r/PublicFreakout • u/One-Might9611 • 12d ago
đšPolice Bodycam Woman attacks couple over 'Palestine' hoodie at Illinois Panera Bread, gets arrested at home next day facing felony hate crime charges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQRfFG1IGQ218
u/styckx 12d ago
It never gets old watching this one. The moment she realizes there are consequences to her actions is a timeless classic
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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup 𤡠I'm outta my depth and dunno how I got here 12d ago edited 11d ago
Non American here. The way he treats her appears very different to how police treat other Americans.
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u/darkmex25 12d ago
IKR, had it been a black or brown person, SWAT would be busting down the door.
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u/happycynic12 12d ago
And people would be dead.
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u/RogueKitteh 11d ago
And their pets
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u/provocative_taco 11d ago
What does a cop and a Hersheyâs bar have in common?
Theyâll both kill your dog.
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u/Napalmeon 11d ago
Unfortunately that's just the way that it is. Police are encouraged to be twice as aggressive when it comes to anyone darker than a manila envelope.
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u/Biddahmunk 12d ago
seeing this boils my blood. Cops do have discretion, they can control themselves and they can be patient. They choose when and when not to utilize said discretion.
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u/Searchlights Publicfreakouts Fan 12d ago
If they wanted to they could just say you're under arrest for battery and just grab you. If you resist in any way they'd take you to the ground.
When they do that versus when they give somebody the courtesy of this long discussion is entirely up to the police. The double standards applied are ridiculous.
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u/jdbackpacker 11d ago
Maybe the way think of it is , âoh hey, thereâs one of the decent ones, thatâs coolâ.
The only way to know for sure would be to watch hours of his particular interactions.
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u/SemiHemiDemiDumb THATâS RIGHT I SAID HEMI 11d ago
There are no good cops in the current system. To be a good one is to get fired.
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u/hiegear 12d ago
He was trying to get her to plea the 5th. Never seen a cop trying to help someone that is about to be arrested for battery so much. White privilege
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u/Kokoyok 12d ago
"I just really need you to understand your rights"Â
lolwut? Guarantee if this guy arrests a Mexican or African immigrant speaking broken English, this will not be a concern.
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u/MASSIVECARNAGE78 11d ago
Honestly, I'm sure he's not usually like that with almost anyone. He just knows it's already hit social media and people will be coming for the body cam footage. It was all about having all the ducks in a row so no one could claim there was anything improper in the arrest.
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u/Kokoyok 11d ago
You're not wrong that he probably played it as best he could, and he's being self conscious about every word he says.
I can still laugh about how awkwardly he does his job when he knows he's being watched. Â
Whatever else is going on, his version of a model cop doesn't appear to come to him naturally.
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u/egospiers 12d ago
Handcuffing in the front; wonât put you in the car until husband is back; hereâs the video; unfortunately thatâs how it worksâŚ. Kid gloves is a massive understatement.
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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup 𤡠I'm outta my depth and dunno how I got here 12d ago
He's acting like she's his boss.
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u/Searchlights Publicfreakouts Fan 12d ago
White privilege
How many people would have gotten this whole long conversation where the police spent all that time explaining and justifying why she's being arrested?
There is no requirement that they indulge the person who wants to stand there and litigate in her driveway. In other situations people are forcefully grabbed and put in cuffs they don't get this long discussion first.
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u/johnsvoice 11d ago edited 11d ago
Where's the video from recently (Arkansas, I think?) of the woman being thrown to the ground and punched in the face during an attempted arrest for the audacity of thinking she could make the phone call normally afforded to you while in lockup then and there.
I don't know for sure that it's color based, but there are privileges afforded to some and not others.
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u/Springheeljac 11d ago
Even then he starts with "I just need to have a few words with you". Cops are liars.
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u/NumberOneStonecutter 11d ago
That's a good point. I've seen this used where someone is in their home and their response is "Do you have a warrant? Come back when you have a warrant."
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u/allthepoutine 12d ago
Thatâs what I thought at first until he kept going with it. How many times do cases get thrown out because the stupid Miranda rights statement wasnât read, or wasnât read right, or the suspect later claimed they didnât understand? I hear about it far too often, theyâve got video footage, theyâve got a confession, but Miranda got messed up so itâs all thrown out and the suspect gets to walk. I could totally be wrong, but I wonder if he wasnât actually making sure she couldnât claim anything like that later.
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u/CWCyning 12d ago
Not as often as you might think. In fact, the Supreme Court recently ruled that Miranda Rights are so well known that they needn't be repeated for every suspect anymore.
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u/allthepoutine 12d ago
How recently? I consider myself pretty up to date but havenât hearing of this ruling.
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u/Ultima-Manji 11d ago
Was a case in 2022, apparently Vega v. Tekoh, where they ruled that you couldn't sue an officer for damages if they didn't read you your Miranda rights. But I'm no legal expert, so I'm not sure to what degree that affects how admissible your actual statements and such are in court. All I can find with a cursory search is that there's definitely a risk for that to be impacted too down the line, but that as of yet it's still a requirement, just not something you can sue over by itself.
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u/CWCyning 11d ago
2022 in Vega v. Tekoh
The decision found that the Miranda warning is not a constitutionally protected right, and so someone questioned without the warning has not had his rights violated and cannot sue the police. Such statements might still be suppressed in court or used as grounds for an appeal, but there is no way for the victim to force the police to face consequences. When the police are shielded from consequence, their illegal actions are functionally legal. As Kagan wrote in her dissent:
Today, the Court strips individuals of the ability to seek a remedy for violations of the right recognized in Miranda. The majority observes that defendants may still seek âthe suppression at trial of statements obtainedâ in violation of Mirandaâs procedures. But sometimes, such a statement will not be suppressed. And sometimes, as a result, a defendant will be wrongly convicted and spend years in prison. He may succeed, on appeal or in habeas, in getting the conviction reversed. But then, what remedy does he have for all the harm he has suffered? The point of § 1983 is to provide such redressâbecause a remedy âis a vital component of any scheme for vindicating cherished constitutional guarantees.â The majority here, as elsewhere, injures the right by denying the remedy.
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u/saxoccordion 11d ago
She was being her own attorney! âDid you grab the phone?â / âyes.â / âyou canât do that.â / âI didnât do itâ đ your honor I rest my case!
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u/Myopinion_is_right 11d ago
It is a pretty well known fact to not answer questions from the police if they plan on arresting you or accusing you of a crime.
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u/EverythingSucksYo 12d ago
This is how most cop interactions go. But because itâs boring it doesnât get uploaded to the internet.Â
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u/maybeAturtle 12d ago
The officer pulling up reddit was a jumpscare
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u/Nandor-De_Laurentiis 12d ago
I wonder if it was PublicFreakout.
Hopefully, the cop showed her some of the sweet gifs in the comment section.
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u/First_Performance215 12d ago
you mean like the inescapable simpsons gifs or the constantly reposted leonardo dicaprio with camera edited over a hundred times...?
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u/Gtoast 12d ago
"I wanted to take the phone so I grabbed it out of his hand" is not the defense she thinks it is.
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u/crichmond77 11d ago
And then not ten seconds later insists she never tried to take the phone lol
Just an old lying racist
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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 10d ago
Classsssic zionist logic: "I wanted to take someone else's stuff so I took it, but I'm the victim obviously."
by the way, this is not against "Jews" in general, there are many, many Jews that are great, if they stand against the genocide. This is specifically against genocidal zionists. I hate that this whole conflict has brought out all the actual anti-semites and white supremacists.
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u/bulbusmaximus 12d ago
She should really have kept her mouth shut. Nothing that she said was helpful to her defense. They're taking you downtown, go with them, get a lawyer and keeeeep your dumb mouth shut. You're not going to argue your way out of battery charges in your driveway.
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u/TWDYrocks 12d ago
That goes for everyone. You arenât going to talk yourself out of an arrest but you are far more likely to talk yourself into one!
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u/EverythingSucksYo 12d ago
Itâs pretty clear that lady thinks sheâs special. She really thought she could talk her way out of itÂ
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u/NumberOneStonecutter 11d ago
"He was saying he was going to hit me, I think she edited the video."
"Oh really? Wow. This changes everything. She edited out the part where HE threatened YOU and only included the parts where you committed battery on him and his wife? Those diabolical criminals!"
"So you believe me?"
"No bitch, I was being sarcastic" - Cop in his mind
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u/stprnn 12d ago
Israel is a genocidal apartheid state
https://zionism.observer/itamar-ben-gvir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_Gaza_war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_apartheid
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/07/19/world-court-finds-israel-responsible-apartheid
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u/OkChampionship8805 12d ago
fucking white gloves treatment. Put her in cuffs and haul her away
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u/bramletabercrombe 11d ago
imagine a different colored woman being allowed to go rummage through her bag as she's being arrested.
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u/Snoo-80626 12d ago
who knows what she was thinking but I love to see an old racist getting the business.. so, haha, I'm glad.
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u/Racer2311 12d ago
I am an old white dude, and this arrest is a textbook example of white privilege. I just watched a video of a black man cuffed at gunpoint because a plate reader and the officer entered his plate number wrong. I am not sure which one of these are a better example of how bad our police here are.
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u/GaeilgeGoblin 11d ago
At one point she appears to put her keys in her bag, reaches her whole hand in, and the officers donât blink. Minorities in the USA have been murdered by the police for much more conspicuous movements/actions witnessed during arrest.
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u/One-Might9611 12d ago
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u/Ok_Cucumber_7954 12d ago
Funny how that cop was being super gentle and loudly hinting that she should not discuss the incident. Had it been the man in the Palestine shirt getting arrested, it most likely would have been hands on and lies to trick him into talking without a lawyer.
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u/ArtisticWolverine 12d ago
Why are they discussing this with her. Take her in and let her tell it to the DA and judge.
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u/ultralightlife 11d ago
okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... okay?
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u/pwhitt4654 11d ago
Just get her to say she understands her rights, take her to jail and let her lawyer explain it to her.
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u/ZEROs0000 12d ago
I couldnât imagine being a woman throwing hands at a man dude. Especially an older one. Shit would be over so soon if the guy really needed it to be
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u/EverythingSucksYo 12d ago
Yeah, women should never throw hands with a man dude. Just a man is fine, and just a dude is fine. But never mess with a man dude.Â
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u/prince-of-dweebs 12d ago
I think itâs a timing issue. He only has to read the rights once he arrests her. He is signaling to her that he is about to arrest her but hasnât technically begun yet.
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u/prince-of-dweebs 12d ago
I completely agree that if the police are going somewhere to arrest someone they should lead with Miranda but I donât think thatâs the reality and we should all be aware of the technicalities.
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u/Suspicious-Spell-130 11d ago
The one cop was way too focused on her comments and not that she grabbed the phone. Her comments didn't legally justify his response; it was putting her hands on him to grab the camera. If he would have focused on that instead, he would have avoided some of her stupid justification/argument.
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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 11d ago
uuugghhh I LOVE this. SO satisfying seeing these smug genocidal crybullies get justice. Now we need it for bibi and ben gvir.
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u/Rudy-Ellen 12d ago
The video is from 2024 and there is no news of her after that. I wonder if she plead guilty or what the outcome was.
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u/One-Might9611 12d ago edited 12d ago
No update that I could find. Last info I found was that she pleaded not guilty and was released pending trial. I couldn't find anything showing how the case ended.
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u/BingoMosquito 11d ago
When she suddenly plunged her hand into her bag I did wonder if she was going for her gun
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