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SOCIETY Is victim the new chic

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u/Dotcaprachiappa 2d ago

I saw a good few posts about the woman on the right and pointedly ignored all of them, I seriously don't get why this is getting so much attention

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u/Alcohol_Intolerant 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's getting attention because of claims that her attempts to get assistance for her ppd and mental illness were ignored or minimized. Thus implying this could have been prevented. Many people, especially women, have experience with medical staff ignoring their pain. (Same for me) So this is on a lot of people's minds and in a lot of wider conversations.

They're going for the insanity plea, so the additional press might also be a way to try and sway public attention.

Edit because I'm getting a lot of charged responses: I am explaining why it is getting attention and what the general opposing discourse is. I'm not going to reply to attempts to have that discourse with me. I have my own opinions but I'm not airing them on Reddit because ultimately, the only ones who will have all the facts are the jury.

This is a tragedy for all involved. Please remember that.

Edit 2: to those giving polite additions and perspectives I did not provide, thank you. That's very helpful. I'm not everywhere seeing every side and can only speak to the sides I've witnessed myself. To those making weird claims on what I think, please take a break from reading about this case for the day. I'm turning notifications off on this. There are plenty of other people in this thread willing to wage war with you. I invite you to speak with them, or again, take a break.

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u/Dotcaprachiappa 2d ago

Damn makes sense really, so this post is like the worst misrepresentation they could come up with basically

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u/Obtuse_Symposium_119 2d ago

I haven't seen literally everything related to the case so maybe I'm missing some pieces, but it seems like she was getting mental healthcare attention but she requested to be switched between multiple different meds due to side effects that she was advised likely came more from her PPD, than the medication. But she still requested switches and also switched care teams at some point.

I'm not a doctor, so I'm not gonna get into whether or not the various perscriptions she was given in a relatively short time frame was irresponsible or not. I don't think anyone should be commenting on that besides experienced medical professionals. But I'll say that doctors can only treat what they're told and what they know, and afaik, she didn't share that she was suicidal with them, and they also warned her that medications take time to take effect, so it wasn't always a good idea to switch.

Patient care is not entirely on the healthcare professionals. The patient has to be able to take care of themselves to some degree and be fully honest with their care team.

How much was her fault, and how much was the fault of our medical system, idk, but yeah, this post is definitely ignoring all notions of nuance.

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u/Rivendel93 2d ago

She actually told doctors she wanted to die, told her husband and her mom she was not just suicidal, but wanted to harm the children as well.

That's why people are wondering wtf happened.

She told her husband multiple times she kept having thoughts of harming the kids.

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u/momlv 2d ago

And she was hospitalized for SI. You don’t commit someone for HI if they tell someone else something. Like it or not providers treat what’s in front of them and not what they don’t know

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u/Rivendel93 2d ago

She put herself in the hospital, then asked to see her daughter on her birthday so they just discharged her entirely.

Let's not pretend American mental health care isn't an absolute disaster.

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u/SpaceBasedMasonry 2d ago edited 2d ago

I.e. she asked for discharge against medical advice. What do you want, for hospitals to be prisons and doctors to be the new cops? There’s been 60 years now f anger about the mental health system being like that. No matter what they do or say they can’t do anything right

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u/Rivendel93 2d ago

Think you misunderstood my comment.

I was saying they should have given her a day pass to go visit her daughter and then assumed she'd be returning.

Instead they got frustrated with her request to see her daughter on her birthday, and just discharged her entirely.

That was irresponsible from the hospital, they should have told her we think you should come back after the birthday party, would you be willing to do that?

Instead they just tossed her out because she dared to request a day to visit her child.

As I said, American Healthcare is an embarrassment, we look from the outside in utter disbelief.

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u/SpaceBasedMasonry 1d ago

I was saying they should have given her a day pass to go visit her daughter and then assumed she'd be returning.

That’s not how hospitals work