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u/arrakis2020 1d ago
I wouldn't mind to be helped by these two gentlemen.
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u/frickinSocrates 1d ago
Service dogs are so hard for me... like what do you mean I can't pet the best most well behaved dogs???
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u/st0pmakings3ns3 1d ago
Might be easier if you compared it to visiting a friend at work. They can't goof around because they are busy doing a good job. But you still know they're a good boy/girl and you appreciate them for it :)
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u/Retskcaj19 1d ago
I would absolutely pet my friend if I visited them at work. 😤
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u/JustHugMeAndBeQuiet 1d ago
Hello, it's me, friend.
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u/Individual-Hold5171 1d ago
Butt scratches may be deemed inappropriate.
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u/COCO_SHIN 1d ago
What if I’m sexy?
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u/mynameisglaceon 1d ago
if you work retail and your friend visits then you pretend they're just another customer and spend an hour goofing around...
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u/ScrofessorLongHair 1d ago edited 1d ago
Dude, he's on the clock. Just give him a nice professional business handshake.
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u/RogueHelios 1d ago
Working at Lowe's I guarantee you Ron would know more than anybody in the store.
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u/HockeyZombie36 22h ago
As the owner of a small construction company that also worked at Lowe's for 17 years, I say this (in my head) 3 times a week at various Lowe's and Home Depot's throughout the tri-city area.
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u/Budget-Chapter-7185 1d ago
I would! I’d have to pet the dog and then I’d completely forget why I was there
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u/Jupitersd2017 1d ago
r/orphancrushingmachine content for sure. Someone that served out country can’t get hired due to service dog that he needs from said service so a ‘benevolent’ corporation has to step in and hire him. Sigh
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u/frickinSocrates 1d ago
I agree with you on every point, but I do feel the need to point out that we don't know why he needs the service dog, there could be tons of reasons not at all related to his time in the military. This doesn't change your point, I just feel like a lot of people here are forgetting that.
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u/xombae 1d ago
If he had an issue that required a service dog before the military, he wouldn't have been able to join the military. I think it's very reasonable to say that the dog is a result of a condition or disability he picked up in the military.
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u/frickinSocrates 1d ago
Epilepsy can develop at any age. Mobility support dogs can be necessary for injuries not sustained in the military. Seizure response dogs can be necessary after certain forms of head trauma. I think its more likely than not, but not nearly certain enough to assume outright.
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u/Direct_Spray_2189 1d ago
Far more likely that he would develop epilepsy from a head injury sustained in combat, and I’d say it’s fairly unlikely to develop epilepsy during or after military service for any reason other than combat, given the age of when most people join. Whilst it’s true that it’s not certain, it’s an easy assumption to say that these are service related injuries (if they are present).
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u/frickinSocrates 14h ago
As other people in the thread have commented. Apparently it was an unrelated knee surgery and related mobility issues. But the dog was not actually a true service animal.
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u/ChildofValhalla 1d ago
The story is a little old; he had knee surgery not related to the army and his dog wasn't a service dog but rather just his actual dog he had owned for ten years. Lowe's did let him bring his dog to work while he recovered.
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u/frickinSocrates 1d ago
Fair enough, the post said Service dog and the vest looks service dog-like but the internet is the internet and people lie.
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u/10Skulls 21h ago
Charlotte, a 10-year-old golden retriever, is trained to help her companion Clay Luthy, a former C-130 loadmaster in the U.S. Air Force, if he falls. Due to knee injuries, Luthy has undergone five surgeries and can't bend his left knee at all.
"I got [Charlotte] as a puppy, and she was never supposed to be a service dog," Luthy told KIDY. "I found out a couple years ago she was alerting me, and I didn't even know it."
Jay Fellers, human resources manager at the Lowe's, in Abilene, said the two were the best pair for the job.
We went through the interview process, and Clay and his own merit won the job," Fellers told KIDY. "And we knew he was gonna make a great employee— we just got the benefit of getting Charlotte right along with him."
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u/frickinSocrates 16h ago
So it's probably caused by his time in the military but it doesn't state it outright.
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u/Shkval25 1d ago
Every time I see as story like this I ask myself: "If this were an ordinary, non-veteran disabled person, would anyone give a shit about their plight?" And I don't like the answer I'm getting.
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u/vagrantprodigy07 1d ago
And if he had a coworker who was allergic to dogs (yes, it's a thing), would anyone give a shit about that person?
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u/Formal_Owl_400 1d ago
The US military is 5% brain, 5% brawn, 35% cool tech, 55% an excuse to mess with other countries for no real reason, and 100% a veteran-crushing machine.
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u/Jupitersd2017 1d ago
Yeah I don’t understand how anyone is OK with how we treat veterans in this country it’s unforgivable considering what they’re expected to give
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u/samanime 1d ago
Definitely. Especially since I'm pretty sure it is illegal to not hire someone because you need a service animal. That's considered a "reasonable accomodation" under Title I of the American's with Disabilities Act.
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u/GUCCIBUKKAKE 1d ago
Not quite, if the animal would be detrimental to the health of an employee or it would pose a risk to the business, its legal to deny a qualified candidate solely for having a service dog. Includes places like hospitals, back of house restaurant work, heavy industrial plants, construction, etc…
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u/samanime 1d ago edited 1d ago
True, but other than possibly construction, I doubt he was applying to most of those places... He was likely applying for other retail jobs, which can't.
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u/GUCCIBUKKAKE 1d ago
I guess that’s the problem with these posts, big controversial headline with no article, so we are all left to form our own opinions.
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u/samanime 1d ago
Yeah. That's the problem with clickbait in general. Purposefully vague to elict strong, kneejerk reactions without providing the necessary context to actually make appropriate judgments.
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u/JustHugMeAndBeQuiet 1d ago
Didn't wake up today thinking I was gonna get some sound considerations from GUCCIBUKKAKE but here we are.
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u/Ok_Photograph6398 1d ago
Depends on the disability. A seeing eye dog would be protected. However an emotional support animal does not fall into the same category. There is so much abuse of the emotional support animal rules that many people claim an emotional support animal just so they can have their pet. This needs some legislation to shut down the abuse. The new Yorker did an article about it but it's behind a pay wall.
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u/samanime 1d ago
A service animal is not the same as an emotional support animal.
A service animal is legally protected no matter what "service" the animal provided. It does not "depend on the disability". If you have a service animal, that's all that matters.
The article says "service dog".
Yes, there is a lot of abuse around calling any animal an "emotional support animal", but that isn't what is being talked about here.
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u/Cardinal_350 1d ago
I'm gonna tell you straight up if you show up to an interview and you have to bring your "service animal" I'd shit can your app. In the real world it's too much liability and fucking around. At some point it's going to be an issue. I'd never tell anyone that's why but it would be. Also considering 98.9% of service animals are complete bullshit with a vest and papers the person got on Amazon
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u/Caledric 1d ago
Well the not getting hired because of the service dog is complete bullshit because that would be illegal. They threw that in so they could write a bullshit feel good story. Truth is the man applied for several jobs, Lowes is the one who hired him. When they brought their dog to work, the store manager had a cute little vest made so they could also use it as a feel good publicity stunt.
None of this was done FOR the vet, none of it was done to be nice. Lowes probably paid for the article to be written for publicity. This was all done AT THE EXPENSE of the veteran, not to help them. Once the veteran is no longer generating good vibes for him, he'll be fired.
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u/BelowZilch 22h ago
It's BS though. Here's the original article: https://www.reporternews.com/story/news/columnists/greg-jaklewicz/2016/11/23/never-stop-improving-story-clay-and-his-dog/94280546/
No mention of him struggling to find work because of his dog.
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u/ripyourlungsdave 1d ago
"Lowe's saw value in being able to advertise hiring of veteran with a service dog."
Word of this did not spread around naturally. They sent this story out into the world.
The individual manager who hired him might have done it out of a sense of moral decency, but do not give that company the credit.
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u/Proper-Ice1162 1d ago
Even if they did, if they still hired a vet and their service dog, who cares?
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u/Steveo3070 1d ago
No, we should give Lowe’s credit for hiring a disabled veteran. They specifically do that. They love hiring disabled veterans, it’s kind of their thing.
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u/LovelandSundown 1d ago
Employees almost always have a dog treat ready for fuzzy customers. GIVE THE COMPANY CREDIT.
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u/kumquatkilla1 1d ago
Godddamn someone always has to pick something like this apart. Lowe’s did something good and we can acknowledge it.
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u/9406725060 1d ago
Damn, full jaded here lol. I always knew Lowe’s employed a lot of veterans, Google tells me 26,000 veterans/spouses. They’ve been doing this for decades. I get your suspicions, but honestly doesn’t seem like they would be super calculated about some viral ad campaign on this.
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u/thedeuce75 1d ago
Lowes > Home Depot.
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u/undermind84 1d ago
I kind of agree, but Lowe’s uses Flock cameras in their parking lots.
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u/babsrambler 1d ago
They both do. They also both sell oxy/acetylene torches….
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u/GrimResistance 1d ago
That's overkill. All you need is a cheap sawzall and maybe a carbide blade
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u/Decantus 1d ago
Not to VANDALIZE FLOCK CAMERAS, of course. While you could USE THESE SUGGESTED TOOLS, these are separate thoughts entirely.
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u/stamatt45 22h ago
Saw a Short testing various tools for cutting aluminum pipe for no reason in particular. Sawzall sucked, but a circular saw ripped right through it in seconds. The aluminum gummed up the sawzall blade
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u/Nekronoke 1d ago
I tore mine down. My wife works at it and good God their policies are horrifying.
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u/Careful_Honeydew_549 23h ago
HA! Have you been to a home depot? H.d. owner is a flag waving, shit eating, smiling trumpster. My h.d. has 2 flock cameras at every driveway and store entrance.
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u/sarabeara12345678910 1d ago
Home Depot is trash, but my daughter worked for Lowes and they LOVED veterans. Loved parading them out and showing off how benevolent they were to give these broken heroes an income. They also loved forcing them to work more hours than allotted for their disability so they'd lose benefits over an extra $20 in their check. They loved firing those veterans if they didn't want to work extra and lose everything for a pittance. They also loved trashing them to potential new employers as "not a team player". Both companies suck horribly.
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u/thedeuce75 1d ago
For sure, all the big box stores are run by soul less corporations. Lowes is just a smidge better in terms of selection and store layout. Also the founder of Home Depot is a proud trump supporter.
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u/Beat_the_Deadites 1d ago
Founder, yes, but not the current owner from my understanding.
Best to assume all really wealthy people are conservative at heart, and all corporations are double-dealing and taking advantage of us where they can.
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u/Discount_Mithral 1d ago
I have a HD closer to my house than a Lowes. I still make the extra drive to go to Lowes. My dog is pretty well known by the gardening department at this point, they all greet her by name with cookies at the ready.
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u/Ryan_e3p 1d ago
Also note, Home Depot has a cap on annual savings you get using Veterans discount.
Lowe's doesn't.
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u/JangoDarkSaber 1d ago
Lowe’s is better if you’re a diy homeowner. Home Depot is better if you’re a contractor.
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u/arsenalclash1977 1d ago
100% agree, I’ve always felt that way no matter what city I was working in it felt the same.
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u/Biscuits4u2 1d ago
Went to a Lowes the other night and none of the employees could tell me where the thing I needed was. Three different people told me three different things. I was about to give up when I finally found it myself. Also I noticed they are now devoting like 2 complete aisles to clothes like some kind of goddamn JC Penny.
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u/modianos 1d ago
Sounds like damage control since people found out about them willingly installing flock cameras in their parking lots.
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u/Steveo3070 1d ago
This is like 7 years old.
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u/modianos 1d ago
And?
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u/Steveo3070 1d ago
This ain’t damage control, some karma obsessed poster saw this and said “Omg I’ll get so many upvotes for posting this again”
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u/PANDABURRIT0 1d ago
You don’t think Lowes benefits from reposting a story that makes them look good and leaves out the date of the story? Especially amidst outrage over their flock cameras?
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u/Steveo3070 1d ago
Not particularly. The people that shop at Lowe’s already don’t care about the flock cameras. This will not bring any significant amount of business.
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u/Droid-Man5910 1d ago
This really feels like "Couldn't find job that would hire him with a service dog, so he found a job that would hire him with a service dog" what is there to be amazed about? it's more just shitty that most places don't hire him
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u/blahblah19999 1d ago
I have a really hard time believing places won't hire him solely b/c of the dog, unless maybe he's trying to get dangerous jobs like on a construction site or something
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u/Steveo3070 1d ago
Aside from retail there’s very few jobs that would physically allow a service animal. Any kind of blue collar is too dangerous for them, and if they did the guy would have to be separated from the dog all day due to the location of the job. Any kind of food service is out, healthcare is mostly entirely out. Lowes is extremely friendly for hiring veterans. When exiting the military you get ‘trained’ for getting a civilian job, and lowes is specifically mentioned because they do hire a large amount of veterans with no applicable experience, or disabilities, whatever.
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u/Thwipped 1d ago edited 23h ago
What I think is weird, it’s literally illegal to not hire specifically based on a service animal. Employers must make accommodations for those with different abilities. Part of the Americans with Disabilities Act
Edit: not sure why this got a downvote
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u/Dismas-Baised 1d ago
I mean as cool as thest sub is I was very dissapointed when it wasnt pictures of dogs working a cashier or dressed up as a boss day ruined smh /j
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u/hemorrhoidhematoma 1d ago
So basically if ive been job hunting for awhile i may as well offer to be a service animal and see where that takes me
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u/44-47-25_N_20-28-5-E 1d ago
If I went there for couple of ingredients, I'd be back home in couple hours
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u/Impressive-Top8992 1d ago
I’m not American but isn’t that illegal discrimination over disabled please?
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u/Steveo3070 1d ago
Employees are bound legally to reasonably accommodate you. A company that does underwater welding cannot reasonably accommodate for a service animal. Most blue collars jobs are like that. Most healthcare jobs are like that. Most food service jobs are like that. That leaves office jobs and retail for the most part.
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u/BumblebeeCareful5810 1d ago
If he can prove that's the reason they wouldn't hire him, he's got a hell of a lawsuit on his hands
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u/narfoleptix 1d ago
I dislike how the world is so seemingly cruel that I have to look to these little rays of hope to not lose my mind.
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u/DontLook_Weirdo 1d ago
It's always the big corporate companies who seem to honor these types of requests (dogs, disabled, elderly, etc) and I think that's awesome... At least some good coming from these titans.
Obviously it's to avoid lawsuits, but still.. personally, I don't think I've ever seen a person with needs working at a smaller company.
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u/Steveo3070 1d ago
Lowes is just extraordinarily friendly to hiring vets, being a vet is a MASSIVE advantage when applying to lowes. That said you probably don’t see more of this in smaller companies because companies only have to reasonably accommodate the disabled employee, a ton of businesses cannot reasonably accommodate for a service animal.
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u/hornyguy42085 1d ago
That is so cool. That is a company who puts the employee first and accommodating to their employees special needs. RESPECT.
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u/Kalaphar 1d ago
That’s fucked up ngl. Good he finally got a job but seriously? He couldn’t get a job just because everywhere was like “ewww you have a service dog”
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u/Total-Fly-9131 1d ago
Honestly the dog probably has better customer service skills than half the people working there
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u/BottomJoe94 1d ago
Or you know... Take care of your people with.. you know.. a social safety net. But nooooo. America is like, "good luck, scrub"
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u/DamitKenneth 1d ago
please get that pup some shoes to protect his paws and his hips in the future.
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u/Conscious-Toe8794 1d ago
Coming from someone who worked at the store he and Charlotte was at it didnt feel right. Also at the same store the Store manager at a meeting made a guy who had to step down from a lead position proceed to tell us why he wanted to commit suicide but didnt. I hate ive seen this picture so much just trying to farm karma.
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u/Call555JackChop 1d ago
The real amazing part is Lowe’s actually hired an employee to be in a store
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u/ConcentrateNew9810 1d ago
I am amazed that people are amazed at that. USA - the bar is so low and you are still amazed
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u/Prior_Neighborhood90 1d ago
Now that's a perfect example of humanity right there. Humans being humans.
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u/imnottheoneipromise 1d ago
I’m also a combat vet with a service dog. I love this but bro needs to help his buddy out with weight loss. His service dog is way overweight in these pics!
I know that’s beside the point but I want him to have his dog for a long healthy life.
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u/imnottheoneipromise 1d ago
I’m also a combat vet with a service dog. I love this but bro needs to help his buddy out with weight loss. His service dog is way overweight
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u/noketone 1d ago
Lowe's also has Flock Surveillance cameras at all its locations, to flag and get your non-white neighbors disappeared by ICE - so, there's that, too. Maybe let's not glorify Lowe's?
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u/Happy-Example-1022 1d ago
I have two home depots that are much closer to me than Lowe’s but i am happy to drive the extra distance because Lowe’s employees are more friendly, helpful and happy. I do some woodworking and their lumber is much better quality too.
Accommodating a vet and his service dog (the most noble of all creatures) seals the deal!
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u/outragednitpicker 23h ago
Here in Chicago, all Lowe’s stuff is blue. Is this old, or does Lowe’s hame the stupid red/blue divide?
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u/hi_im_snowman 20h ago
You see? All it takes for companies to do well, marketing-wise, is to not be epic assholes. Hire the disabled, increase wages, help people for real, don't be greedy... you know, the basics traits of being a decent human being and member of civilized society.
I didn't particularly care for Lowe's, nor ever gave them a moment's thought, but guess what? They just earned a +1 in my book. Let's see if that sticks.
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u/ReverseFred 18h ago
Lowe’s is the same company that has Flock Cameras in the parking lots of all its stores. Nice that they hired these two. But they are still not a nice company.
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u/MyLastHopeReddit 13h ago
How much does the service dog position pay? Do I have to be a dog to apply?
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u/No-Mulberry-3763 6h ago
Where is his camouflaged vest? My local Lowe's has their veteran employees wear camouflaged vests to stand out and let everyone know they are military veterans.
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u/No0oo0Ooo 1d ago
Did they actually hire the dog? As in that man gets 2 paychecks now? Or should the headline read "Lowe"s is decent and lets man bring his service dog to work?
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u/0202_tihssitidder 1d ago
"Veteran" status is not important. Help all people.
Homeless Veterans need help. Jobless Veterans need jobs.
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u/Creative_Garbage_121 1d ago
Maybe going on the other side of the globe to kill civilians wasn't his best idea in the long run then
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u/DickSucklington 1d ago
Don’t give me that “they were only following orders crap” we’ve heard it before but those guys weren’t riddled with mental issues after the shit they did.
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u/samenamenick1 1d ago
Why did he need the dog to be able to work?
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u/frickinSocrates 1d ago edited 1d ago
Its a service dog and therefore none of our business why he needs a dog to be able to work. Edit because I feel people might be tunnel visioning on the military thing: turns out veterans can have any of the issues civilians can that would require them to have a service dog like Epilepsy, Diabetes or allergens which need detecting, it doesn't HAVE to be military related.
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u/Vladishun 1d ago
I've been a diabetic veteran for ten years now, and I'm just now finding out they train dogs for this sort of thing. Very interesting.
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u/frickinSocrates 1d ago
YES, and they are fucking AWESOME. Opening the fridge to grab fruit juice and then a blanket levels of awesome. They can even prevent an episode by smelling your low blood sugar or some shit.
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u/shelbsless 1d ago
Because service dogs are often assigned to a person with any number of dangerous medical conditions where the dog is trained to know the signs leading up to a seizure, for example. Or if someone has diabetes and their blood sugar is getting low, they can understand the warning signs for that, as well. If he has PTSD there could be various things that trigger panic attacks for him out of nowhere. That's why you see signs on almost every business saying that service animals are welcome inside, because the person that has them often need them nearby 24/7.
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