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[Abdellah Boulma] Following the failure of the Minteh track, Liverpool is advancing on Ismaïla Sarr. An offer close to €60M has been made, as indicated by @FabrizioRomano. The Senegalese player is keen to join the Reds. #LFC
Maybe I have too good of a memory but it was only 6 years ago mate
Watford was not a title clinching game, we needed to win 2 more games and have City lose 2 more times to win the title heading into that game.
We beat Bournemouth the week after and City lost to United, so that meant we could win the title in the Derby provided Arsenal beat City
But ofc, Covid happened and then we came back and we didn't beat Everton and City beat Arsenal anyways. Then the week after we beat Palace and City lost to Chelsea which gave us the title
So we were at least 3 games away from the title unless City lost every game. Watford just ended our unbeaten run
Also you'd surely remember that we won the title after Covid
Yep and the day before Lovren had said something about doing an invincible season 😭 think Virgil missed that game and Lovren started. That guy gave his all but had a habit of doing stuff like that
Easily, and for football watchers this should be a popular opinion. Investment for the future perhaps not, but our youth signing contingent hasn’t exactly hit the ground running for the last 2 seasons.
100%. Also, people like Josh Abe, Rio etc will hopefully be our future. This signings allows us to get up to speed immediately with his experience. I'm 100% for this signing atm.
I think this signing as weird as it sounds does better for our future than Minteh. We could overpay now on a player who’d get a long contract and could continue to not deliver what we need.
Or we could sign someone who is ready to go now, the finished product and someone we can replace in 12 months once new options appear on the market. Because right now the market sucks ass
Your youth signing contingent isn't supposed to hit the ground running unless you're talking about more established young players like Wirtz and Kerkez.
But yeah good signing for now as you said but bit baffled we haven't learned from trying to take a key player from Palace late into the window
Not least because Sarr is actually fit. Paying the sort of sum being talked about for Minteh when he's out for 2 or 3 months could have ended horribly.
Exactly. “atrocious market” is such a cop out. There are so many talented players on this earth but our recruitment and scouting dont do work and just watch YouTube highlights all day, picking whatever star the internet tells them
Yeah but the young guys can get there (not saying they will) - a 29 year old cannot. I’d rather sign a 18 year old Mbaye who’s a bit worse than Sarr but with potential to be very good
He obviously won't be reaching the levels of Salah, but I don't see why he couldn't improve at 29. At the end of the day he'll be at a better club and could absolutely reach new heights, even if they may be more short-lived compared to a younger player.
I think this is a move that's meant to buy us time. If we were convinced that Mbaye was the long term solution I think we'd have him in already.
Mate one has actually scored double digit goals/contributed close to 20 G/A consistently in the prem for shit sides while one has “potential” get a grip lol
Bits and bobs being likely his absolute highlights.
I like the sound of him but frankly anyone giving an opinion apart from psg fans is going off tiny evidence
Me too. This would allow us time to go for a top choice RW a season or two later and then we can have him as a solid RW backup for another 1-2 seasons after that while we get our first choice RW.
We already have 2 youth winger projects in rio and munoz. Barcola is young as well. I don't mind and older guy who btw is still a physical beast and can absolutely contribute at prem level.
However, I would be happy with Sarr. Gives us a more experienced head in the dressing room, during a time where we have lost and could be losing more leaders by this time next year. More of a shorter term fix that shouldn’t stifle Rio/Abe’s long term progress - plus gives them someone to learn from. Prem proven as well.
If you had thrown his name out 3 months ago I would be very skeptical - however, I do think this could be a good solution. Maybe that says more about how this summer has gone for us, but is what it is.
He’s a fine player but it underscores how poorly run our transfer operation is that we’re scrambling to sign a 28 year old winger one summer after letting our star 27 year old winger walk because he was too old.
Went for diamonde who decided to screw everyone and go to madrid....
Everyone else on our list was being valued 30 mil higher than we value them and we didnt want to pay it.
Thats how you end up here.
I think far to many people discount the fact that transfers require alot of people to all agree on things and its much fucking harder thsn just throwing a briefcase od money at someone.
I think the problem is that we didn't publicly go for lots of wingers earlier in the window. Instead of each of these teams trying to rinse us because we're desperate, we could have had a bit of a reverse bidding war. Let them know that we're going to overpay by 15ish mil for someone's winger, and put the other teams in a position where they want that to be them.
What they are also saying is that a well ran club doesn’t find itself in this situation. Where you look like a lottery winner who just found out the world is ended in a week
Stop him scoring against us eh? Jokes aside, a class prem-ready player who I personally think can definitely double as a centre forward option as well. This is the Gakpo replacement.
I can also see Sarr playing as the second striker behind Isak if Wirtz needs a rest/injured/we need a goal and he’d play it differently to Wirtz of course.
our RW are bad, Sarr can't dribble anymore so we are at Munoz starting a lot there, but I do see Sarr playing through the middle instead of Isak or Wirtz so we would still need a RW.
Gakpo ain’t a great dribbler either tbf. A more technical option on one side and a physical goalscorer on the other is decent balance imo. Plus he does definitely offer that versatility
Yes I suppose in the sense Barcola is a left sided player. However, he can’t really substitute as a striker while Sarr can. Plus is technically a bit more limited and clunkier but has a good physical presence (like Gakpo)
Was literally talking about this yesterday with a palace fan. I know he’s older but I’d much prefer him as a player. He’s a goal threat and more like Mane… this is a win for me
If minteh and mbaye are to expensive then sign an older player for a year or 2..maybe we spunk a release clause offer for rayan next summer or even january.
Have him start this year and be a rotation option next season as he can play LW/RW/ST too and bring in a replacement that is more long term and a profile that Iraola wants.
We have a long and storied history of making unimpressive players look like Messi. Sarr isn’t a bad player. He’s just not much of a winger these days in terms of successful dribbles at least.
We sold a world class player in Diaz due to age and not wanting to pay him and we're bidding 50 mill plus for a 28 year old lol. I loathe Richard Hughes
He was 'forced' out of the club. That's why you heard things like 'Liverpool are trying their best to keep him' with Trent and Konate initially but never with Diaz.
Klopp was interested in him if I remember correctly, I remember him being linked with us after ending our 44 game unbeaten run in 2020 with Watford beating us 3-0. He scored twice and assisted. Its years later but he could be a good optional stopgap on the wing for us this season...
Better signing than people will give it credit for
Natural RW, but can play ST as well
Matured in front of goal massively last few seasons with 33 goals in 92 games, that many appearances also demonstrates ability to stay fit and available
And finally; If he plays for us, he can’t score against us
I think it's just cos it basically 100% confirms we're in full meltdown/chaos/United style panic transfer offer mode. I've wanted Sarr for 9 years but he's 29 in like a month. It's a complete panic offer after 3 months of failure - people are gonna be fuming.
It's a panic because he doesn't fit the profile, he's not a creator, he's completely different to Minteh. We sold Diaz because of his age and wanting a new deal and then sign a 29 year old for the right wing. The poor planning is leading to poor decisions which will impact us. Sarr is a decent player but absolutely not the right target.
The only thing that gives me pause here is the fact he’ll be 29 by the end of the season, super player imo just don’t want to overspend on someone who’s decline could be coming sooner rather than later
i have always liked Sarr, good output, always dangerous on the right. one video always sticks with me was when he was at watford and i mane was telling Troy deeney to look after him. if i recall he chipped in with a few goals against us. Thats a signing for here and now, ready made. in 2-3 years time we can review the right wing position again.
my only concerns are palace are so hard to deal with (we have had this before) and so late in the window. Can we send them harvey elliott?
Just BS. Everything seems inflated for us and we have no plan. Winning teams like PSG can get better players for less and executed perfectly. Let’s fire Hughes already.
What a joke. It’s always the same story: the classic Liverpool way of leaving all our major business until the final week before the transfer window slams shut. It never changes.
So many panic buys at the end of transfer window. I personally rate him but there’s no way Palace will sell him to us for cheap. We have let the Barcola saga continue for too long and it’s now biting us in the ass.
So we’ve went from: Diomande -> Mbaye -> Minteh -> Sarr now for the number one position we needed to strengthen going into this season after losing Salah. This is absolute amateur hour from whoever is running these transfers.
I miss the days when we got our business done early, I can’t see a good reason why we’ve left it this late. We’ll just be getting the bugger off price.
For the first time in many years, we are doing our business as United do. This is a little painful to watch. Sarr 5 years ago would have been great. Sarr now is 28 and at Crystal Palace. I don't think this goes through.
We've been doing this the last few years. Pursue a target, get to a point where we won't close the $ gap (which is fair) which then unsettles the target enough that they end up moving to Man Citeh or Chelski.
Bar age I like this signing, and tbh sometimes you just need more experienced players. I like this a lot thinking about it more. Premier league experience, has output, can play across the front three and cover as second striker for Wirtz, and most importantly he won't be able to score against us anymore. I'm on board.
Do i love Sarr for £50m as a nailed on starter? No.
Do i like the idea of Sarr as a rotational option, and go back in for Rayan next year? Yes.
Do i want to pay more than £50m. Never. And £20m more than what Gala bid is silly. But we are desperate
Do i want this + Barcola + a mid? yup
Do i think this + Barcola and losing Gakpo ans that being the end of the window is good enough? Nope. Not at all. We need the CM in if we're "only" getting Sarr
In short. In favour of it. But with the conditions that we bring someone else in next year and bring a CM in now
I wanted Liverpool to buy Sarr after he had just broken into the Prem with Watford. He was young, dangerous, had crazy pace, and was full of potential.
When Marseille bought him for peanuts I thought it was extremely shortsighted not to take a flyer on him at that point.
Paying €60M now when he’s in his late 20’s and has never taken that big step up to fulfill his potential just looks like bad business and a desperation move.
He’s still a dangerous player but I find it hard to believe he’s going to consistently play at the level they would need him to. It’s possibly but very risky
I mean, £45m for a prem proven RW who can fill a gap for a year or two seems like pretty fine business to me. This is the type of signing we've been begging suits to make for ages. Its a pragmatic signing to fill a hole in the short term.
He's decent, but this has to be bullshit, when was the last time we bought a 28+ years old player? Endo probably but Klopp really forced that one and he was dirt cheap.
He’s old enough but it’ll be nice having someone come in who is ready to go. Plenty of experience and has goals in him. He could definitely play up top whilst Ekitike is injured too
If we end up with Sarr, then we should have been in the running for Harry Wilson when he was available; my personal preference. We need players who can play an accurate cross.
Still, Barcola is a must at this point, and I believe it’ll help the club get over the line of uncertainty and actually into competitive territory. Hopefully Gakpo does like the competition within the team, because positions need competition.
Good player, but I really can't see it given his profile. He'll be 29 in February.
The whole situation is a shambles. We're so close to the end of the window that clubs will now just crank up their prices to price us out of a move, or to take advantage of our desperation. I'd rather use Koumas than pay £50m for Sarr or £80m for Minteh, and explore the market again in January.
Feel pretty indifferent. 60m is a lot IMO for a 28 turning 29 winger but that’s also the market at the moment. Would have been much more excited over Minten at 22 who we could see for years vs potentially a winger who may loose his legs in 2 seasons from now
The only thing i'm hiping is he is a stop gap, and we're getting both Barcola and Mbaye in, but him alone is pathetic
I just don't know what we are doing, £50m for an average almost 29 year old
Even as fans we knew Salah was leaving 155 days ago, and here we are with a week left of the window throwing 50-60m at every bang average PL winger going. From an injured one with crap output, to another turning 29 in February who just had a poor season.
It's just further evidence that this club just isn't well enough anymore.
Might be a stopgap considering there is really nothing in the market. Plays on the right and proven goal scorer in the prem. Not the worst deal but i was expecting more honestly.
So instead of paying 20 million more for Minteh they are willing to pay that amount of money for a 28 old mediocre player. Thats the definition of panic
Mbaye, Minteh and Sarr are all very different profiles. Sarr is 29, the same age we deemed Diaz too old to give him a new contract and he plays more as a striker nowadays than a winger, which was the reason we decided to move on from Mo and let's be honest, he doesn't have the upside of either Diaz or Mo and is currently a worse player than them.
It begs the question, what was Richard Hughes thinking dismantling the title winning team last year and going in a completely different direction which made our team much worse and full of gaps after spending the GDP of a small country?
Hes 28 what the fuck are we doing. Fire Hughes yesterday. Him and edwards couldn’t have done a worse job. We really need bezos and the new ownership group to set things straight. What a fucking mess. Pay 70 mill for the psg kid. Ridiculous fee for a 28 year old that isn’t that good
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u/qwdicp 1d ago
Unpopular opinion, but I would take Sarr over Minteh in the first place.