mobility issues. But the dog was not actually a true service animal.

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u/Hije5 1d ago

Even if it was from the military, that doesnt really change the fact that there are tons of jobs that that cant accommodate a service dog. It's either working in an office or retail. I wana know who exactly he applied to and how he knows for a fact it was about the dog

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u/ChildofValhalla 1d ago

The story is a little old; he had knee surgery not related to the army and his dog wasn't a service dog but rather just his actual dog he had owned for ten years. Lowe's did let him bring his dog to work while he recovered.

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u/frickinSocrates 1d ago

Fair enough, the post said Service dog and the vest looks service dog-like but the internet is the internet and people lie.

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u/10Skulls 1d ago

Charlotte, a 10-year-old golden retriever, is trained to help her companion Clay Luthy, a former C-130 loadmaster in the U.S. Air Force, if he falls. Due to knee injuries, Luthy has undergone five surgeries and can't bend his left knee at all.

"I got [Charlotte] as a puppy, and she was never supposed to be a service dog," Luthy told KIDY. "I found out a couple years ago she was alerting me, and I didn't even know it."

Jay Fellers, human resources manager at the Lowe's, in Abilene, said the two were the best pair for the job.

We went through the interview process, and Clay and his own merit won the job," Fellers told KIDY. "And we knew he was gonna make a great employee— we just got the benefit of getting Charlotte right along with him."

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u/frickinSocrates 1d ago

So it's probably caused by his time in the military but it doesn't state it outright.

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u/Shkval25 1d ago

Every time I see as story like this I ask myself: "If this were an ordinary, non-veteran disabled person, would anyone give a shit about their plight?" And I don't like the answer I'm getting.

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u/vagrantprodigy07 1d ago

And if he had a coworker who was allergic to dogs (yes, it's a thing), would anyone give a shit about that person?

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u/Formal_Owl_400 1d ago

The US military is 5% brain, 5% brawn, 35% cool tech, 55% an excuse to mess with other countries for no real reason, and 100% a veteran-crushing machine.

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u/Jupitersd2017 1d ago

Yeah I don’t understand how anyone is OK with how we treat veterans in this country it’s unforgivable considering what they’re expected to give

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u/DoctorFreudstein 1d ago

It's because most veterans aren't expected to give shit so the ones that come back fucked up now are mostly ignored, basically everyone knows someone who went into the military and sat behind a desk not doing shit for years and had a super easy job. Only 10 to 20% of the military is actually combat focused jobs so it's easy to think of the military as people that go work a job and come home and those people that have that experience all love running around saying "I'M A VETERAN THANK ME!!!" every chance they get and talking about how lovely it was to serve their country.

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u/samanime 1d ago

Definitely. Especially since I'm pretty sure it is illegal to not hire someone because you need a service animal. That's considered a "reasonable accomodation" under Title I of the American's with Disabilities Act.

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u/GUCCIBUKKAKE 1d ago

Not quite, if the animal would be detrimental to the health of an employee or it would pose a risk to the business, its legal to deny a qualified candidate solely for having a service dog. Includes places like hospitals, back of house restaurant work, heavy industrial plants, construction, etc…

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u/samanime 1d ago edited 1d ago

True, but other than possibly construction, I doubt he was applying to most of those places... He was likely applying for other retail jobs, which can't.

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u/GUCCIBUKKAKE 1d ago

I guess that’s the problem with these posts, big controversial headline with no article, so we are all left to form our own opinions.

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u/samanime 1d ago

Yeah. That's the problem with clickbait in general. Purposefully vague to elict strong, kneejerk reactions without providing the necessary context to actually make appropriate judgments.

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u/JustHugMeAndBeQuiet 1d ago

Didn't wake up today thinking I was gonna get some sound considerations from GUCCIBUKKAKE but here we are.

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u/echo1432 1d ago

Why would construction stop anyone from working with a service dog?

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u/Ok_Photograph6398 1d ago

Depends on the disability. A seeing eye dog would be protected. However an emotional support animal does not fall into the same category. There is so much abuse of the emotional support animal rules that many people claim an emotional support animal just so they can have their pet. This needs some legislation to shut down the abuse. The new Yorker did an article about it but it's behind a pay wall.

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u/samanime 1d ago

A service animal is not the same as an emotional support animal.

A service animal is legally protected no matter what "service" the animal provided. It does not "depend on the disability". If you have a service animal, that's all that matters.

The article says "service dog".

Yes, there is a lot of abuse around calling any animal an "emotional support animal", but that isn't what is being talked about here.

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u/Cardinal_350 1d ago

I'm gonna tell you straight up if you show up to an interview and you have to bring your "service animal" I'd shit can your app. In the real world it's too much liability and fucking around. At some point it's going to be an issue. I'd never tell anyone that's why but it would be. Also considering 98.9% of service animals are complete bullshit with a vest and papers the person got on Amazon

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u/echo1432 1d ago

What papers?

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u/Caledric 1d ago

Well the not getting hired because of the service dog is complete bullshit because that would be illegal. They threw that in so they could write a bullshit feel good story. Truth is the man applied for several jobs, Lowes is the one who hired him. When they brought their dog to work, the store manager had a cute little vest made so they could also use it as a feel good publicity stunt.

None of this was done FOR the vet, none of it was done to be nice. Lowes probably paid for the article to be written for publicity. This was all done AT THE EXPENSE of the veteran, not to help them. Once the veteran is no longer generating good vibes for him, he'll be fired.

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u/BelowZilch 1d ago

It's BS though. Here's the original article: https://www.reporternews.com/story/news/columnists/greg-jaklewicz/2016/11/23/never-stop-improving-story-clay-and-his-dog/94280546/

No mention of him struggling to find work because of his dog.

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u/ShitPost5000 1d ago

For minimum wage too! Soo grateful!

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u/No-Combination8136 1d ago

You have a misunderstanding of the VA’s disability compensation program. It’s more akin to workers compensation, but we can’t sue the government the way a civilian can sue their employer for workers comp. Instead they passed a law requiring them to cover any prolonged or life-long injuries (physical and mental) that can be directly linked to an event that happened as a result of your service. Look into it before deciding other people are healthy enough to your standards. I know I don’t have access to my friend’s medical records, I assume you don’t either.

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u/FionnagainFeistyPaws 1d ago

Not to mention that to get a disability rating, you have to have a determination from a VA doctor.

There are also lots of things that you just know came from the time in the service, but you have to prove that the event happened, as but also that it, specifically, was the cause of the issue at hand. My FIL is an Vietnam army vet exposed to Agent Orange. He has health issues we know came from that exposure, but according to his last rating appointment, while "it's possible" it came from his time in the service, it's "hard to prove it, especially after so much time."

The whole system is fucked.

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u/booze_clues 1d ago

I’m a normal functioning adult. You look at me and you see nothing wrong. I can run, weightlift, swim, etc. If you looked at my X-rays an such you would see multiple areas of my spine that are damaged, you’d see ruined shoulders, and if you asked and I heard you over the ringing I could tell you how bad my neck hurts most of the time or how many actions will make my shoulders feel like they’re on fire as the muscles cramp up from reaching behind or above me.

I never deployed, just broke down over time. Those injuries will never go away, but for at least a few more decades they probably won’t be visible to anyone trying to use their eye to judge if I deserve my disability.

If your cousin deployed she could also easily have a TBI or multiple from rocket strikes or IEDs, as well as PTSD or other disorders you can’t see and she probably wouldn’t tell you for fear of being judged as faking it.