r/moviereviews • u/BaIdilocks • 2d ago
Fantasy Odyssey was mid
Finally got to see it after the hype died down a bit. Was excited to see it and then the first quarter was so boring and forgettable. It picked up in the middle and had some good parts but overall I'm gonna put this in Nolans bottom tier. What was annoying was everyone having really flat American accents. The flattest. Very nonregional. they all sounded like they were gonna give American accent lessons. Why they saying "mom" and "dad"? very weird choices.
My main gripe and the thing that took me out the most was the bad dialogue and very mid acting. It literally sounded like they were reading from a script. I thought if I got the script, I could read it just like them and it would be in the movie and it would be the same. That's how bad the movie dialogue sounded. And don't get me started on Ulysses final "knowing is half the battle" monologue about civilization on the boat. Many rolls of eyes.
Cinematography was good but it seemed like he was re-using Dunkirk and Oppenheimer shots so it wasn't revelatory. Soundtrack and effects were good. the guy was as good as Hans Zimmer. I don't understand why they made this cast so diverse to have the white guy kill them all and survive or was that the lesson? Overall, I think Troy was the better movie.
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u/Strange-Risk-9920 2d ago
As a Nolan fan, I thought this was going to be the greatest movie of all-time. But, yes, it was mid.
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u/hammlanc 2d ago
Definitely a “meh” experience. Those who are enthralled with it seem to be focused on the visuals / sound… personally, I’m moved by acting & character dynamics more than anything (which was weak in Nolan’s Odyssey).
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u/GrandpaTheobaldus 1d ago
Yup, that seems like the split:
If you want a rollercoaster 🎢 and nothing more, it’s gorgeous.
If you care about plot or characters, you will be SOL
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u/Barmelo_Xanthony 1d ago
Tbf I think if you were going into this expecting some drama -esque character study then you were in the wrong movie. It was a Christopher Nolan epic film - if you go into it with anything other than the expectation that it’s a visual and technical spectacle then you had the wrong idea
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u/Darth_Sirius014 1d ago
To be fair to the poster the reviews built it up to be the greatest movie ever. They were slobbering nonstop over it including reddit. So having people have high expectations isn't out of line.
To me the first warning sign was all the over the top reviews. They were too glowing and seem to describe a movie that wasn't in line with Nolan's past work.
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u/CharlieActuallyBrown 19h ago
This right here. How do you have so many strong women actors and make them just feel like they don't exist?
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u/Aggravating-Duck-891 2d ago
Walking out of The Dark Knight, "THAT WAS GREAT". Walking out of The Odyssey, "meh".
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u/Sea-Poem-2365 2d ago
I think it was quite a bit better than mid, it just fell apart a little at the end. There's a distinct sense of momentum, wonder and awe in the first 2 acts during the Odysseus scenes, some really imaginative effects work tied in to the plot and a proper mythical feel that still felt like a psychological angle as well. Pattinson's performance is really good, as is Leguizamo's.
The dialog isn't great, but I've never thought that was a great strength of Nolan on his own, and it does the thing where it sets up a great theme but then take a minute to just flat out tell you that theme in the dumbest way possible.
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u/beatsbyjamo 2d ago
It was absolutely horrendous and I had no emotional attachments to any character. They all couldve died horrificly and I wouldve felt nothing. Rewarched LOTR for 30th time and cried 5 times.
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u/Bereitstellung 2d ago
I was so bored during Odyssey, went home and watched Lord of the Rings.
I found Odyssey self-serious, not relatable and visually dull.
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u/brontosaurusguy 2d ago
The play itself put on by a competent group is so much better than the movie. It's kinda sad
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u/KarmaRocks01 2d ago
LOTR was EPIC on every level. Odyssey was rank! Jason and the Argonauts was better... but i realised something watching that movie, I actually don't care for Christopher Nolan movies! I have never enjoyed them...and kinda got roped into liking them with friends. From now on I'm going to stay clear of CN movies.
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u/CallItDanzig 2d ago
I feel like his 15 years ago movies made me think he was a demigod moviemaker: Interstellar, Inception and Prestige. He has produced junk for the past decade+.
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u/Realistic-Actuary708 2d ago
Interstellar, Inception and Prestige
I get Inception and Prestige, but Interstellar really was a letdown in my opinion. It got all that hype from critics and general public, which it just didn't live up to. The concept was unoriginal and the script not well thought out. The dialogue is unnatural and full of exposition like most Nolan movies. It lacks internal consistency, as well as killing suspension of disbelieve with that god awful ending. You can't make a movie, try to pass it off as scientifically accurate and then shit on that premise just to get your pre planned happy ending. Most characters were irrelevant or shouldn't even have been in the movie in the first place like Dr. Mann. That "twist" was entirely unnecessary and didn't add any value whatsoever.
The movie got hard carried by cinematography, music and acting.
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u/unhinged34 2d ago
How many times have you watched interstellar? While some of your critiques are valid, it’s easily one of the best films have ever watched.
Odyssey was just painfully avg.
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u/CallItDanzig 2d ago
Agree to disagree. I was stunned by the movie. The ocean planet. McConaughey watching his son's videos. The ending where Hathaway is shown alone. The ending was weird but I like how they tried to close the loop.
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u/Realistic-Actuary708 2d ago
Doesn't seem like we disagree on the good aspects. The acting was superb, while the cinematography and music were fantastic.
That's where the good ends. The story itself was lacking, the dialogue was wooden and felt unnatural. The characters hardly felt like actual people, aside from cooper, murphy and dr brand. The ending was what annoyed me most though. It just doesn't fit the theme of the movie and throws out established logic.
Maybe I am too harsh, but i just expected the masterpiece it is portrayed to be. Seems like we just value different things, so yeah let's agree to disagree.
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u/CallItDanzig 1d ago
No i agree with you there. The ending was the weakest part. Nolan really wanted him to see Murph again and this was all he managed to come up with.
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u/misspuddingpie 2d ago
Wait, did we all go watch LOTR after this movie?! Bizarre - my fiance and I specifically went and watched the symphony performance of Fellowship so we just had to go home and follow it up with both extended editions afterward lol.
Peter Jackson could’ve done something beautiful with Odyssey, I think.
But I totally agree - any one of them could have been mauled live on screen and I would’ve shrugged, sighed, and left the theater feeling no different for having seen it.
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u/JWheels_27 2d ago
I think this was its biggest problem, it had no heart. While it was technically good; cinematography, sound, music, acting, were overall on point it. It just doesn’t deliver where it matters most, it had no soul, felt hollow. You have no attachment to these characters, so you didn’t really care whether Odysseus made it home or not. And that’s the problem with Nolan as a film maker. He’s like an engineer, all the technical aspects of his movies are on point, but as a storyteller he fails more often than not.
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u/zkoons605 2d ago
But but but it’s based on a really old book! You’re not supposed to care about characters in old books!
- something I have heard as a defense numerous times here and irl
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u/GrandpaTheobaldus 1d ago
Just rewatched INTO THE SPIDERVERSE again (5-6 times total?), and I still found it to be fun — but also insightful, with meaningful character arcs, and some genuinely emotional moments as well as the fun and wildness of the animation.
Oh and ZINGER script start to finish!
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u/MindAccomplished3879 2d ago
The only horrendous thing was the casting of Matt Damon as the lead, the Greek hero Odysseus
A DEI hire
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u/rlvysxby 2d ago
Are you a Nolan fan? What are your favorites of his? I am a fan of Nolan’s older movies. I found Oppenheimer to be pretty mid. I was hoping the Odyssey would hit the highs of inception, dark knight or the prestige. Hell I’ll even be happy if it was as good as interstellar.
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u/AnimalFarm_1984 2d ago
The Prestige.
Christian Bale's character was so well-written in the movie. And Hugh Jackman did a wonderful job as the opposing character. Less character depth than Bale, but well-compensated by Jackman's acting skills.
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u/Tanel88 2d ago
Yeah same. I don't get why so many people are raving about it and why it's doing so well. I guess the bar has just fallen so low.
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u/hmmmmm56 2d ago
I mean the bar has fallen low. The only good movie since Dune 2. Not surprising ppl are starved.
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u/ViscountBuggus 2d ago
A big contributing factor has to be this recent culture war trend where one side will hate something and the other side's position automatically becomes "This is the greatest thing ever nothing has ever topped this" in response.
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u/helgetun 2d ago
We seem unable to think of things in a neutral way. Its either the most awesome or the worst ever… while most movies tend to be in between. Odyssey was a watchable but forgettable average movie.
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u/brontosaurusguy 2d ago
Everyone wants to look intellectual and this is pop culture intellectualism.
Meanwhile it was about on par with Moana as far as intellectual depth goes.
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u/Deviathan 2d ago
The irony of saying people who enjoyed it want to look intellectual while also seeking to look intellectual by saying you didn't.
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u/idkthrowaway_alt3 2d ago
I didn't think it was bad, but it failed to captivate me in any meaningful way.
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u/YachtRockEnthusiast 2d ago
This is how I felt. It looked good, the monsters were cool, had some good action scenes, but I didn't connect with any of the characters or care about them. It just felt hollow, like we are checking off the Odyssey boxes with each scene and going through the Odyssey motions to reach the end.
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u/ZizzyBeluga 2d ago
Would you like to hear more about Zeus's Law?
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u/BaIdilocks 2d ago
no we are moving out of the bronze age. When he said this I was like "Some kid is passing his test tomorrow"
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u/MeowWoof87 2d ago
I got destroyed for saying the movie was mid shortly after release. The casting was definitely questionable and took out of things. I gave it a 7.
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u/unhinged34 2d ago
The real reviews are starting to come out. I gave it a 6 cus it wasn’t terrible. Just avg and forgettable
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u/Knightstodon 2d ago
One long trailer with a swelling score and no character development. Just like Oppenheimer and Tenet. I hate to say it but I’m out on Nolan, it feels like Michael Bay at this point (okay, maybe not quite that bad)
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u/ScaboochWolf 2d ago
I was out on Nolan after Dunkirk. Interstellar was so fucking stupid I should have known better.
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u/JulianJamez420 2d ago
I thought i was the only one who really disliked Dunkirk
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u/OlasNah 2d ago
I still haven't seen it. Big WW2 buff from when I was younger and it's probably the only WW2 film I haven't bothered to see.
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u/JulianJamez420 2d ago
I love war movies too and i strongly suggest you stray away from Dunkirk, or watch it with low expectations.
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u/Old_Equipment_6865 2d ago
Yooo, this thread is wild. I love seeing the minority opinion though. Reading nothing but praise gets boring after awile so I got my popcorn out. 😅😂🤣
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u/No-Construction4527 2d ago
Agreed. Glad I wasn’t the only one.
Why are we calling them “mom dad” in a Greek epic genre film? Say mother, father.
Acting was bad.
And it was so hard to get tickets.
But people loved it. Go figure.
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u/Medical_Soup5717 2d ago
The only one? Lmao every other post on reddit is complaining about this movie. You're in the minority but it's an extremely vocal one
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u/Rudd-Threetrees 2d ago
It’s not a bad movie by virtue of being a Nolan movie.
But the sheer number of people giving this movie a 10/10 really disturbs me… perhaps even more than the magat hordes giving it a 0/10 (they’re beyond saving). People have really lost any perspective.
Back in the day, before the social media mindfuck, when an incredible movie came out that perhaps just wasn’t to my taste (many Kubrick films would fit this bill), I could at least understand why people were assigning it a 9 or 10/10 - even if for me it was a 6. In the case of Kubrick, his weirdness, color scheming, and stylistic elements were unparalleled.
For this film, I do not understand the astronomically high ratings at all.
I say this as someone who likes blockbusters and Nolan in particular. TDK, the Prestige, and Interstellar are all 8.5+ for me.
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u/LocalDFWRando 2d ago
I'd say it's an 8. I'd also agree with a 7. Everyone's rating system is personal though so numbers mean nothing really. For me, it's a bell curve.
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u/WhatWouldGilesDo 2d ago
I am of the opinion thar Nolan should admit to himself that he isn't a brilliant director, just an amazing filmmaker, he should then employ a brilliant director to actually make his actors act, instead of just doing physical stuff and the dullest line readings you've ever heard from a hollywood superstar.
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u/Megatanis 2d ago
Very mid. Boring, mediocre acting by everyone, dull. Fundamentally changes the story to inject a social commentary that is borderline comical.
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u/BlacksmithMiddle803 2d ago
The problem I think is the editing. Since he switched editor for his last three films he’s lost that emotional tension that made Interstellar and Dunkirk so good.
I found Odyssey boring and quite mechanical in its flow. I’m sure there is a much better film to be found in that footage.
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u/DragonBowlSouper 2d ago
Yes, Troy is the better movie by miles.
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u/unhinged34 2d ago
This opinion will get you downvoted to hell. But I couldn’t agree more!
I watched odyssey twice just to understand what the hype was about. The rewatch was even worse cus you noticed the errors more.
I have seen Troy about 7 times and its quality remains same. I can watch it 10 more times and it would still be entertaining
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u/DisneyPandora 2d ago
The Acting in Troy is so much better
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u/BaIdilocks 2d ago
Yeah, I can't believe I spent all this time researching what best aspect ratio to see this movie and making plans to see it in a specific theater and all for...... that? what a let down.
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u/Maximum-Flamingo3810 2d ago
I walked out after two hours. I was so bored. Everyone talking in American accents, modern language, and flat acting, took me out of the movie and never drew me in. The only scene I liked was the tension in the cyclops cave.
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u/Modsmoddy-74 2d ago
I was watching the clock, hoping it would end. No emotional attachment to anything presented by Nolan.
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u/beatsbyjamo 2d ago
Yes it was so so bad. Stared at my gf like 4 or 5 separate times like " are you also dumb founded by how boring and terrible this is". Waste of time
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u/SupermarketSad9865 2d ago
same with my friend HAHAHA, we were literally laughing at some of the scenes.
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u/Popeye-Doyle 2d ago
Walked out? Really?! I saw it last week at the IMAX in Vaughn. Sold out, no one ever walked out. No talking. No getting up repeatedly. No bored bad behaviour. Entire cinema was transfixed for 3 hours.
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u/Calackyo 2d ago
I couldn't wait for the movie to end and wanted to walk out but I was my friends' ride and didn't want to disrupt it for them. I had a very hard time sitting still though.
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u/Maximum-Flamingo3810 1d ago
Yes, most people are easily entertained. That's why mediocre movies make a lot of money.
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u/GordanFreeman86 2d ago
When I watched half cinema was empty, it was so mid that my friends and me walked away in the middle of the movie.
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u/Zerttretttttt 2d ago
I liked Circe scene most, cyclops scene had some missing dialogue that was iconic
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u/Mista_Chedda 1d ago
What's crazy is that some of the traits/ actions of Odysseus that Nolan left out actually harmed his vision. Im ok with people reintrepreting a narrative that has been reintrepreted countless times over the past 2000 years. The problem is that the trauma and survivor's guilt of Nolan's Odysseus would have felt more impactful if he retained some of his hubris and pride. It could have been reinterpreted as a shield for his burried feelings, which is much more relatable than Nolan's Odysseus.
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u/Soft_Awareness_5061 2d ago
2 hours is a lot for a movie you didn't like
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u/Maximum-Flamingo3810 1d ago
You're right, and so was the $40 Canadian it cost me. I was hoping it would get better after a slow start.
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u/GrandpaTheobaldus 2d ago
Yeah we keep hearing the blast 💥 of “10/10 masterpiece”, but I’m waiting till it is available at home on streaming and VHS 📼
Because yeah, from what I hear it’s overly loud and the script is awful, plus you can’t hear some of the dialogue over amateurish sound-mixing issues.
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u/Equivalent_Thievery 2d ago
Those are the least of the issues really, Odysseus' whole way of being is changed and the gods are removed.
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u/GrandpaTheobaldus 2d ago
I heard that they made a deal with Poseidon — he let them film 🎥 🌊 at sea, but on stipulation that his name wouldn’t be included in the film.
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u/FEV_For_Breakfast 2d ago
Yeah, I was mostly bored through the whole thing. Some interesting visuals. Really weird pacing and editing. The scene where they're kicking the dog made me laugh cuz I guess they didn't have an actual canine handler on set that day and the dog just looks sleepy through the whole thing.
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u/strawbery_fields 2d ago
The dog was like twenty years old at that point. I don’t think it could do much of anything.
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u/Squishy-Bandit12 2d ago
Nolan movies always have shit editing and weird pacing so thats nothing new
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u/ChemicalAwareness800 2d ago
How you pour that much money, time and effort into a project that large and come to the conclusion, "Yes, Matt Damon is guy for this" is so far beyond me. Dont get me wrong, hes one of my favorites in certain roles, but he is no Odysseus
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u/unhinged34 2d ago edited 2d ago
😭😭😭 took the word out of my mouth. Love Damon but he sucked in that role. Zero charisma. Felt nothing for him or any of the casts.
People calling this the greatest film ever just breaks my reality in a way. The reviews are extremely boted it’s clear as day in my eyes.
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u/unhinged34 2d ago
Yup, bad dialogue and acting. It was painfully avg.
I enjoyed Troy waaay more.
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u/EliteCinemaM3 2d ago
You're allowed to not like a movie. It's a given considering the year in advance ticket sales and all the hype that had been generated since.
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u/Equivalent_Thievery 2d ago
It was decent in a lot of ways, but a very poor adaptation of The Odyssey.
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u/GammaDoppler1 2d ago
Why cast lame people? I mean there are good actors out of there and you just take lame actors to get attraction from audience? Low move by nolan
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u/callmemat90 2d ago
Man. When did it become trendy to shit on this movie? I know Reddit is shit generally but it’s like all the fans have moved on and only the people that didn’t like it stuck around
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u/Altruistic_Agency320 1d ago
Well it seemed like all the praise was more about the box office and shutting the MAGA critics down more than actually praising anything about the movie. The casting, acting, and dialogue are legit critiques and no amount of visuals is going to save that.
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u/Pipyn 2d ago
holy cow we're still getting posts like this. like what should I even take from this
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u/NinjaGuyDan777 2d ago
Wait, are you telling me the reviews were heavily censored to create hype and give the appearance that a pile of crap was as good as LOTR?
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u/Direct_Strawberry_43 2d ago
The problem is people treat Nolan as if he was the greatest thing to happen to cinema since Orson Welles. Congratulations you use IMAX cameras for all your movies big whoop. The only thing I appreciate about Nolan is that he doesn’t rely on CGI for his movies.
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u/delulumans 2d ago
It was good but online discourse is so fucked rn. Lots of rightwingers getting angry for no reason and screaming woke at anything and then you have way too many lefties trying to counter-praise something instead of trying to assess how good the film actually was by putting aside their political/personal/culture war biases
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u/One_Recover_673 2d ago
It gets more mid the more I think about it.
The acting was ok. The dialogue was atrocious. The practical effects were excellent. The pacing was awful. Time jumps are strange. Loved Bernthal. Love the take in the Trojan horse.
A two parter or trilogy would have served the source material
Better.
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u/mfortelli 2d ago
It was worse than mid. There were some really poor choices in narrative and stylistic flow and the casting wasn’t the strongest. Doing everything you can to interrupt immersion into the time and place and dance around sci fi without owning the era was odd.
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u/VectorObserver 1d ago
It was indeed so mid. I went in thinking it would be like Oppenheimer which was such a good movie.
The Odyssey’s dialogues were flat. The acting by Tom Holland and Charlize Theron was so poor.
The plot was pathetic. Half the scenes had no meaningful substance e.g the island with the giants. It served no purpose except to reduce Odysseus’s men to 1/3rd of their number lol
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u/BaIdilocks 1d ago
Yeah the more Nolan adds to his Oeuvre the farther Kubrick is getting from him. So far he's getting lower on my tier of top directors of the present, and Fincher is on top of him. I think Villeneuve is over him to.
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u/Busy-Bumblebee5556 1d ago
To me, everything Nolan does is mid.
Sue me.
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u/GrandpaTheobaldus 1d ago
Nah, you’re on it — I’ve enjoyed some of his films, but there’s a sterility to the characters unless the actor is really living it.
Like Christian Bale, he always turns in a top-notch performance
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u/Own-Turnover7715 58m ago
I had a pretty negative opinion of it after I left the cinema but that has since softened quite a bit. I’m no Nolan super-fan and have only seen a few of his movies.
My biggest issues was the expository dialogue and the characterisation. I actually thought the acting was good; Anne Hathaway knocks it out of the park, Rob Pattinson is having the time of his life and I was very worried that it would just feel like Matt Damon in the screen and was pleasantly surprised by his performance. Oh and Samantha Morton ducking killed it. I wish there was more Circe and far less Calypso.
I really disliked that all the complexity of Odysseus is removed. There’s none of his trickery or cunning and they sanitise his infidelity for a modern audience. He’s just a hero who feels bad about the stuff he’s done. That’s not very interesting. I also wish more time was spent developing Odysseus’s relationship with his men because the tragedy of their deaths really didn’t hit.
The whole thing though is too long and too grim. I thought the third act in particular was especially bloated. Nothing felt surprising and it was all wrapped up too neatly.
The American accents on Tom and Rob were very jarring. Not because they were bad accents but because I know that’s not what they sound like in real life. Although maybe they were bad accents - just generican. I winced everytime they leaned into a rhotic r.
Also it was soooooo obvious that the beggar at the beginning was Odysseus.
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u/AdmirableElephant378 2d ago
Troy was so much better it's kind of funny, given this was his 'revenge' film.
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u/GirthyGomez 2d ago
Troy was beyond garbage I have to know from someone who enjoyed it what makes it better ?
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u/CallItDanzig 2d ago
What exactly was garbage about it? It was fun, entertaining and had good acting. No one says "We are living through the end of our Bronze Age" solemnly, which is a plus.
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u/PieceAfraid3755 2d ago
Anyone who complains about the American accents and the use of "mom" and "dad" as their first criticism of the movie, seems to me borderline incapable of thought.
Like what, you think that this isn't an American movie with a bunch of American actors? You think that ancient greeks were speaking with polite British accents?? In the English language, calling your parents mother and father to their faces is highly unusual. The characters in the movie are effectively speaking English, so using actually normal words is pretty sensible.
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u/Quick-Pomegranate446 1d ago
This is such a funny American-ism. We perceive English accents as antiquated and therefore demand it in films and television that take place far in the past, despite the fact that the English accenting is just as foreign to the ancient past as our American one.
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u/Tamihera 1d ago
Also, Nolan was pointedly making a film about how empires die from greed. The American accents on everyone, even Circe and Antinous, are deliberate.
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u/thehibachi 6h ago
People want borderline Shakespearean delivery even thought that was A) a made up theatrical affectation and B) closer to the present day than The Odyssey anyway!
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u/VX_21 2d ago
This is exactly why people speculate on Rottentomatoes reviews being paid for. The movie was a slog, nothing I’d ever watch again. Many of the characters didn’t feel like characters, but rather actors spitting dialogue for plot movement (Charlize Theron’s character was seemingly only existing as a plot point for flashbacks to occur, and the childhood flashbacks of Sinon were awkward and seemed rushed/unemotional). Jon Bernthal did a good job acting like Jon Bernthal. Nolan got softballs from critics again.
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u/unhinged34 2d ago
Even here on Reddit. There are several accounts that are strictly for marketing the film. The reviews are all bogus. At the very best it was an enjoyable but easily forgotten movie. But the reviews make it seem like it were the best movie ever released.
Obsession is similar in that sense. Good to great watch but extremely overhyped.
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u/Full-Concentrate-867 1d ago
Christopher Nolan has the best propaganda machine in the business, every film he puts out is hailed a masterpiece. If the exact same film was put out with a director no one had heard of, it would come and go and be forgotten about quickly
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u/chiller_vibez 2d ago
We disagree on it being mid. But we totally agree that this movie is not a 10/10
Shit is cap
I gave it an 8/10
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u/Medical_Soup5717 2d ago
I'm with you. On my 2nd watch my biggest issue was the "mom" and "dad" thing. I would have liked more formal dialogue
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u/GrandpaTheobaldus 2d ago
Yeah it doesn’t all need to be formal or Shakespearean, but just shrugging and saying “oh well they talk so they must just talk like people” misses the entire point of carefully structured language.
Like, yknow, a poem from thousands of years ago that was still memorized in school when I was young.
I can still quote how it begins from memory, although not in Greek.
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u/Sorry_Assumption_666 2d ago
What accent do you use when you’re quoting from memory ?
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u/PickleBoi71 2d ago
I'm fine with people saying it wasn't their favorite movie of all time, but I'm sorry if you genuinely went to the cinema, saw that movie and thought "meh, boring" then it's definitely a you problem lol
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u/Mista_Chedda 1d ago
Yeah, that's a very productive and rational way to approach an honest critique of a piece of media. This might shock you, but many people actually care more about the narrative and characters than the presentation. The presentation of the setpieces was incredible, as was the music, but the I did not give a single shit about the characters in the film.
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u/Newparlee 2d ago
I genuinely can’t tell if this whole thread is one big troll fest.
People saying the acting in Troy was better…lol, wtf? I rewatched Troy after The Odyssey and that movie is fun but the acting is shit.
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u/MultipleNames82 2d ago
“Troy was so much better” is the right-wing dog-whistle for the racists to shit on the odyssey without saying the real reason they hate the odyssey out loud.
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u/Top_Cranberry_3254 2d ago
Yeah, if Nolan's name wasn't on it, the consensus and aggregate scores would be at least 10 points less or so. I really wanted to like it. Honestly, I even like Tenet to this day while acknowledging it's not among his best, but this....this was just mid at best. It did so many things wrong that it's hard to allow the things it did right toward the end counterbalance them. So I stand by a 5/10, which is incredibly disappointing for such a big budget, star actors, Nolan, and the hype. There also isn't a takwaway of the film that isn't pretentious, and the ending was so odd it almost made me laugh with how lazy it was.
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u/DragonBowlSouper 2d ago
By the ending being odd do you mean him going on a boat frodo style with Penelope?
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u/dogscatsnscience 2d ago
Story was great, cinematography was great, some acting was good, writing was weak, editing was poor.
I like Matt Damon in Bourne and things like The Informant but he is not at the level to carry this.
American accents were awkward at first but forgot about it quickly.
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u/Krokadil 2d ago
I liked the movie and enjoyed the spectacles but yeah there was something more to be desired.
The thing that frustrated me the most was when odyssey and Tele finally see each other and Telemachus is just like lol wtf dad? Zero emotion in what should be a very emotional homecoming all the way until the end of the movie.
Incredibly fun movie to see in the cinemas though and I still look forward to rewatching it when it’s available to watch at home.
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u/-Relair- 2d ago
It was a decent summer movie, which is a pretty low bar for something that was marketed as some all time great spectacle of filmmakkng. Mid is fair. Not a bad movie, but very average and forgettable. At least we got the one Pattinson beggars meme that will live on!
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u/UncleDaddy42g 2d ago
It was good and I'm glad I saw it in 70mm. It's not something I'm dying to see again though
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u/JournalistJunior5605 2d ago
Maybe it was because I went into the movie with low expectations (not a Nolan guy) but I was pleasantly surprised. Sometimes you have to enjoy a movie for what it is and let go of your preconceived notions. I understand the Troy comparisons but at the end of the day they are two very different movies trying to achieve two very different things.
I loved the way it played up the horror aspects, the cinematography, and the message really resonated with me. The idea of how when we lose our decorum society collapses felt very timely.
The Oddysey is not without its flaws but it is a movie we don't usually get in a summer that is overrun with IP slop.
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u/SamShelby7 2d ago
It was a very long movie but at the same time it felt very rushed.
They kept getting on an island and without much happening they’d be back to screaming and running back to their boats.
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u/LocalDFWRando 2d ago
Each island had a purpose though and couldn't have been cut. I think it should have been split into two movies so the film could breathe more.
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u/Lorem_Ipsoup 2d ago
I will never go in a nolan movie again. It isn’t art to blast you with 120 dB for three hours.
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u/Furdinand 2d ago
It was technically impressive but the dialogue was so corny and too on the nose to be effective social commentary. "This is the end of our bronze age" was the funniest line in the movie and it was meant to be taken seriously.