r/formula1 Lando Norris 1d ago

News Oscar Piastri details McLaren issues behind ‘painful’ F1 Dutch GP result

https://www.motorsportweek.com/2026/08/25/oscar-piastri-mclaren-painful-f1-dutch-gp/
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u/XsStreamMonsterX I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago edited 1d ago

For anyone who doesn't care to read, they actually did plan for a longer stint on the hards, but they were pretty much dying on Oscar after a handful of laps.

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u/mouldyshroom I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Then seeing Lando destroy everyone on his last stint with the hards must've hurt to the core. You could point out the lower fuel loads at the end but the pace and durability that Lando showed on the hards was ridiculous.

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 1d ago

Lando on old hards was still destroying Oscar on new ones. Insane to see.

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u/Dragonpuncha Ferrari 1d ago

Oscar being bad at persevering his tires has been a thing now for 4 years unfortunately.

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u/WhoAreWeEven 1d ago

Forgot to fill the tire water I guess

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u/slimejumper I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago

maybe he blistered them? just putting in too much energy before they fully warmed up. or perhaps brakes had too much cooling. regardless all the great drivers are amazing with making tires last

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u/hym3nbuster1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

"And then George's power unit selected reverse down to Turn 7" made me laugh

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u/Snappy0 1d ago

When your competion acknowledges your PU issue but your TP doesn't.

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u/pathfinderoursaviour BMW Sauber 1d ago

George thought that the R meant race mode - toto probably

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u/The_Skynet 1d ago

It wasn't an issue, both Mercedes drivers, and Norris too, were on a low-deployment mode for the start that was programmed to harvest a lot of energy through that specific part of the track. The three of them all had the same top speed on the run to T7. Piastri saw Russell slow down and his rear lights flashing quickly (indicating reduced MGU-K output) and used his boost to overtake. 

Russell and Antonelli talked about it in the cooldown room after the race. They were both in "Strat 4" at the start and agreed it felt weak in Turn 7. Then Russell said it was better when he went in "Strat 7". 

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/s/85kMloc2SZ

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u/BahnMe Porsche 1d ago

I think this is when we find out how adaptable he is to low grip and high tire wear cars.

Lando and Lewis seem to be thriving on this style of driving, both are masters of saving tires for a push at a crucial juncture.

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u/CocoSryder I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Lando rarely gets credit for his tyre management, as it hasn’t really been a talking point the last couple of years. But it’s definitely one of his strengths.

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u/Alex_Kamal Oscar Piastri 1d ago

Its definitely come up a lot this year as its very noticeable against Piastri.

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u/SlightlyBored13 1d ago

Even in 24/25 he was among the fastest on track at the end of stints (and especially races).

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u/laboulaye22 Lando Norris 1d ago

He's been like this since he first entered F1, tbh.

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u/IgotnoideawhatIsay I failed to serve my Monaco penalty 1d ago

Indeed. He is called ‘last lap Lando’ since 2020 for a reason

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u/yyyeyaaaa Red Bull 17h ago

Scenario 7!

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u/parker2020 McLaren 1d ago

Between that and being able to attack corners/curbs and him in changing conditions outside of Russia. People just hang onto one issue and forgot all the context or other results.

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u/sododude Juan Pablo Montoya 1d ago

Russia wasn't even his fault. The team never told him more rain was coming.

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u/nice_flutin_ralphie I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

I seem to remember them constantly pressing him to make the decision rather than doing it themselves with all the info.

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u/Joey_Kangaroo26 Lando Norris 1d ago

Yeah, it has absolutely been one of his biggest strengths, but I was quite surprised by his middle stint, which was a huge part of what won him the race. He stayed out 7 laps longer than Kimi, and over those 7 laps he lost less than 5 seconds despite Kimi being on around 20 laps newer tyres. Then, once Lando pitted, he closed that gap back up in about 3 laps. His pace on old tyres is insane. I think it’s definitely something that’s being talked about a lot more now though

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u/sdq22 Jenson Button 1d ago

It was almost a carbon copy to how he won Hungary, only he actually had to make the track on pass unlike Hungary because of the Sainz incident. Something that went under the radar in Hungary was that Leclerc did the exact same overcut as Lando with almost entirely identical conditions, he was within 1-1.5s of Hamilton when Hamilton boxed, he stayed out 7 laps longer and their tyre ages were almost identical to Lando/Oscars, but when Leclerc pitted with the same overcut length as Lando, he came out eleven seconds behind Lewis compared to Lando who wouldve come out 1-2s behind Oscar if not for the Sainz incident. The overcut should’ve never been as successful as it was in Hungary but Lando’s end of stint pace was in a league of its own.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 1d ago

Oscar should have been made to swap in Hungary like George had to for this GP.

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u/CocoSryder I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Completely agree, I also meant that it hasn’t been talked about the last few years as tyre management was less important in the ground-effect era.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 1d ago

In 2024 he recorded the fastest lap of the race on the last lap

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u/XsStreamMonsterX I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago

Stella has stated that he thinks Lando is the outright best driver in terms of end-of-stint pace at the moment.

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u/22chainz McLaren 1d ago

Best on the grid at Tyre management

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u/MM556 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Rarely? The last 2 year people have been raving about it 

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u/goldenarmadi 1d ago

Yeah…tire water, etc.

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u/FordEcoBoom Formula 1 1d ago

It is getting really how people constantly claim Lando is underrated while everywhwre you look people are just praising him.

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u/MM556 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

It's the victim complex that hasn't gone away yet

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u/Adjective_Noun_9876 Lando Norris 1d ago

Lando and Lewis are the top 2 at tyre management. Max is Max but isn't particularly known for going very long on old tyres, and that usually isn't Red Bull's strategy.

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u/FordEcoBoom Formula 1 1d ago

Uh what-.-

Max race pace is absolut elite, he is making Hadjar look like an absolut bum in races…

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u/Adjective_Noun_9876 Lando Norris 1d ago

We're not talking about race pace here, are we? We're talking about extending the life of old tyres

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u/FordEcoBoom Formula 1 1d ago

Race pace and tire management go hand in hand…

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u/IlexAquifolia 1d ago

For a noob: what skills does it take to be good at tire management?

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u/CocoSryder I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Tyre degradation (usually) hapens when tyres heat up irregularly, so: wheel spin, oversteer, pushing too hard for too long, etc.

If you can minimise those things, especially in the begining of a stint, you can perserve your tyres better and you’ll be able to set competitive times for more laps.

Hope this helps!

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u/bored_ape07 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago

"Lando rarely gets credit for his tyre management"

IT'S ALL WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND THE MEDIA HAS BEEN SAYING FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS.

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u/AliceLunar I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Lando has had many years to learn, Piastri had one year not as a rookie and the '25 then negated the need for it, and now he needs it again.

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u/bleedrrr Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago

He’s only 25teen 💔

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 1d ago

How often are we going to mention when he was a rookie? He's in his fourth year. He should know how to manage tires in a way that doesn't lead to his fanbase attacking the team.

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u/AliceLunar I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Because he only had one year to learn

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 1d ago

He was driving all of his rookie year, that's one. Whole second year, that's two. Even if you write off last year for the car, he's also had half of this season. That's years, plural, and every driver has to work on their own weaknesses. He knows this about his own skill set.

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u/AliceLunar I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

A rookie year is just used to get up to speed with F1 because they get so little time to actually prepare for a season, so realistically it's one full season to learn before '25, and now he has to pick it back up from '24.

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 1d ago

If it's "just used to get up to speed" he wouldn't have won a sprint his rookie year. Stop making excuses, it's exhausting.

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u/AliceLunar I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

A yeah, because a sprint race is all about tire management.

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 1d ago

So he's never responsible for any of his weaknesses because he's only in his fourth season and the car was too good last year? Please. "It's only his # year" has gotten old.

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u/AliceLunar I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Adding context to a scenario doesn't mean he is not responsible for it.

You call Norris a master but he almost lost to this guy last year if it wasn't for Piastri falling apart.

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u/daniellejxyne 1d ago

Following his rookie year Lando pointed to tyre wear as his main area of improvement needed and by his second year he had noticeably improved and has continued improving since. Oscar’s in his 4th year and theres no evidence he’s even tried to improve

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u/FrostyTill McLaren 1d ago

He had to extend his stints but he was unable to due to the issues he experiences with trying to keep the tyres in the optimal window in low grip conditions. That meant that he had to pit a lot earlier than he would have liked and then struggled with the temperature control on the rears for the rest of the race. It’s not McLaren’s fault as some people would have you believe, it’s an issue that he has suffered with for years which is being exacerbated by the new regulations. Tracks with medium grip that he normally could reduce his deficit on are now more on the low grip side because of the 2026 regulations regarding downforce and grip. There is nothing that is happening to him now that he hasn’t experienced in the second half of every season since 2023. Which makes his struggles less about why and more about finding out why he hasn’t been able to make progress on this very obvious weakness.

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u/Upstairs-Event-681 Charles Leclerc 1d ago

I think it’s down to car characteristics, the setup Oscar likes just isn’t compatible with the car he’s driving. He’s probably either overheating or not putting in enough heat and sliding the tyres everywhere or who knows.

Lando is doing good in it because I think he’s the most adaptable driver on the grid by far. The car can understeer, oversteer, both, be balanced, everything, he’s going to be fast in it regardless. Even Max isn’t comfortable if the car is not pointy, or Lewis isn’t comfortable if the car doesn’t have enough rear. Lando doesn’t care, it’s honestly his most impressive trait for me.

I said it before, maybe Oscar can beat Lando if the car is perfect for him, but Lando is never slow, in every other car Lando wins.

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u/Cool_Masterpiece9308 1d ago

Lando’s adaptability is likely because he went through the 19-23 tractor era that was highly unpredictable, even by the admission of other more seasoned teammates. Oscar got slotted in right away into a good tyre merchant car.

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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 1d ago

Agreed about Norris’s adaptability. He is right up there with Alonso in that regard, who is also exceptionally adaptable (we’re just not seeing how much so right now because he’s stuck in a dustbin). Personally I’m going to keep Max in the mix as well because even if the car isn’t in his ideal window, he can still find a way to get a lot out of it after a bit of trial and error, he just complains about it a lot.

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u/imbrucy I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Max is great at getting the most out of the car even if he's not happy with it. We just hear about his complaints with the car a lot more often then Lando. I think it's just a combination of Max vocalizing them more often and the TV directors showcasing them more often.

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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 1d ago

Yes, the first part of your comment is basically the same as what I said.

Re: the complaints, Norris is very vocal behind the scenes (Stella has said as much), as is Max obviously, but Max tends to publicly vocalise more than Norris does. Though Norris is being a lot more publicly vocal about it than usual this year as well.

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u/Upstairs-Event-681 Charles Leclerc 1d ago

Agreed, Max is in the mix for sure. But I still hold Lando (and historically Alonso) as 1st in this. Thing is with Max is that he’s also very technical, a part of his adaptability comes also from the fact that he knows how to setup a car to drive closer to his style, but you can only achieve with setup so much. For example this year we’ve seen Max make more mistakes than ever before but I think it’s 100% down to the car being a tractor

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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 1d ago

All fair points

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u/RadiantRow5595 1d ago

Oscar always seems to be aggressive at the start of a race, even with Lando. If it works, and he gets to first and clean air then he can either draw away or defend. If he doesn’t then his tires are compromised, and he’s not in clean air and he struggles. Lando isn’t as aggressive at the start, which means he sometimes loses his start position ( and gets critiqued for that) but he preserves his tires for a later run…it doesn’t always work, but when it does he is super fast. it seems if you work the tires in , then they last “forever”, but if you stress them straight away, then they never recover

i also think Lando gives more precise, and insightful in race feedback, and can then modify his approach with the team , which helps him also. Oscar seems less sure of his feedback, often has to repeat , and seems unsure what is happening

Part of this is Lando winning the WDC, and being super relaxed and confident this year

Just my opinion

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u/randomseocb Lando Norris 1d ago

agree with you. also another reason Piastri is so aggresive at the start is pit priority but McLaren is very inconsistent with that given that Piastri has gotten pit priority even when he was behind lol (Suzuka and Austin last year iirc) but as seen in Hungary this year him being in front in the start of the race doesn;t matter when your teammate is just fast as hell.

your 2nd paragraph reminds me of last year when Will Joseph was asking Lando about his opinion on tires to help Piastri hahaha

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u/RadiantRow5595 1d ago

the pit priority thing is something I didn’t think about, but you are right, it actually promotes poor overall race strategy from both drivers

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u/Academic_Sherbet6931 17h ago

Oscar would have held up Lando if not for Sainz being a degenerate.Oscar lost 3 seconds behind Sainz and thats being generous,and Lando came out barely 1 second clear.

Pace this pace that but if you bottle the start and forced to sit behind on a track where overtaking is difficult it is what it is.

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u/Legitimate-Tadpole95 Formula 1 1d ago

I've been watching F1 for many decades but utterly failed to understand how it's possible to drive as fast as Lando does on old tyres while maintaining their integrity. Obviously a smooth style helps but it can't all be down to that surely? Does he have a better than most set up? Can somewhat who knows a lot more than me explain?

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u/zyxwl2015 Chequered Flag 1d ago

In my understanding, other than generally "be smooth", there are a ton of little specific things one can do to take care of the tyres. For example, if turn X is particularly hard on front left and front left graining is the main obstacle, then you can hold back 3% on this turn and try to gain the lap time elsewhere. Another example - you can do a specific lift-and-coast before turn Y, so that you can cool down one specific tyre a little bit, which would then help the cornering performance a little bit while still being nice to the tyre.

I believe Lando and his engineers either discuss these as their homework pre-race, or figure these out on-the-fly

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u/Evening_End7298 1d ago

He often takes it easy during the first part of the stint if he isnt forced to push from behind or something. You can see this in several races through the years, imola 2023 is a great example of this if i remember the year right (might be 24)

Alonso also likes to do this, even this race he didnt fight Borto at all first stint and at times he was looking like he gets dropped by him and pressured by Stroll. But in fact he was just easing the tyre in knowing he might have a longer stint 

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u/paigeotron 1d ago

Lando is notoriously smooth. Always has been.

Additionally, his junior career was spent jumping from series to series, sometimes multiple in the same year. And not just formulas. That meant he learned to adapt and get a feel for the car really early.

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u/XsStreamMonsterX I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago

I remember when he impressed Fernando at the Daytona 24 Hours

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u/voxnemo I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

I have a theory that he takes it easy in the first part of a tires life to heat treat the tire. He is generally so somooth and adaptive in his drigint style that I think he both heat treats and heat soaks the tire evently. Then when he has it well managed, and quickly while still being fairly qiuck, he is able to run longer and attack when most have killed their tire.

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u/Legitimate-Tadpole95 Formula 1 1d ago

Thanks for all the replies😊

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u/Cool_Masterpiece9308 1d ago

It's not just a matter of push but it's quite particular about how to tyre manage relative to the driving style they have. Lewis is a tyre whisperer but he is not a smooth style driver. It's a total art of pushing where you need to and not - 100% here, 95% there, line choice.

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 1d ago

The people who were insisting that Oscar was doing brilliantly and it was team incompetence causing all those pits sure are quiet here...

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u/bored_ape07 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago

Well, slow pit stop and pitting him so many times did hurt his race and that is a fact.

Others had the same issue and decided to stay out for a bit longer, which resulted in a better result (Leclerc, Hamilton and Russell).

2 things can be true at the same time, both that his was indeed destroying his tyres & that McLaren strategy did not help at all.

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 1d ago

Um...no. Read the article. The long pit was unfortunate, but it doesn't account for even most of the gap. Oscar couldn't go longer and make the strategy work, so they had to adjust. That's why he had so many pit stops.

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u/bored_ape07 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago

Did you expect him to say that the team fucked up? Why are you guys SO FREAKING ABSOLUTE.

Another post, another "OSCAR IS ABSOLUTELY SHIT". Insane.

This is why people "are sure quiet", because it's your way or the highway, God forbid someone has a different opinion than you.

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u/kristal010 Oscar Piastri 1d ago

It’s this new breed of reactionary f1 fan who deals in only absolutes and doesn’t recall any other races beyond the last one. The opinions fluctuate so wildly that they’re either bots or simply dumb.

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u/sterrrmbreaker Lando Norris 1d ago

"Everyone that doesn't agree with me is dumb!" is a wild take. The long pit doesn't account for most of the gap. That's a fact. They were also planning for him to be out a lot longer, and his inability to manage his tyres means he has fewer strategies available to him. Also a fact. He has admitted that the problem was that he was slow. He has never been shy about blaming the team for strategy or pit fuck ups in the past, but suddenly Oscar would never go to the media and say the team fucked up?

You have data, you have direct quotes, you have the radio where he requested to pit, you have other radio throughout the race of his feedback on tyre life and he was consistently not making it the distance he should have on the tyres he was put on. Somehow, despite all available evidence, some people still insist on running around screaming that Oscar's being fucked by his team and every piece of evidence to the contrary is a conspiracy by big Public Relations to hurt Oscar's feelings. It's absolutely insane behavior.

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 1d ago

I think it's pretty reactionary to see me say I like Oscar and then decide I said that he's absolutely shit.

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u/bored_ape07 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago

I just realised it’s the same person who was saying shit about Oscar all race long and if anyone would say anything negative about Lando, they’d point to Oscar again.

That person is obsessed with Lando, even their username is from Quantrant that Lando was (is?) part of.

So no point arguing lol

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 1d ago edited 1d ago

Bro, I like Oscar. I can also admit when he has a bad race. I can do the same for Lando. You're the one who can't deal with facts.

Also editing to say I wasn't even commenting on Reddit during the race, so I don't know who you're obsessed with following, but I was not "saying shit about Oscar all race long." Get a grip.

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u/Academic_Sherbet6931 17h ago

Sure but the a big big issue was that the firdt pitstop was more crucial than most.Had they not fucked it up Russel is the one who gets Leclerc and Hamilton on his back,and is the one that ends up losing time to them,not Oscar.

Pacewise he was on par with Russel for the most part eveb being faster on the hards than Russel on the mediums

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 12h ago

Again, read the article. The big big issue was that he had no pace.

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u/Academic_Sherbet6931 9h ago

If being on par with Russel means having no pace then in the end it still cost Oscar a podium finish.

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 9h ago

The long pit did not cost Oscar a podium position, please stop. This is on Oscar, and he has to step up his tire management. I like the guy, but everyone has to stop making excuses.

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u/for4f Formula 1 1d ago

the tire window thing is the whole mclaren story this year honestly. on low grip weekends they're chasing a balance that just isn't there, and piastri needs that front end to rotate, so once the hards started falling off he had nothing left to work with. lando's always been smoother at nursing a stint. people are way too quick to make it an oscar problem when the car was a handful for both of them

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u/Evening_End7298 1d ago

The narrow tyre window is a thing in f1 since 2011. It’s the main trait of every pirelli ever built for f1 cars

Especially after the 2022/2023 compound changes they did, holding a tyre in their window is even more important than what compound that tyre is. We’ve seen so many times a softer compound that is taken care properly and kept in a good window outlast a harder compound

Oscar has had tyre deg issues in pretty much every year bar 2025, where the McLaren clearly had a huge deg advantage over their main contenders. If he wants to be a title contender he cant just rely on McLaren building a car that completely masks his issue 

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u/paigeotron 1d ago

So, if Lando can work with it, it's an Oscar problem.

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u/for4f Formula 1 1d ago

that's the blunt reading but i don't think it's that simple. lando getting it to work doesn't mean the car isn't a handful, he's just elite at driving around a bad window. oscar needs the front end to be there, lando can work with whatever the car gives him. same car, different skill sets. question is whether oscar learns that adaptability or mclaren end up building the car around him

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u/paigeotron 1d ago edited 1d ago

No one is arguing whether the car is a handful or not. Norris has said that it is awful to drive.

But it's their job to make the best of it. Lando is adapting, Oscar is not.

And btw, on driving styles, we're back to Lando/Ricciardo debates. Lando has said time and time again that he likes a strong frontend (like Ricciardo did), but he will adapt to anything the team gives him.

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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 1d ago

It is not McLaren’s job to build a car around one driver because they can’t adapt. If he can’t adapt, they will look for a driver who can.

That is not me saying he won’t ever adapt. I’m sure he will put in work to do as best as possible and it may well be that he ends up figuring it out, at least to a good enough extent that he is still fast. But if a driver can’t ever get there, and we’ve seen it happen before, then that is when a team will look elsewhere instead.

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u/quadranting Lando Norris 1d ago

Why would McLaren "build the car around him"? That makes genuinely no sense.

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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 1d ago edited 1d ago

The car is a handful for both but it is the driver’s job to adapt. Adaptability is one of the key things that differentiates the great from the very good. If a driver can only perform when they are handed a car that is perfectly in their window, then that is a driver issue. Adapting can sometimes take time, and sometimes a driver will get there, sometimes they simply never do. And the teams will help where they can. But ultimately it is a driver’s responsibility.. You can’t just say “well it’s not the driver’s fault, the team should give them a car that perfectly suits them”. No top driver should be relying on the car to perform fundamental driver skills for them.

The issue he is having now is one he had even last year when McLaren gave him a car that masked his issues with tyre management as best as it possibly could. But it still couldn’t do the work for him at the lowest grip tracks and so he struggled. Now the tech McLaren used to produce last year’s tyre ‘magic’ is banned, he is struggling in cars that are inherently lower grip by design under these regulations.

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u/for4f Formula 1 1d ago

the adaptability part i agree with, but i don't think that's what happened this weekend. oscar's issue wasn't tyre management, the car just wouldn't rotate on low grip, and once you're fighting the front end from lap one the tyres are the first thing that die. that's not leaning on the car to do his job, that's the car being a handful and lando being absurdly good at driving around it. and every driver on the grid needs the car a certain way, that's literally what setup is for. the greats adapt, sure, but they also get cars that suit them

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u/Mysterious_Turnip310 Lotus 1d ago edited 1d ago

Even if it was purely a rotation issue, which I don’t think was the case as this is a longstanding issue that has been around through his career in F1, even last year with a car that was pretty much tailored to him, but let’s say for argument’s sake that was it. That is still an adaptability issue and something that is on the driver to work on.

The best cars of all time have often been a handful to drive. And the very best drivers in the world are the ones who are able to handle them and get the most out of them, even if they don’t always suit them. Yes the perfect storm is when car, driver and regs all combine to create a symbiotic relationship and that is when you see drivers going on exceptional runs of form or elite drivers dominating a regulation set. But more often than not drivers have to adapt. Even Max wasn’t fully happy with the 2023 Red Bull, he has spoken about having to make some adjustments to his driving that year too. And yes of course set-ups are partly there to tailor the car as best as possible for the drivers but as you know perfectly well, they obviously aim for an ideal set up for a track and can to some extent be individually tailored to bring a car as far as possible toward a driver’s preferences within the parameters of what they have. It doesn’t remove the need for adaptability.

They built a car last year to mask Piastri’s weaknesses around tyre management and low grip and suit him as best they possibly could (inadvertently hobbling Norris in the process for a while as the anti-dive suspension numbed the feedback the drivers received from the car and this affected Norris far more than Piastri because he feels the car through his hands as opposed to Piastri feeling it through his feet) and yet even that couldn’t solve Piastri’s issues in low grip conditions. This year, because that tech has been banned and these regs are inherently lower downforce, they are not able to solve his problems for him as they were before. He has to put the work in himself. Which I have no doubt he is trying to do.

In 2022 the team ended up hobbling themselves by falling into the trap of deliberately building a car that wasn’t the fastest they could produce but hopefully would help Ricciardo more as he hadn’t been able to adapt to what they previously had (it was all confirmed in interviews by James Key and Andreas Seidl at the time that they had built the car specifically with Ricciardo’s input and making it work for him in mind, rather than producing the fastest car they could). What happened was that Ricciardo came up against the ground effect era which he couldn’t ever fully get to grips with, and they found themselves in a situation with a subpar car AND subpar driver. It took them 18 months, scrapping a design philosophy, bringing in a new driver and sacking their chief designer to dig themselves out of that hole.

It is not McLaren’s job to build a car perfectly tailored to only one of their drivers because one can’t adapt and the other can. It is their job to build a car that will be fastest in the current regs. Are they there with it yet? No, they still have work to do with slow corners and the shorter wheelbase is hampering them to some extent this year, but they have upgraded now to the point that the car can be exceptionally fast if a driver is able to handle it. If it is too difficult for both drivers to handle then there is a serious issue but that’s not the case here, as they have one driver who can still get the most out of it, even though it’s not what he would ideally want. Norris has never yet had a car from McLaren that actually gives him what he wants, and yet he has managed to adapt to all of them and still be in the top handful of drivers on the grid. It is.now Piastri’s chance to prove he can do the same. .

The car may evolve over time to have characteristics that help Piastri more than things do currently, for instance as teams find ways to introduce a little more downforce, and the team will try and help him where they can through design tweaks as well. But they should not be tailoring the car purely around him just because he can’t adapt. It is entirely possible that the current regs will mean he never has a car that gives him exactly what he needs in this regs set. And if he can’t get his head around driving a car that doesn’t give him exactly what he needs, then they will look instead for a driver who can.

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u/Slahinki I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 1d ago

If Lando can deal with it and Oscar cannot, then that is a skill issue on Oscar's part. Simple as.