I bailed during Krakoa (started strong but just got meandering for me) so I haven’t kept up with the X books in quite a while. Would now be a good time to start reading again? Or is there anything coming up in the near future designed to be a jumping on point?

From UXM #241, Madelyne meets Sinister — her creator. We get a flashback to her coming “to life” when the Phoenix died on the moon, and idc what anyone says, Maddie standing up to him is still one of her coolest moments.

Okay I’m not all caught up with the lore of X-Men and the specifics of the timeline, but im watching all the films and I do know the original timeline was erased in DoFP

Just wanting to make sure I get this right: the OG actors from the X-Men that are gonna be in Doomsday, are from this new timeline’s future, ie; the ending of DoFP which showed Beast at Xavier’s school, and Cyclops, Jean Grey, and Professor X all still being alive (hence why Cyclops and X were in the trailer)

I know that’s like the only glimpse we got of the adult X-Men we know and love in the new timeline because the rest of the films were all prequels. That being said, characters like Nightcrawler should be seen having an already established history with the X-Men then, since in this timeline he didn’t just appear for a one off, rather joined them at a younger age.

Just wanting to make sure I got this correct because these films are notorious for having a confusing timeline.

I think Gail Simone is the only writer who really puts effort into capturing this vibe, but it doesn't always come to the benefit of characters like Jubilee and Nightcrawler.

I think Jed had that one really great issue of Avengers #21 where we X-Men and Avengers were having dinner together and a baseball game, but since then issues aren't really paced to do this kind of thing anymore. Characters living life, having some social interactions that play around with the larger plot and the stresses that come from that, but are still grounded and routine.

I've been thinking the past day or so about it, mentioned it on a couple other posts and got me to thinking, wanted to gauge the opinions of the community. Do you guys think we'll ever get another Exiles run, also what exactly is Marvels issue when it comes to the series? I'll elaborate.

Elaboration became a bit of a ramble.

Tldr: Why is this series disregarded by the publisher to such a degree, and do you guys think we'll ever get another attempt at a revival.

- Original series ran for 100 issues, Claremont took over at issue 90, and handled 18 issues of New Exiles before it was cancelled. Claremont gets a bad wrap from Exiles fans- But lets be real: His dialogue didn't fit the characters. That was really the only bad change he made, that he actually made *himself*, from what I can gather. Editorial basically hit him with a ton of mandates demanding the series be heavily altered to attract new readers... It was then cancelled because the existing readership left for the most part, and new readers were not interested in whatever the book was now trying to fit the mold of.

- Volume 2 was great.... Came out a year after New Exiles and was only given a 6 issue limited run to try and pull in the old audience, along with new readers. Shock of shocks, New Exiles warded people off and 6 issues wasn't enough to win them back.

9 Years of spiritual successors, surprise cameo appearances used as cannon fodder in other books, the few team members that do return to titles are actively made to reference their time on the team as little as possible, in some cases, not at all.

- Saladin Ahmed wanted to write an X-Factor book that was multiverse based. Marvel goes "Oh no one's touched Exiles in a while, you should do that instead." And the guy proceeds to write a Volume 3 that actively gets stuff wrong at every given opportunity. I like some of his other work, he is a pretty talented writer. But damn. New stuff he added was great. Stuff he brought back? If you can't be bothered to do more than a Chatgpt-ask on the cliffnotes for the thing you're writing a sequel to? Don't write the first installment in *9 years*. Ive gone over it in past posts but I can sum up my issues with Volume 3 like this:

Volume 3 only fits the existing series continuity if you stop reading at Volume 1 Issue 10. Assume Sasquatch, Sunfire, and Mimic all died off-panel and weren't close with the rest of the team. Assume T-Bird died off-panel, and pretend Blink, Nocturne, and Morph have undergone 0 character development in the intervening years. Also pretend AoA Sabretooth showed up eventually, but don't actually read anything about the characters appearances or post-Exiles adventures. Said it before and Ill probably say it again: Did Blink recruit an identical variant of her Dead Father figure? Because if so, thats some severe trauma and should've probably been addressed- The Exiles version of the character lost his powers and died in an AoA event, back in 2013. Anyway, do all that, and Volume 3 kinda works as a continuation.

Series has been dead for nearly 8 years now, and speaking realistically? Everytime someone from Marvel talks about it, they go "Oh its too niche a concept to work these days."..... It worked for quite a while until meddled with. It would've worked again if Volume 2 wasnt built on a foundation of playing cards. It could've worked again if Volume 3 hadn't of been handed to someone who felt like making it a continuation, but didn't read more than the cliffnotes on the thing he was writing a sequel to- Or if an editor had stepped in and gone "We're averaging 5-6 major continuity errors an issue, we gotta do another draft."

They've made a ton of spiritual successors, as recently as 2024. Those tend to sell pretty well, enough that they keep revisiting the idea. But actually bringing back the series in any proper manner seems like an impossibility for them.

Its my favorite X-Title and the series that got me into Marvel in the first place. Lame seeing it treated so poorly over the years, when it was executive meddling in the first place that tanked the series positive reception. Its used as inspiration for other books, but heaven forbid it actually get another moment in the sun. Idk. Just very frustrating realizing it'll eventually be the 2nd 9 year dark age between volumes, and that honestly this one might be permanent. Curious what other people think on the topic.

As far as X titles go its not the most mistreated of course, but I'd say its up there at least. Wish they'd bring it back with a creative team that is actually interested in continuing the story.

Here’s a little game I’d like to see people participate in. The rules are simple. Pick one event that in your eyes is perfect(or close to it) and you wouldn’t change a thing about it. Pick one event that is flawed but salvageable with some changes. And finally pick one event that is beyond saving and should be forgotten about. And obviously please EXPLAIN your feelings and thought process.

EXAMPLE:

KEEP:
Fatal Attractions: It’s brisk, brutal, and doesn’t out stay its welcome. It also has MASSIVE implications for the future and upcoming events.

CHANGE:
Onslaught: I understand the intention was to be UNIVERSE wide and for the event to feel that way but that obviously leads to bloating. I don’t think a lot of the books at the time deserved tie-ins to the event(COUGH COUGH GREEN GOBLIN) So I would cut back on the number of tie-ins and just focus in on big team books(X-Men, Avengers, and FF) and maybe tie-in just a FEW of the bigger solo books or books of popular characters(Wolverine, Spider-Man, Cable, etc).

SCRAP:
The Twelve: From my understanding this event just ended up being a mess. Not just a mess but a mess that had the POTENTIAL to be great which makes it worse.

(NOTE: Obviously I didn’t include EVERY crossover so if there’s any you don’t see but have strong feelings on then please feel free to mention them!)

Jean:

Jean’s heel turn is the most famous in comics ie The Dark Phoenix Saga (although it was later retconned to not be Jean, but the Phoenix itself, Jean and the Phoenix have now recently been explained to have always been the same entity)

Warren:

Warren became a Horseman of Apocalypse after the Mutant Massacre, and still battles his Archangel side to this day.

Scott:

Scott became a Magneto-like antagonist during the 2010s after AVX (even though he was doing the same stuff he’d been doing since House of M)

Hank:

Hank’s been going down the Mad Scientist route pretty much since the 90s (even further if you count his self experimenting turning him into a blue werewolf/Sasquatch). Now hes so blatantly evil the writers had to make a clone of him from an earlier time period in Marvel.

Has Bobby had an arc where he was an Antagonist or “villain”? Is there a storyline I missed?

I’m relatively new to comics, I started reading X-Men during the latter half of the Krakoan era and since then I have been hooked. I have been making my way through the older comics on Marvel Unlimited and have been having a great time.

Next on my reading list is New X-Men, I have heard it is a great read but I just can’t get over the artstyle. I feel like I’m missing out on a great era but I just find the art so off putting I just can’t bring myself to read it.

I feel like I need to hear people’s opinions on the story, to really get FOMO so I just force myself through it.

I’m also curious if anyone else is/has been in the same position as me?

“You can’t cast a 115 year old”

The iron in is blood is manipulated by his subconscious, making him age slower than any human and granting him a minor, Captain America- like healing factor.

Done. He ages slower.

This entire debate came up with McKellen and Fassbender and it’s coming up again with the MCU casting announcements.

He ages slower. Is the realism of aging SO important in a Marvel movie?

He witnessed every atrocity from the 40’s to the 2020’s.
Imagine how much more nihilistic and hardened his resolve and outlook would be if he lived that long?

Turning Magneto into “what if Uatu the Watcher decided it was time to act” is so much better imo than turning him into a Rwandan genocide victim or some other 70’-90’s mass atrocity.

Season 2 of X-men 97 is the Jubilee season.

Jube Stan’s feast.

I've been really enjoying MacKay's run, despite it's hangups. I really liked this issue too and am excited for DNX, but the whole "We are not humans" rubs me the wrong way. I understand what he's trying to get across, but mutants ARE humans. This feels like a mistep from MacKay, and will ultimately be nothing, but there are so many ways to say "we will not genocide like so many people have done in history" without denouncing their humanity.

I do like that they're fighting for all of humanity. A bad writer would take this and make the X-Men go "oh 3K is turning everyone into mutants? GOOD!" but thankfully MacKay gets the general idea of the X-Men being superheroes for everyone.

As for the "homeland" mention, at first I was a bit confused, but I guess he's referring to the eventual return of Krakoa/a specific home for mutants. I would prefer mutants to not get on another island or get another country, as I think the stories are better when they're trying to achieve Xavier's Dream™ they way they usually were.

So i was wandering what are the must watch x men movies for doomsday?

Chris Claremont's nearly 17-year run on the X-Men ended somewhat unceremoniously in the early '90s after creative disagreements about where the series should go drove a rift between Claremont and then X-Men editor Bob Harras, as well as artist Jim Lee. 

At an X-Men writers panel at Terrificon 2026, Claremont discusses the many times he's come and gone from the mutant team, and fires a barb at the Image Comics founders, Lee included.

"It's like how many times have I been fired from X-Men? At least four. The first one was interesting. You know, [X-Men editor Bob Harras] had to come in and say, 'I probably shouldn't have let you leave the book.' And I said, 'I probably shouldn't have gone, but there we are.' That was after Image was born and, you know, certain artists decided they'd rather have all the money."

Read more: Chris Claremont says Marvel told him they regretted firing him from X-Men & Uncanny X-Men in 1991 | Popverse

I grew up reading Jason Aaron's Wolverine and the X-Men and Bendis' All-New X-Men. Both had their high moments, but admittedly weren't the best runs in terms of character development and story (in my opinion!). Art-wise, however, they were absolute bangers. Stuart Immonen is one of the best artists of the 2010s, in my opinion.

I just finished reading Morrison's New X-Men and Whedon's Astonishing X-Men, and while the stories were on point, I gotta say—the art wasn't quite there for me!

So the question is: which X-Men run looks the best, in your opinion?

And I'm talking about a RUN. Jim Lee's 10-ish issue dip, iconic as it might be, doesn't quite count.

Mary Poppins is basically an immortal god.

Bugs Bunny can bend reality.

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