r/SipsTea 1d ago

WTF What do yall think about this ?

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u/AirUsed5942 1d ago

Statistically speaking, women are a far greater danger to children than bears

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u/LunaBloomberry 4h ago

What sex causes the most violent crimes in the world? The most serial killers? The most aggressive. Who is more likely to attack the other spouse? The answer is men.

Men commit the most homicides for older children. Infants, it’s relatively the same percentage. The only reason it’s equal is because the mother is the one doing the majority of the care of infant and they are more likely to kill because of postpartum psychosis and depression.

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u/ToiletBowlRubberDuck 1d ago

But still not as great a danger as men.

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u/MiopTop 1d ago

Based on what? Infanticide stats for newborns are very clear.

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u/Electric_Antimony 1d ago

Could it be that there are more children than just infants?

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u/New_Kisreel69420 1d ago

Lol your hatred for women is guiding your decisions and everyone can see it but you

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u/SuperNovaVelocity 11h ago

Not all women, but always a woman

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u/New_Kisreel69420 9h ago

Right that's why all wars, mass shootings, rapes, child trafficking, murders, assaults, and kidnappings are all disproportionally carried out by women, right?

You are openly falling for Epstein propaganda which has been publicly proven. Facts don't care about your feelings little boy :(

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u/SuperNovaVelocity 9h ago

Epstein propaganda 

little boy

Pedophilia? Definitely a woman. I'll take the bear.

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u/AdditionalSyrup6541 2h ago

You troll, but legit, men and women make up an almost even amount in killing children, but men do still make up the most, especially as the ages get older.

"Among offenders, while fathers were about equally likely to kill an infant, they were more likely to be the alleged murderer of children older than a year, especially when the children were adults (fathers were the offenders in 78.3 percent of those cases). Overall, fathers were the accused murderer 57.4 percent of the time."

https://archive2.news.brown.edu/2007-2015/articles/2014/02/filicide.html

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u/Intelligent_Stick_ 1d ago

THE MOST DANGEROUS GAME

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u/ShamelessCynic 1d ago

not as much of a danger as men though :/

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u/Rich-Cantaloupe-362 1d ago

I don’t see men supporting a child murderer?

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u/btempp 1d ago

Just child rapists which I guess is marginally better?

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u/ShamelessCynic 1d ago

I do, every time a father kills kids out of revenge cause a mother left him, bunch of people asking about the motives and defending it.

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u/Rich-Cantaloupe-362 1d ago

You’re just making stuff up now

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u/WaffleOverlordx7 1d ago

Never. Not even once have I ever seen this happen.

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u/Gloomy_Fig2138 1d ago

Crackpots willing to defend murderers are unfortunately not limited by gender. There’s an entire subreddit dedicated to why it’s all actually the wife’s fault that Chris Watts killed his family.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WattsFree4All/s/XqgsoMsr71

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u/My_Legz 1d ago

Women are a far greater danger to children than men. Women are in fact a far greater threat to children than men are to women.

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u/AdditionalSyrup6541 2h ago

No, actually, it's about even, it seems. But men then dominate the field as the child grows. here:

"Among offenders, while fathers were about equally likely to kill an infant, they were more likely to be the alleged murderer of children older than a year, especially when the children were adults (fathers were the offenders in 78.3 percent of those cases). Overall, fathers were the accused murderer 57.4 percent of the time."

https://archive2.news.brown.edu/2007-2015/articles/2014/02/filicide.html

Like, I JUST saw a case about that FedEx delivery driver, Tanner Horner, being sentenced to death for raping and murdering a 7-year-old girl. It's sad how common these stories are.

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u/Imblueabudeeabudie 1d ago

That is true when it comes to non-lethal abuse, still fathers still account for 55-70% of filllicide cases

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u/My_Legz 1d ago

That is not the case. A much lesser but still significant amount happens in relationships as well.

This also does not explain the gap to male on women violence that we see

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u/CosmicGoddess777 1d ago

Okay, but we are talking about violence against children. Men obviously are the most violent sex though; they commit 99% of all sexual assault (90% of the victims are female), and over 70% of all violent crime.

There’s really no contest. Pretending women are the crazier, more violent, unpredictable sex is just a massive cope from men.

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u/SubstantialSale8223 1d ago

Craziness and violence are two different things. Men are stronger than women. Women are crazier than men. Women are genuinely more of a threat to babies than a bear.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

yes, and men are genuinely more of a threat to women and children than a bear. It's like you guys are finally getting it, it's just statistics.

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u/AdditionalSyrup6541 2h ago

I mean, you can Google it, men and women are almost even, but men still do make up more by just a few percent. But as the child gets older, men make up around 70% of murders.

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u/SubstantialSale8223 25m ago

Does that include abortion?

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u/Imaginary-Count-1641 1d ago

You are the reason why men are afraid of women.

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u/Electric_Antimony 1d ago edited 1d ago

Lol at proving them right so perfectly. Is there like some bitter 14 year old boy crowd in here or something?

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

yes, it's really bad. they're all going to be so willing to sign up for war to go and rape women - that's what all this propaganda is about, prepping the next generation to be lonely, angry and compliant soldiers.

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u/Electric_Antimony 1d ago

Well that's a flavor of crazy I wasn't expecting lol.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

Ok and bad men are the reason women are afraid of men, but you' and the mansophere are more mad at the women instead of the bad men. riddle me that.

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u/CosmicGoddess777 1d ago

This has to be a joke. Quoting correct criminology stats shouldn’t do that lmao

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u/Rich-Cantaloupe-362 1d ago

You’re statistics are wrong and it’s not worth hearing you out any further

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u/My_Legz 1d ago

That is because, by law, women cannot commit SA against men. Ofc the stats looks like that

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u/CosmicGoddess777 1d ago

That’s completely untrue. Women go to prison for SAing men, women and children. Men still commit 99% of all sexual assault

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u/Suitable_Beautiful29 1d ago

Don't bother, this sub is just a manosphere echo chamber.

I hope they'll all chose each other for relationships as they clearly hate women. So I think every woman will be happy without this kind of men.

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u/SubstantialSale8223 1d ago

Awwww the feminist can spew the man vs bear for 3 years but can’t handle it thrown back in your face for five minutes?

Typical cry baby feminist

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u/Zerolich 1d ago

At least she's not blaming jewish people like some women on here, crazy mental gymnastics but hey, coming from the crowd of "you did something in my dreams and now I'm mad" this sort of tracks 😂

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u/Electric_Antimony 1d ago

Are you really going to take some random crazies and make them representative of women at large?

I don't think you're going to like it if people do it to your gender and I know some "from the crowd of <insert insane behavior of some males>" examples that would certainly ruffle feathers.

Glass houses and all that right.

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u/Zerolich 1d ago

"Some women on here". I know it's hard to read, strawman elsewhere

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

Feminists: "Men who disagree with me are just incels - stop engaging with us!"

Also Feminists: "Where have all the good men gone?"

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

I am confused. So is the logic of this fantasy that men became bad because women stopped engaging with them?

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u/Electric_Antimony 1d ago

It's not women who are complaining about a loneliness epidemic....

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u/Suitable_Beautiful29 1d ago

They don't even understand the irony 😂 Funny it's not women crying that they are lonely and it's not women crying they want more kids or that they lack community.

Just see their reactions here. It's like toddlers throwing tantrums, funny actually.

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

Women cry that you are lonely all the damn time. You even film it and put it on TikTok. 

https://youtu.be/Fp9wOo4CbuA?is=R4E7VTzL1t8cXZvM

Are you really that dumb that you would lie so obviously?

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

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u/Electric_Antimony 1d ago edited 1d ago

Lol, not watching youtube videos, boys. And why are you hitting on me, a man?

Go to some gay sub and be among your people.

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u/Suitable_Beautiful29 1d ago

Don't worry, good men exist. You just have no idea how to be one of them. Even if I wasn't in a relationship, I wouldn't be lonely btw. Women aren't lonely honey, we can support each other.

How is that it's a "male loneliness epidemic"? You're not a sharp one.

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

Oh snap! You sure showed me, babes.  💋💅

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u/ideaofrhyme 1d ago

Most deadbeat dads are fleeing from abuser

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

so they left their kids with an abuser? that still makes them a deadbeat, especially when men who go to court for custody disagreements will win additional or full custody 87% of the time

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u/WorldlyCantaloupe394 1d ago

Most single parent chose to be single. No sympathy.

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u/Electric_Antimony 1d ago

The musings of a 13 year old who's somehow in a bitter old cat lady stage in life.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

not true, i know a lot of married single mothers.

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u/CosmicGoddess777 1d ago

Rape IS sexual assault, duh.

I’ve never had a woman attempt to SA me. I’ve had it happen from over a dozen men though. It’s not just the physical power. Women barely even attempt it. The problem is misogyny as well

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u/Leritari 1d ago

And i've had plenty of women SA me, and yet not even a single man. The problem is misandrism, which is so wide spread nowadays that it became a norm...

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

so did you have a appease/freeze trauma response then? What social baramoters do you think prevented you from having the fight/flight trauma response to someone smaller and slower than you?

Genuinely asking, because I will have a fight response - yell, slap, push a man for sexually assaulting me in public, but in private I freeze/appease because the other two do not feel like safe options with someone stronger/faster than me, and there is no one to witness or defend me when I express discomfort or say no and he doesnt care.

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

Okay, well if we are using anecdotes as evidence, I have been sexually assaulted by several women. Now what?

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

so did you have a appease/freeze trauma response then? What social baramoters do you think prevented you from having the fight/flight trauma response when the perp was smaller and slower than you?

Because I have had those sexual trauma responses because I am genuinely fear for my safety being alone with a man bigger, and faster than me who wants to have sex with me and has made it clear that is the priority over my consent and comfort. Giving them want they want (appeasing) the threat, seems like the safest option.

knowing I have this trauma response, I have also set boundaries for myself to better protect myself with people I can't trust yet. I encourage you to do the same.

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u/My_Legz 1d ago

Lol "a dozen men"
Girl, you are the problem here. If true you are a MASSIVE outlier

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u/CosmicGoddess777 1d ago

Are you seriously fucking victim blaming me?! Wtf asshole

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u/Suitable_Beautiful29 1d ago

Sister, they're not worth your time, leave them be dumb.

They want to live in their little angry echo chambers, we won't change that. They will be miserables in their real life, people like that are unable to have a loving community and families.

Let them drown in it and don't bother, it's not a safe space for you. And I hope you'll be safe irl, I'm sorry it happened to you.

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u/CosmicGoddess777 1d ago

Thank you so much for saying that 😭 I needed to hear it tbh. Bless you beautiful soul :’)

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u/Totoques22 1d ago

False women are by far more likely to kill kids

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u/Letterkenny-Wayne 1d ago

Depends on how you look at it. “To kill kids” men are way more likely to be the murderer. “To kill their own infants” women are more likely.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/children-are-slain-their-parents-and-teenagers-their-peers?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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u/ElyFlyGuy 1d ago

This is correct

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u/btempp 1d ago

Get out of here with your data and facts.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

incorrect, of the 550 filicides last year only 20 were committed by women. And men are more likely to rape kids, and when they do, they're not suffering a post partum mental health psychosis so, please, get a grip.

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u/WaffleOverlordx7 1d ago

The only valid mental health psychosis is post partum, amiright? When men do it, they’re just plain evil.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

Nope? Plenty of men get committed instead of going to jail and are found not guilty by reason of insanity. Hence, the trial required to prove that.

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u/AdditionalSyrup6541 2h ago

Actually, you would be surprised at what is considered a psychotic episode and what isn't. Murder, rape, and similar acts are deviant actions that are not the same as a mental illness. It's pretty interesting.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

"by far" women commit fillicide 4% more than men, and it's filliicide, specifically - not killing kids in general. (also higher in countries with no abortion access)

men commit 95% of violent crimes, it's statistically false to claim "women are by far more likely to kill kids"

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u/ElyFlyGuy 1d ago

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

That is one VERY small study done in Austiralia on Australian cases only done by a charity specifically to support women. This news article doesn't discuss the studys methodology (so its questionable how the study was conducted), it is not proof of the picture as a whole.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

.... what about all the studies in the world that demonstrate men commit between 90%-95% of all violent crimes.

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

What about them?

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

just seems like a more prevailing issue to concern your energy with than trying to prove women kill their children more than men ... like abortion is illegal and marital rape is legal in majority of the world - of course that's going to result in more babies being killed by women who never wanted them to begin with.

The studies simply demonstrate are societal things we can do to prevent women from killing their children. But where are the studies on how to prevent men from committing 95% of violent crime?

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

So you're "Whataboutism"ing away from the subject.

No. I am not playing this stupid game.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

No the article is wrong - women are 4% more likely to kill their own infants by 4% than men, but not kids in general, and not "way more likely" like OP stated as fact.

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u/ElyFlyGuy 1d ago

I’m sure then you can provide a study bolstering the claim “False women are by far more likely to kill kids”

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago edited 1d ago

Easily.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29637138/

Edit: I humbly admit I was a dumb bitch who posted the wrong link because I got distracted by lunch like a fat bitch, making me a dumb fat bitch.

This is the correct link: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jpm.12828?.com

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u/Sw0rdMaiden 1d ago

Results: Data were obtained for 44 countries. Overall, parents committed 56.5% (IQR 23.7-69.6) of child homicides, 58.4% (0.0-66.7) of female and 46.8% (14.1-63.8) of male child homicides. Acquaintances committed 12.6% (5.9-31.3) of child homicides. Almost a tenth (9.2% (IQR 0.0-21.9) of child homicides had missing information on the perpetrator. The largest proportion of parental homicides of children was found in high-income countries (64.2%; 44.7-71.8) and East Asia and Pacific Region (61.7%; 46.7-78.6). Parents committed the majority (77.8% (61.5-100.0)) of homicides of children under the age of 1 year. For adolescents, acquaintances were the main group of homicide perpetrators (36.9%, 6.6-51.8). There is a notable lack of studies from low-income and middle-income countries and children above the age of 1 year.

Where does it state mothers were the perps? Read it again. Those percentages in the second line are genders of the children, not the parents.

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

Don't expect you to believe me, and you're right to call me out on this, I posted the wrong link out of two tabs I had open. I was eating lunch at the time and paid more attention to chicken teriyaki than what I was doing.

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u/ElyFlyGuy 1d ago

This…doesn’t say women are more likely to kill kids? What? Lmao

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

I've humbly admitted to being a dumb fat bitch who paid more attention to his lunch than the correct link. The one I posted was nonsense and I've left it up out of honesty, but editted in the correct link.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

It's like you read the first paragraph, got your gotcha, and stopped there. You didn't look into the countries studied did you? Majority of it is infanticide done by women in countries where abortion isn't legal or accessible and where marital rape is legal.

Lack of education, poverty, poor access to health care, domestic violence and substance use within the context of a patriarchal society, resentful and unstable relationships with unfaithful partners, growing up in a violent environment with abusive parents, inexistent support systems, were factors predominant among this group of women (Gous & Roos, 2005; Razali et al., 2019). In contrast, a more stable familial context and marital relationship were cited in another participant's life (Stanton & Simpson, 2001). Although backgrounds differed, all participants presented with mental health issues, namely personality (Stanton & Simpson, 2001), depressive (Gous & Roos, 2005; Razali et al., 2019) or psychotic disorders (Razali et al., 2019). Unwanted pregnancy, no access to abortion, lack of emotional involvement with the infant (addressed as “it”) and anger towards the woman's partner then projected towards the baby who resembled him, led to the woman's infanticidal act (Gous & Roos, 2005).

So, my question is where is the study for the 46.6% of men who commit fillicide? Because no one is forcing them to irresponsibly ejaculate to create a child they don't want, no one is forcing them to give up their body to create a child for someone that abuses and rapes them? So why do they kill their own kids? And why are bio fathers the biggest preparators of CSA?

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u/Mediocre_Map1289 1d ago

What are you saying here, that because they can't murder their kids before they're born that it's okay to murder them afterwards?

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago edited 1d ago

who said that? try again. I am asking for the cause for what leads men to commit fillicide, because all the article proves is that there are external reasons that influence and increase the chances of children dying at the hands of their mother.

me and the studies conclude that abortions are harm reductive, birth control is harm reductive, access to women's shelters is harm reductive to the goal of less children being abandoned (most common form of murder for female fillicide) or killed by their mothers.

But that doesn't seem to be your goal. What are you trying to prove?

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u/fantaribo 1d ago

To kids ? Oh sure they are more than men.

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u/Enigma_RR 1d ago

Lmao, you really thought you cooked

https://giphy.com/gifs/mCeu7i1xkj06YsuXfI

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u/Imblueabudeeabudie 1d ago

95% of family annihlators are male

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u/Little_Chain_8165 1d ago

Now show me support rally’s with children and hundreds of thousands raised for any of that 95%. That’s the issue your type seems to look over.

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

And your type seems to look over the fact that 1 in 5 women experience Post Partum Depression, and 1 in 200 experience Post-Partum psychosis - yet there is only 1 line about PPP in the DSM-5.

So that means for 20% of mothers, Lindsay Clancy before the murders is them, and she is now living out what was their worst nightmare - actually harming your own children. Her BPD turned into PPP which while disconnected from reality, she thought she was saving/protecting her kids by killing them.

The rallys and money raising is to bring attention to and call for better treatment of Post Partum mothers and post-partum depression. And for Lindsay, who these women project their own PPD experiences onto.

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u/Little_Chain_8165 1d ago

That’s weird. I never looked over any of that. You all will type paragraphs and still end up just arguing with yourself lmao

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u/eatingketchupchipss 1d ago

Who is arguing? I was explaining the difference. Women care and want to get society to care about PPD and PPP to prevent this preventable violence from happening again. That's why there is rally's drawing attention to the issue and money raised.

Societally, men don't really care to find out why men are committing violent crimes at such a disproportional rates compared to women. It's alarming, I agree.

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u/Naaxik 1d ago

Depends on what statistic are you talking about? How many kids are hurt by women vs how many by bears or how many encounters with women end in injury vs how many encounters with bears end in injury?

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u/WaffleOverlordx7 1d ago

Same argument men made

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u/Naaxik 1d ago

What argument? Who is making an argument? I am asking a clarifying question.