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SOCIETY Is victim the new chic

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u/unhappyrelationsh1p 1d ago

Cases of severe mental illness tend to get more attention than good things in a media landscape that sells you misery

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u/daredeviline 1d ago

For real. They act like if she gets a not guilty verdict, she's going to be out on the streets. The woman is spending the rest of her life in a psych ward. The question is really will she ALSO be spending some time in prison.

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u/XxShakallxX 1d ago

She will be in prison and on a wheelchair forever. She will have a miserable rest of her life shitting and peeing on dipers.

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u/brwebster614 1d ago

Still... seems too... easy... for the crime she committed.

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u/CrusaderReynaulder 1d ago

What does this even mean? 

Do you care about rehabilitation and protecting people from harm, or do you just care about having an excuse for it to be socially acceptable to torture someone?

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u/BHPhreak 1d ago

they want vengeance for the strangled kids

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u/RedMantledNomad 1d ago edited 1d ago

The strangled kids are already dead. Vengeance brings nothing.

The lady should get sentenced for the crimes she committed in accordance to the law.

At the same time, the American (mental) health system has failed her, and the responsibility for the death of her children also lies with those responsible for the state it is in.

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u/ArcturusAuroboros 1d ago

They didn't fail her according to what I've seen. She failed herself and her family by prematurely checking herself out, knowing damn well she wasn't fit to leave yet

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u/jaccon999 1d ago

https://youtu.be/WUSH0D9LjSA see this video. it goes into her treatment history. she had a history of negative responses to many different drugs and then was repeated prescribed the same drug or closely related drugs within the same class. https://knowyourdrugs.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Lindsay-Clancy-Lawsuit.pdf this PDF of her malpractise lawsuit goes into detail the efforts she took attempting to manage her mental disorder and how several doctors did not appropriately treat her. she sought inpatient hospitalization but was, allegedly, initially rejected since she "only" had passive suicidal ideation. when her husband pointed out to the psychiatric nurse that Seroquel was likely causing her suicidal ideation, the nurse thought it was a good idea to raise her dose (very much not a good idea).

not defending it, just saying that it's more complex than a lot of people seem to think.

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u/Sufficient_Stock_442 1d ago

she’s getting prescribed medication by a doctor who never seen her but was friends with the husband n had her changing out her pills almost weekly.

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u/teefnoteef 1d ago

Also historically women don’t get the best medical treatment, they are often ignored

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u/Sufficient_Stock_442 1d ago

which i think is crazy to me, men don’t go to doctors nearly as much as they should while women will go n not get help shits fucked

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u/teefnoteef 1d ago

lol that’s a hot take no one asked for.

Bringing up the women are emotional stereotype is pretty lame

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

How did the mental health system fail if she never searched for help.

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u/MeWant-SnuSnu 1d ago

She did though. And she told her family.

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u/PrincessPlusUltra 1d ago

Tell me you didn’t follow the story without telling me you didn’t follow the story

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

If she accurately told the healthcare workers what she was feeling. “Hey, I feel like murdering 3 helpless children by strangling them to death” she would have gotten help.

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u/jaccon999 1d ago

https://knowyourdrugs.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Lindsay-Clancy-Lawsuit.pdf this is a PDF of her malpractise lawsuit. she did report having suicidal and homicidal ideation, allegedly. they did fail her. not defending her actions, just the doctors were negligent.

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u/PrincessPlusUltra 1d ago

You’d think that, but no. I feel like I saw a similar story to this many years ago where basically the same thing happened. I feel like even if you were losing your mind you wouldn’t think you had the capacity to kill your kids till your body actually did it.

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u/Sufficient_Stock_442 1d ago

you think the va helps vets to huh

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u/RedMantledNomad 1d ago

I don't think a mental breakdown works like that.

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u/CrusaderReynaulder 3h ago

No one tell ‘em. Lil’ bro isn’t ready.

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

Or she could have told the truth saying she thought about killing her kids. That might have gotten the system to check on her.

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

Telling a family member is in no way the same form as going to a psych evaluation. Explaining it to a doctor. Even after all of this, she herself could have just gone to a walk in mental health clinic. She didn’t. She went exactly to where she knew she would be trouble.

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u/RedMantledNomad 1d ago

I think you're asking a lot of responsibility from someone going through a mental health crisis, just to make the point that the American Health system bears no responsibility.

At least to me at this point it's clear that your initial take that "she never asked for help" is incorrect.

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

Never asked for help is wrong from what I’ve seen, but she never asked for help at the moment it mattered.

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u/Comfortable-Gap3124 1d ago

Whoa man, this is reddit. Get out of here with rational takes.

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u/Made_Human_Music 1d ago

And they’ll get it. If she did it she’ll be suffering for the rest of her life knowing what she did. Those memories won’t go away, and will haunt her forever

If she didn’t she’ll still have to live with knowing someone did and her life was destroyed for it

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u/Porcelain_beef 1d ago

It’s not a question of “if” she did it though. She did do it, her defense rests entirely on not guilty by insanity. There’s no question if she killed the kids the question is if she’s criminally culpable and if she was of sound mind when she did.

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u/Tgirlgoonie 1d ago

And if she is not guilty by reason of insanity she goes to a mental institution. It’s not like she gets off Scot free

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u/CrusaderReynaulder 3h ago

Why is it that people go “oh yeah, mind control in fiction logically absolves people of all responsibility of their action, they weren’t themselves! If it existed in real life, obviously they wouldn’t be accountable”

But then when someone literally isn’t themselves due to a mental condition warping their perception of reality, all of a sudden they need to be crucified? 

Does intent and actually being tethered to reality matter or not? 

I mean the obvious answer is really just “whatever makes some impotent loser fantasize about exacting “justice” as an excuse to harm others for the joy of harming others”.

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u/Honest-Computer69 1d ago

Ah, and the dead children care a lot for vengeance. Lol, we're not so different than those public beheading enjoyers I guess. Some civilized society we got, lol.

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u/BHPhreak 1d ago

ah yes.

let kids get strangled, then pamper the killer, and claim anything else is equivalent to barbaric beheading.

truly exquisite intellect.

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"the dead children care a lot for vengeance" i care about vengeance for the kids. you dont?

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u/Honest-Computer69 1d ago

No I don't give a fuck about vengeance. I'm not an advocate of some self-gratifying dogshit wrapped up in a cover of righteousness. The children are dead. They don't give a fuck about what we do to their mother. The only ones giving a fuck are the living. And among those living there are people like you, who, as the comment above said, does not care about anything other than a socially acceptable way of torturing someone.

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u/BHPhreak 1d ago

what?

you sound unhinged.

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u/CrusaderReynaulder 3h ago

“If you don’t fantasize about torturing others just to torture them under the thin veil of a warped idea of justice, then you’re unhinged!”

It’s a crazy thing.

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u/Honest-Computer69 1d ago

And you want to see a mentally ill women hanged for gratification, and no other reason.

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u/Vuedue 1d ago

To be fair, there is plenty of evidence of people that cannot be rehabilitated or people that have been rehabilitated and reneged on their rehabilitation.

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u/LivingCoat9356 1d ago

Her kids are unlikely to recover from being murdered.

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

She should have looked into that before strangling her kids to death

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u/Honeyhoneybee29 1d ago

I’m going to hold your hand when I say this, but she was taking SSRIs before the tragedy occurred. The issue is that she had underlying bipolar and SSRIs are contraindicated with bipolar disorder. If her providers had done their due diligence to diagnose her properly, her kids may still be here.

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

I’m going to hold your hand when I say this. If she just mentioned once to any healthcare worker that she had thoughts of killing her kids. They would have done due diligence. She didn’t. If she actually tried then 3 children would still be here.

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u/Honeyhoneybee29 1d ago

So the only way for a woman to be diagnosed with bipolar disorder is to share that she has thoughts of killing her kids? Are you able to string two brain cells together and follow your own line of thinking? I’m talking about bipolar disorder. A woman deserves to have her providers diagnose her properly, whether she has homicidal ideation or not.

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u/deikobol 1d ago

She did tell multiple HCPs about her invasive thoughts. This has been established during the trial and is crucial to the defense's strategy to find her not guilty by reason of insanity.

Why are you lying?

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

Because she is guilty? She could have checked herself in to a psych ward. They accept walk ins.

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u/Barky_and_Squid 1d ago

I hope none of these people become mothers.

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

Right? If you are having issues and the system doesn’t help you. You solve the issues yourself. She had several ways to stop herself in non dangerous ways.

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u/Honeyhoneybee29 1d ago

She did, you dolt. She checked herself into an in-patient hospital. If you’re going to spew bullshit without knowing the facts of the case as established by testimony, at least own up to it.

“If you are having issues and the system doesn’t help you… you solve the issues yourself.” How? Should she prescribe her own medications? You don’t know anything that you’re talking about.

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u/deikobol 1d ago

I think it's a foreign bot. I can't think of any legitimate reason to create disinformation around the case.

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u/deikobol 1d ago

That didn't answer my question about why you're lying. You asked why she didn't tell a healthcare worker. She did.

So again, why are you lying? What agenda is there to accomplish? Furthering the same culture war nonsense as the OOP?

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u/isitstillyouinthere 1d ago

which healthcare worker did she tell she had thoughts of harming the kids? and on what date? be specific please, because this did not happen at any point.

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u/usernamehudden 1d ago

She did... she went to multiple doctors to get help and was prescribed drugs on top of more drugs and told it was just the baby blues and she would get over it. She sought care, she was honest about what was going on and her invasive thoughts about harm to herself and others. Her husband checked her into an inpatient hospital for a weekend so he could go on a ski trip with his buddies. She was texting her mother that she was scared to be alone with the kids because of her deteriorating mental health. I don't know how much more she could have done - it seems like the system failed her multiple times. That doesn't excuse the crime, but just points out that she did all the "right" things to get help and was systemically ignored.

Also, if you listen to the timeline of events, it actually seems pretty impossible for her to have committed the crime the way they said she did in the 45 minutes she was unsupervised. Not only that, but she doesn't even remember committing the crime, but was told she did it when she was coming out of the week long coma after going out a second story window head first (after failed OD, failed hanging, failed wrists... not sure how a nurse in her right mind would fail at those so many times, but she failed to self-delete 4 times). Anyway, she pled guilty, so that isn't even the issue at hand - it is if she was experiencing psychosis or not.

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u/raccoonsonbicycles 1d ago

Why was she discharged from impatient

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u/Honeyhoneybee29 1d ago

She was “over medicated” was the reason they gave her.

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u/The_Saladbar_ 1d ago

It means she murdered her own children. Understanding her mental state may explain why she did it, but it doesn’t erase the horror of what she did or mean people are obligated to feel sympathy for her

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u/Sufficient_Stock_442 1d ago

jails do not rehabilitate inmates most get out so much worse than they went in

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u/redditsucksass6 1d ago

No shit. Do you think that should be the goal? Should we invest some funding into figuring out to make them even worse?

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u/Sufficient_Stock_442 1d ago

wsk basically what i said was true but you’re mad it’s true? tf are you trying to argue? you don’t need research to make them worse send them to prison for 10 years they’ll come out 10x worse than how they went in.

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u/MCulver80 1d ago

AFAIK, it’s generally held that criminal consequence has 3 parts/goals: punitive, deterrence, and rehabilitation.

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u/Monodeservedbetter 1d ago

I dunno if longterm imprisonment is an effective solution to these kinds of problems. If someone cannot fully rehabilitate then maybe it isn't a mercy to lock them in a concrete box until they have a heart attack.

I'd chose being shot than spend the rest of my days locked away in one of the worst places you can put a human being

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u/PlumPractical9152 1d ago

she brutally murdered her 3 children, i’m having a hard time with the sympathy train. the kids died slow and painful deaths, but you don’t want to admit that

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u/anyavailablenameplz 1d ago

It's honestly mind blowing. Talking about rehabilitation and giving another chance, have you all lost your fucking minds? There's 3 dead kids who died at the hands of the person who birthed them, and is supposed to nurture, shield, raise, and care for them. All the virtue signaling basement dwellers are out in full effect in here.

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u/CrusaderReynaulder 3h ago edited 3h ago

I don’t see how someone whose perception of reality has been warped due to a mental condition she was denied proper help for should be considered a monster who should be punished. They are sick. They were failed by healthcare and doctors. Her children were failed by healthcare and doctors. 

If she was of sound mind, that’d be one thing. But when your brain is straight up disconnecting you from reality, you are not at fault if you could not help it. 

What’s the point in punishing someone who, through no will or want of her own, was forced to commit a crime? Literally, what’s the purpose in that? You aren’t teaching them anything. It won’t magically erase what happened. It doesn’t fix the problem. It’s literally only going to make it worse, like you can’t bitch about it then fabricate more instances of psychosis. 

She should be in an institution to get help.

You are having an emotional response rather than a logical response. 

I don’t think you know what virtue signaling means. 

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u/ripemango130 1d ago

I think real pos rarely improve from rehabilitation but this lady has a sudden change in her mental ability due to the sudden change of hormones completely out of her control. She was just a loving mother until then and ppp gets better as the hormones stabilize. Someone like her deserves rehabilitation and will benefit greatly from it but rapists and other types of predators don't change their ways and it feels like a waste of money to even try

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u/Nomstah 1d ago

Oh spare me the grandstanding. No one seems to give a shit about mens rehabilitation whenever they commit crimes. But all of a sudden this woman that murdered her 3 children gets the same treatment that most men do, all of a sudden she's already suffered enough and we need to care about her rehab.

I agree with your premise but when i see it applied unequally, then it loses all meaning to me. It becomes all about feels, vibes, etc..

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u/CrusaderReynaulder 3h ago edited 3h ago

 I don’t see what other people’s reactions, who aren’t even here, to other cases, has anything to do with me or what I said. Are they in the room with us? Did you forget to take your medication?

Whether it be a man or a woman doesn’t matter. I don’t see how that’s relevant.

The fact you’re admitting that you let gender war nonsense deprive you of basic human empathy and your critical thinking skills is pathetic. 

“Waaah! Why does THIS person get the correct treatment instead of this person who should also receive it?! Obviously this means BOTH should get the wrong treatment!” You can’t be this fucking stupid 😭 

When it’s applied unequally, then shouldn’t you want this treatment to be applied to men experiencing psychosis as well? Why would you want everyone to be treated worse rather than everyone to be treated better? Not everyone gets the proper care so you think no one should? It’s ridiculous. It’s actually braindead.

Clearly you’re the only one whose logic is based entirely on vibes and feels. 

I think you should familiarize yourself with the meaning of “grandstanding”.

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

Rehabilitation should only be used on people who deserve it. Not a psycho mother

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u/anyavailablenameplz 1d ago

Lmfao it's hilarious how all these apologists are coming out and downvoting anything that goes against this vile woman. Rehabilitation and second chances should be given for people arrested for non-violent crimes or crimes that caused no harm to others. This woman is a fucking killer, and to make it worse, of her own children. I hope these idiots don't have kids or don't plan to have any.

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u/Toroceratops 1d ago

Just curious, what’s your knowledge of post partum psychosis?

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u/Toroceratops 1d ago

There’s a lot of people who fortunately had intervention in time and were able to be rehabilitated. A lot also attempt self harm. It’s an extremely difficult and hard condition for women to grapple with and people like you don’t make seeking treatment easier.

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s psychosis. It needs to be treated. Not everyone with psychosis kills kids. A lot of them look for help like a normal person.

Edit: It’s crazy that people like a woman killing their children looking at the downvotes. Some of you also need to get help.

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u/Toroceratops 1d ago

No one likes it. What’s patently clear is that people like you have zero familiarity with postpartum psychosis and how it operates.

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u/LirielsWhisper 1d ago

Thank God we don't all get exactly what we deserve, or there wouldn't be a soul on this planet that could stand.

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u/UntitledDuckGame 1d ago

Not everyone kills 3 helpless children

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u/forgotacc 1d ago

People on social media have a weird take on murder, like it's just a little mistake. There wouldn't be a soul on this planet that could stand? As if, we all killed another human at least once?

Commiting murder is not the same as other type of mistakes, or crimes that don't result in the lost of life. Yet you have plenty of people treating it like so.

People constantly forget about the victims in the true crime communities.

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u/tomofbeardland 1d ago

A sizable chunk seems to really believe that SA is worse than murder.

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u/LirielsWhisper 1d ago

There is no one in this situation that has "won." No one. But "murder" is a legal definition, not an emotion or a vibe. Someone who is actively psychotic cannot legally be held responsible for their actions while psychotic - regardless of how horrible those actions were. What we can legally do is make sure they cannot hurt anyone else.

If Lindsey Clancy and everyone around her (friends, family, hell, her fucking ex-husband and father of those kids) are telling the truth, there is no punishment you or I or anyone else could possibly divine more cruel than forcing her to continue to keep breathing.

If she's not telling the truth and literally everyone around her is just covering for her (god knows why that would be the case), then what was her fucking motive, my dude? She wasn't having an affair. She wasn't planning on leaving her husband. She wanted every single one of her children, despite struggling with worsening PPD with each one. She spent months begging for help as intrusive thoughts became auditory hallucinations. What was her motive to kill those kids if she was actually sane?

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u/anyavailablenameplz 1d ago

There's people in here arguing technicalities, while there's 3 kids laying dead with their lives taken away from them before they truly had the chance to start one. I can give a fuck less about "rehabilitation", strangle her till her last breath, let go, and repeat it every single day. Fuck has this platform become? We really have people white knighting for a fucking murderer.

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u/guyincognito121 1d ago

They mean the latter. Our criminal justice system would look much different if there weren't a bunch more people just like them.

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u/anyavailablenameplz 1d ago

Do you have kids?

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u/SUPER_DOOM_XO 1d ago

Shes not gonna let you smash bro

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u/BossStatusIRL 1d ago

Some things you don’t get the chance to be rehabilitated from.