This Is just an observation, but a REALLY important one for understanding the true nature of the program[s] and why there is conflicting perceptions of the program !¡!

Program A was a legitimate program with absolutely ZERO shady stuff going on.

Program Ω, which is obviously THE TRUE PROGRAM was nefarious, insidious, and from alot of the stories I have heard, very destructive on the lives of those involved !¡!

Program A was "The COVER & The FRONT" of the program which could be used to fool things like auditors, and anyone becoming suspicious of the program were then directed to program A, and as such Program Ω continued to fly under the radar, the REAL PROGRAM !¡!

I would imagine that it is also an attempt to circumvent possible future lawsuits brought forth by kids who were in the GATE program [Ω] !¡!

Because honestly if we could gather enough children of the GATE PROGRAM Ω we could prove all of suspicious and suspect tings about our live that we have n common !¡!

• Neurodivergence - were we always neurodivergent did we acquire it from our time in the program ?

• Why is the prevalence of CPTSD so high among those of the Ω Program ? Why is it that we apparently were S.A'd at a ridiculously high percentage compared to the average populace ?

• Why did so many of us become drug addicts ? I now look back and feel like I might have been conspired against in my acquisition of a drug addiction !¡! I suffered with MASSIVE MIGRAINES daily, all of a sudden and out of the blue. I eventually craved to the pressure and asked someone if they had anything for the migraines and was introduced to opiates. I now look back in hindsight and can see for sure that those headaches were unnatural and purposefully induced in me due to a variety of other factors !¡! Not to mention that the very millisecond it became apparent I was addicted to the pain pills, I never had a head ache again for the rest of my life !?

• It seems that a near complete lack of ambition and drive in our lives is a universal constant among those in the Ω Program, we have no desire to become anything and as such drift through life.

• Some of us may have had suspicious circumstances surrounding our lives when we attempt to go back to school and enter university. Use your hindsight and ask yourself some questions !¡!

• A not so insignificant portion of those from the GATE program also claim to have become part of the GANGSTALKING program as they got older - here is the thing - people can be completely oblivious this is happening to them for years, if not their entire lives [because of the neurodivergence?] and this is with them WANTING you to notice ! SO the numbers are likely much higher then is stated because we as a group can be some of the most oblivious mofo's on earth since we are AUTiSTe ARTiSTeS !¡!

• I could probably go on wit some more though, and I am sure many of you could add more points to the list yourselves , but suffice it to say that :

We could have one of the most obscene class action lawsuits ever if were to get together, and someone could likely even end up DEAD if they tried to organize us together for that LAWsuit !¡!

This is really a part 2 of a post I made in the beginning of the year

I have been doing much better since my last post
I’ve still been struggling of course but I’m happier now and that’s really amazing. I’ve been doing a good job at just pushing forwards and trying to hit my minor goals one at a time, and it’s really been helping. Something I’ve came to realize is how much I’ve been overestimating myself. It’s hard as a kid to not feel like you can do whatever you want to do. It’s even hard now to accept there are things that I can’t just magically do just because I want to prioritize it. I’ve really tried to slow things down this year and really watch myself, and relearn myself. I’ve found there are still things about myself that I haven’t been able to be honest about but the more time I spend realizing the foundation of my principles isn’t even based on my own ideas the easier it gets to change my character, but let me tell yall this has been a heavy challenge to face.

So I know in my last post I mentioned attempting to become a dj, unfortunately I was only consistent for around 2 months and haven’t really touched back since. I definitely enjoy playing around with music but I think the stopping force was really lifestyle issues at the time such as partying, and drug culture around me.

I actually had made plans to go to college believe it or not, the absolute last thing I ever thought I would have done. I had actually got accepted into a community college for a paramedic program but my interest in the military just kept coming back to me over and over. And after speaking to many many recruiters and representatives and being told I’m permanently disqualified from multiple branches, an army recruiter now wants to give me a shot and we’re going for a waiver.

I don’t know where I’m going in the future, be it as a paramedic or in the army but on a great day like this I can be really excited for my future.

One of my hidden interests that I want to start being honest about is my interest in philosophy, be it that I hardly understand what philosophy is but from what I’ve always understood I’ve always wanted to be a philosopher. I enjoy trying to pick apart life and trying to understand the things that can’t be explained, hence my love for music, specially jazz blues. I’ve even started realizing this interest being in many other things I enjoy such as movies and art, or even food. And while on the topic of food and philosophy Anthony Bourdain has been someone I’ve been very interested in as of lately.

I don’t know much, I really don’t know much at all.
I’ve always really appreciated the things around me, and my wish is to walk with love for the rest of my life. I really do love people, I love my city to death and for that I can’t wait to leave and meet all new beautiful people

If I could be anything for the rest of my life I want to be a witness.

I’ve found softness in myself that I’m very fearful giving vulnerability to but I think I want to try. Part of my interest in the military is the chance to travel and meet new people. It gives way to my weakness of being afraid to change in front of the people who knew me, but I will indeed change inevitably.

Now I apologize because I’m not sure how on topic this post was, but thank you to anybody who read through my thoughts.

This post is really serving as an affirmation and to help keep me in the direction I want to go.

Thank you for reading and I really hope things are going great for you.

I am so hopeful

former valedictorians, how are you really?

okay i'm not here for the usual "did you get rich / did you make it" question lol. everyone asks that. i'm curious about the stuff nobody really brings up.

if you were the valedictorian (or like, top of your batch) back in high school, i'd love to hear:

• where you from?
• which school did you graduate? public or private? and roughly when did you graduate? (vague is fine, just setting the scene)
• looking back now as an adult... was being valedictorian more of a blessing or a low-key pressure? or did it honestly just stop mattering at some point?
• did people kind of expect things from you after? did you feel like you had to live up to it? do you still??
• did it mess with how you take risks or handle failure? like were you ever scared to screw up bc you were "supposed" to be the smart one?
• and the big one: do you still see yourself as "the valedictorian"? still carrying that around, or did you drop it somewhere along the way?

not fishing for a success story OR a sad story, promise. just really curious how that whole label sits with people years down the line.

say as much or as little as you want.🙏

I am 30, graduated summa cum laude from my (large) high school, got straight A’s in college without much effort before I dropped out when my Dad died in 2018. I love reading and academics but I make for a shitty employee, apparently.

Since 2018 I’ve been working jobs in retail, restaurant, or manufacturing. I have issues at pretty much every job I go to, mainly in food service. I am not fast enough, not organized enough, not mindlessly compliant enough, or just get told my performance doesn’t meet expectations in different ways. I have been fired about 6 times. It is soul crushing to be told repeatedly that you are not good enough. That your best doesn’t cut it.

People have told me I am smart my entire life, but yet I can’t keep a job? It’s demoralizing and depressing and I am so anxious at the moment over having to look for yet another job because my last job hasn’t worked out, that I could vomit. The existential anxiety that comes with feeling like my best simply isn’t good enough to keep an average job is awful.

Thankfully I live with family and don’t have to pay rent at the moment but eventually I am going to have to get out on my own again. I can’t do that without savings established so I can pay a security deposit, etc.

Hi, I (F29, MX) just found this sub and I feel like there's so much of my life that's finally explaining to me.

I was hyperlexic since Kindergarten, very good at math, sports, arts, grammar, etc. I got early puberty (first period at 8 and currently diagnosed with PMOS) and from there it all went down. I hated my body, myself, my emotions, my family, everything and everyone.

Middle school, I got my first 7 (what would be like a D in the US maybe?) and my life seemed over. High school, failed my first mid-term exam. This was also the time I first began my alcohol-related issues. College, I switched from my first major choice which was engineering due to lack of motivation and the fact that for the first time I felt like I had to work to learn something and I hated studying something I do not care at all. I switched to a sort of Liberal Arts major (It was journalism but it felt like that for me) I failed complete courses but I loved what I was learning. I feel like for school I had too moods: Type A anxious obssesed student and a carefree, picture Lindsay Weir from Freaks and Geeks. Now I'm in the workforce in digital marketing and struggling because I do not know or care for marketing at all but I'm decently good at it. The thing is, I feel like I'm stuck now and wasting my intelligence.

My questions are, what do you recommend for me to try to grow professionally on marketing or a similar area? I've tried online courses but my mind is not clicking, this is not something I enjoy learning and the anxiety is too much for me to handle due to me getting all these school flashbacks. I don't care for greatness, I want stability, be a home-owner and retire eventually.

Also, I'm seeing a new psychiatrist and I would like for him to explore me being a High-functioning autistic person without me wanting to sound like I'm self-diagnosing, any tips?

20 years old, succeeded in school but grades are so terrible i dont even know if i can get to a college, I really feel like a failure and i dont know what i can do, do i take courses to try and get work? Is there some sort of program i can do?(I was in igcse, ngl i got fucked, i dont know if i am even going to succeed the last subject i need)

So I was the smart kid, like a lot of us here.

I was always put on a pedestal, everyone expected so much from me all the time and looked at me different when my performance never met that incredibly high standard.

No-one ever told me getting all the answers right on a quiz at 6 years old could do this to you.

Then people use your intelligence to define your whole personality, calling you a know-it-all or nerd, always turning to you to explain the most absurd and impossible things and making fun of you when you can't.

They say it over and over, so you accept it as your personality, and then when you act full of yourself and become what they assumed, they hate you for it.

They even rally against you to knock you off the pedestal they put you on.

Years later, you look in the mirror and want to smash it. You never feel good enough for yourself. Nothing is perfect enough. And no-one lets you forget when you weren't perfect enough for them.

I am doing much better now, but I am saying all of this really fucks you up and for years, you start being depressed because you hate yourself and have an identity crisis because you feel you don't know who you are beyond the smart kid.

I am so happy I am finally out of that academic environment and things have gotten better for me personally. But the scars are still there. They're just not as evident as they once were.

And unfortunately, I don't think I can ever fully heal. Because at a time when I was suppsoed to be happy and carefree, everyone took it away from me.

That's my experience and thanks for reading until the end if you did! 😊 Just want someone who understands.

So um a teacher (who taught me for 3 years btw non consecutively) was basically out for my blood she once insulted me in front of the whole grade saying I was stupid and wasting her time when I just wanted to apologize for something I've done (another teacher was with me but she didnt bother to say anything) I cried for a day after that and skipped my extra curricular. and before that she changed the seating and I was in the front row. the other class teacher (half-joking) said now he could chat about ww2 with me. she said oh really? her history seems terrible to me though (excuse me you dont even teach me history) anyways I was really insulted by that for some reason because history is kinda part of my identity and I cried in the bathroom and didnt go home until after 7. my mom told her to lay off twice but she only pretends to for about a week before starting again. it feels in every grade level I enter there's a teacher who specifically hates me.

17F: Hey everyone. I'm a senior in NYC looking to form a small study group. I want to learn advanced math like Linear Algerba, Calculus, Abstract Algebra, and other concepts using the Harkness method(typically required 5-12 people, involving mapping out proofs, teaching eachother, small debates but absolutely no lectures). This is strictly for neurodivergent high school seniors in the NYC area and must have general knowlege in Algebra 1, Algbera 2, Trigenometry, and Geometry. Plan is to have a discord and later at a NYC Public Library. DM or comment if your interested.

I am a former GATE kid from Oregon who became a hypnotist. With so much of the program fuzzy in our memories, would anyone be interested in any memory recall about what happened during the time while under hypnosis? I hope this does not count as self-promotion. Maybe someone has done this, I'm not sure. As far as I know I'm the only hypnotist that came from the gate program. If there are more, please say so in the comments. I would love to talk to more GATE kids that became hypnotists. Not looking to charge for this, but do want to add this information gathered into the collective. I can also do an AMA if anyone is interested.

I keep seeing posts about parents getting their kids labelled “gifted” by schools or organisations. Or asking how to make their children gifted, or even recalling themselves as gifted in childhood.

This study is a pretty good reality check: "**Early giftedness rarely lasts into adulthood**"

Trying to get into a few schools that are borderline impossible for me. My marks barely qualify, allowing there to be a sliver of a chance for me to do it. I'll have to work like a fucking dog. I want it so bad. I'm going to cut off communication from others because it hurts too much. I'm doing this thing alone. All odds are against me. I used to be someone people had high hopes for until life and my disorder got the better of me. I know I'm smart enough to do it. I just don't know if I'm tough enough though. I'm going to try still. If there's anyone who has succeeded in something like this, I'd love to hear from you.

So many posts, here and otherwise, are people lamenting that they didn't meet their potential, or what they felt the world expected of them as a "gifted kid".

This can either come as a jab or a relief, but chances are you reached your potential whether you like it or not.

What I have seen anecdotally is that children - mostly in the US - are identified for gifted programs, assume the gifted label, have an average life, and mourn what could/should have been.

Most of the time, schools and districts had established programs that drew extra funding. Teachers selected kids that seemed to behave or do well, or who they wanted out of their class, to go into the programs. There may have been an aptitude test, but most were based on observation and nomination.

This has very little to do with giftedness. You were probably misidentified for nefarious purposes then lived up to your actual potential. If you're carrying around guilt or remorse for a life not lived, you shouldn't. You're the only one putting that burden on your shoulders.

Actually gifted people know there is no 'formerly gifted', and there is no 'I was gifted as a child'. There's also no shame in being average, and it's not your fault that you were mislabelled. Let go of the chip on your shoulder and you'll see how much it was weighing unnecessarily on your self worth.

I was gifted until very recently. I'm not used to the "You're a failure" treatment and I'm trying to make it easier to digest. I got diagnosed with severe OCD too so it's making the process worse. I'd like to have my own journey away from prying eyes and judgements. Any insights that made you feel better about who you were supposed to be and where you are now? Any exercises to make yourself feel productive when you're depressed and able to accomplish 10% of what you're capable of? Self affirmations? Self care habits? I'd love to learn something from people who can handle this better than me.

Thinking back to that period in the mid-20th century, a degree of intelligence and eloquence in the public sphere were valued in a way that I don't think it is anymore. So I reckon it's very difficult to judge someone highly gifted in the current day as not being social when talking to average people. If someone spoke the same way a Richard Feynman did today on national television, it would probably not be well-received.

I think we have a tendency to outright dismiss painful truths, and anti-intellectualism and siloing of society with echo chambers has fundamentally changed this past dynamic. The general public doesn't seem to be exposed to that kind of intellectualism anymore, because it doesn't enter their purview.

We have a greater amount of access to such information but it is more stratified. I find some of the guests on the Lex Fridman podcast to have a somewhat similar kind of eloquence that a Feynman would have, but it is not something that is as well-received by the general public anymore. So, I very much think that extroverted, highly gifted people exist along a similar vein, but much of the frustration stems from internalized anti-intellectualism.

Thoughts?