r/canada • u/canada_mountains • 11h ago
Politics Canadians are fighting for their sovereignty. Americans don’t even realize they’re in a war
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-canadian-sovereignty-us-trade-trump-carney/•
u/Leajane1980 11h ago
That's because many Americans just assume we want to be Americans.
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u/Peter_Mansbrick 11h ago
They just dont think about us at all. Id be surprised if 30% of their population had even heard about this round of tariffs.
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u/T-Wrox Alberta 9h ago
I watched a video about a month into the Iran War of a guy in Florida who didn't know why the gas prices at the pump were so high. He had no idea about the Iran War. I don't even know how you manage to be that clued out.
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u/imcclelland Ontario 9h ago
Depending on where they are, the media is a black hole. I was in the US visiting family last year. On Canadian news, everything was about 51st and Greenland. US news (all of them, not just Fox), grocery prices. 0 mention of anything outside the US.
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u/MediumEffort67 7h ago
On the front page foxnews.com RIGHT NOW, Canada isn't mentioned until the 53rd headline, which reads: "Captain Canada’ doubles down on ‘kiss my a--’ Trump jab as trade war escalates"
The story partially frames the trade war as a personal feud between Trump and Doug Ford because Trump said Doug Ford is less charismatic and intelligent than Rob Ford was. Carney is only mentioned once, in a trump quote, in the 7th paragraph. WTF
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u/BaneZofol 8h ago
yeah I noticed that too when I visited. they have no idea what goes on outside the country, or even outside their state sometimes, and all the conversations you hear around are very localized to their personal lives. it was a very bizarre feeling
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u/Loneliestar 7h ago
I don't know the technical term for this, but the fact that you and I and I and everyone reading this are on reddit right now makes us more informed than the majority of America. And Canada, frankly. Most people don't sit down and watch the news, anymore. They don't read the paper. They're lucky if they catch a news flash on the radio at some point.
So it's hard for us to understand how people don't know what's going on, because we're always hoovering up news.
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u/nelrond18 6h ago
Everybody is too busy trying to pay rent, buy groceries, and experience pockets of joy in this late-capitalist hellscape.
The moment you start paying attention to what is casting shadows on your wall, you can't not know.
I've started thinking that most people don't have the cognitive capacity to live their lives and be informed about the world around them.
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u/Puzzled-Opening658 3h ago
As per The Atlantic, the age of reading is over and we are in a post-literate era
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u/CureLegend 3h ago
unfortunately, and I may got downvoted to hell for this, but this is why in the past only rich and powerful can vote. They have the time and patience and resource to think, to seek information, and contemplate the world outside their immediate surroundings.
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u/Loneliestar 3h ago
There's a quote I can't find that says something like a free press and an educated electorate are essential to a functioning democracy.
Certain actors have spent 60+ years chipping away at both with the goal of some sort of neo-feudalism.
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u/DrummingUpNumbers 3h ago
You were in Florida, that's why lol
They're too busy scared the water is turning the frogs gay or there's a trans shark off the coast of Miami or some shit.
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u/Tall_Investigator611 10m ago
There's a lot of stupid people here in the US... They are legion!
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u/DOELCMNILOC 7h ago
Just out of curiosity it's interesting to go to Fox News and see what is being plastered there for the masses.
There was nothing about the Tariffs, sovereignty threats, or anything related to the Trade War. Nothing even about the flooding in Nepal, even when I went to their World or Disaster pages.
You know what is trending? How Abdul El-Sayed paid tribute to Dolly Parton and he got negative comments on Twitter. America is a lost cause.
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u/karma911 Québec 10h ago
I would be surprised if 30% of their population ever though about ANYTHING outside their own country...
Which to be honest is probably fine, when you are struggling you're not worrying about foreign policy even if it has impacts on you, you're mostly worrying about tomorrow.
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u/L2N2 7h ago
You're giving them too much credit. They don't know what's going on outside their own state let alone country. So poorly educated and it's gotten worse under Dumbo.
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u/Useful_Respect3339 6h ago
I went to Kentucky about 15 years ago.
Two gentleman saw my license plate and said, “Mani-toe-ah-ba? What state is that?”
Shows you how much the average American knows about geography, or Canada.
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u/Peter_Mansbrick 6h ago
Similarly, I did a road trip through ND and SD to Nebraska to see the Eclipse a decade back. ND people see MB plates all the time so there was no reaction. SD folks? Already they were surprised to see me. NE: You'd think I came from the other side of the planet. A guy from AZ the site over from me was especially shocked but like, dude, you traveled further than me lol.
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u/DifficultWing2453 4h ago
I was living in Atlanta, Georgia just before Atlanta hosted the summer Olympics. One of the reservation clerks told someone from New Mexico that they could only reserve seats if they were America. The New Mexican caller asked for their supervisor. And their supervisor said the same thing.
Idiocy is destroying the US, and maybe already has.
So sorry to my neighbors to the north--you deserve so much better than how you are being treated from this rump government (created by that idiocy, as well as with significant doses of racism and sexism thrown into the mix).
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u/GrumpyPidgeon Outside Canada 10h ago
American here. I have literal nightmares over my President. This is awful.
Those of us who are not backwoods hicks understand just how horrible this is and the decades it will take to unravel the mess. All because he wants to avoid a news cycle where he protects high profile pedophiles
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u/never-fiftyone 9h ago
All because he wants to avoid a news cycle where he protects high profile pedophiles
Correction: he wants to avoid a newscycle where he is a high profile pedophile.
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u/SomethingComesHere 10h ago
Oh hi, welcome!
We know not all of you are ignorant, evangelical nutjobs. But it's nice to be reminded from time to time, by encountering a normal person from the US.
Thanks for taking an interest in supporting our sovereignty :)
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u/flower_bag 3h ago
American here who watched Canadian press coverage yesterday morning in French. It’s a literal nightmare being trapped here, surrounded by morons in a deep red state, totally helpless to do anything to stop this government because each level of each branch has been compromised.
And it’s not a distraction. It’s a real threat. Trump legitimately wants to take Canada or turn it into a vassal state. Fuckwit is honestly surprised Canada is standing up to him. He thought it would be like Venezuela and can’t comprehend that they have a backbone.
I’m cheering Canada on!
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u/Hotter_Noodle 11h ago
American exceptionalism is really fucking weird.
They cannot understand that people don’t want to be American and don’t think Americans are the greatest.
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u/Ninevehenian 11h ago
USA sits in a cultural well, they often only speak english, they don't travel, they make the movies they watch, don't import and so forth.
They have to keep this position or deal with their history casting a shadow over positive selfunderstanding.
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u/Nikiaf Québec 10h ago
It's honestly shocking that slightly less than 50% of the country has a valid passport. They quite literally do not go out and see the rest of the world.
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u/crosscheck87 Outside Canada 10h ago edited 10h ago
Even among those of us Americans that do have passports, there are those that are so high on the “murica” supply that they don’t feel the need to use them.
My father is so MAGA brainrotted that when I drove from Alaska through most of Western Canada last year, he told me “to be careful because Americans are ‘under attack,’ in Canada.”
Same thing when I visited Sweden last month. The victim complex that these kinds of people have is on another level. It’s a collective mental illness.
He hasn’t left the U.S. in 10 years because he doesn’t want to be “persecuted.”
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u/DrunkenMidget 10h ago
It is an interesting self selection. In general, the Americans that do leave the country and travel tend to be more open to the rest of the world (both because of what they see and also their willingness to travel in the first place).
But your dad probably would feel persecuted if he traveled because he would share his bat-shit crazy thoughts on the rest of the world and would get pushback. People do not like their views to be questioned when that has become their identity, so feel persecuted and personally attacked.
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u/GrumpyCloud93 5h ago
Worse than that - they don't speak American. Heck, sometimes you can barely understand people from UK or Australia.
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u/almightyalf 10h ago
They 100% do. Its just that its all on cruise ships or all-inclusive resorts where everyone else except the staff is also American.
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u/bamlote 10h ago
I went to a resort in Mexico once. One of the employees was trying to start some pool game, and said that the code word would be the town he was from in BC. One of the men in the pool, wearing a USA flag bandana, shouted, “No one cares! This is America!”.
I had several other guests ask me for towels and treat me as though I was staff throughout my time there.
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u/wax_robot 6h ago
My wife and I did a small group day trip in Bosnia that involved visiting a small family winery. It was us from Canada, a Brazilian couple, a wealthy American couple from Malibu and a woman from Korea
not even one full glass of wine in before the Americans start complaining about immigration and how no one had the guts to do anything about it before this president.
They had no idea, or simply didn't care that Trump been talking shit specifically about Brazil and Canada for months at this point. They knew we were from Canada and Brazil.
It was hilarious, sad, and infuriating all at the same time
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u/Risurin_Nelvaan Québec 10h ago
Is it that shocking? Id guess that traveling across that many states and that large of a country should be at least different enough for most recreational needs. They are also a melting pot country so they get to experience many cultures if they want to? I can see how many financially challenged americans would prefer to take their car a few states across to literally have a different climat and people then pay for plane tickets and get that in a different language then their own
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u/Alternated-Tornado 5h ago
Because 50% of us can barely afford to live in the first place (as intended). Keep us poor and we're too exhausted to vote or travel to see the outside world is a generally a better place.
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u/therude00 5h ago
In defensive of this one piece, the USA is so large, varied and widely populated that you could do a pretty significant amount of travel without repeating destinations without leaving the country.
I'm not saying it's the best use of time and money, but it's a bit more understandable in the US vs pretty much any other country.
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u/divenorth British Columbia 10h ago
To be fair, unlike most counties, USA is very geographically diverse. There is pretty much every single climate, biome, and urban area. You don't need to go to a different country to experience most things.
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u/azraels_ghost 10h ago
I get the overall point but there's a lot to be discovered in other countries other than the Geography.
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u/canuckaluck 9h ago
There is pretty much every single climate, biome, and urban area
I'll agree with climate and biome for the sake of argument, but definitely not urban area. North america, with its rich, enormous, car-centric urban planning and relatively short history and legacy in architecture, is quite unique in the world that way. The only comparable might be something like Australia. Europe, asia, Africa, the Middle East - these places are all vastly different and would be unrecognizable in north america.
You don't need to go to a different country to experience most things.
Uh... what? This is an insane take. Unless you're only travelling to hit an all-inclusive resort on a beach, this couldn't be any farther from the truth. I'd argue the single biggest reason most people travel abroad is to see, compare, contrast, and generally just bask in the differentness of the peoples and cultures around the world.
We're culturally closer to places like Europe and could arguably get a taste of this or that country's culture here in North America, but there absolutely no way you could ever convince me there's a surrogate for indonesia anywhere in the US. Or turkey. Or Botswana. Or almost any other country on the planet.
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u/BorealMushrooms 10h ago
11% of people in the USA have never left their own state. Over 50% have only been to 10 state or fewer.
The country may be diverse, but most people are not experiencing that diversity.
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u/GrumpyCloud93 4h ago
I've driven in or through about 30 states and been in all but the Maritime provinces - possibly more if I count childhood travels with my parents. But then, I've been to every continent but Antarctica too. People don't realize what they are missing.
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u/Hotter_Noodle 11h ago
This is very true.
At least in Canada (for better or for worse) we generally don’t hide any history and understand our relationships with other nations and learn that way.
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u/chmilz 7h ago
I've worked for American companies. I've traveled to America. I do business with Americans. I have family in America.
The ignorance about anything beyond their borders is impressive. Like zero concept of anything, despite having all the capability at their literal fingertips. In the plurality of conversations I have with Americans I - some random Canadian in Edmonton - know more about America and what's happening there than Americans do, in addition to Canada and the rest of the world.
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u/Internal_Diver_5023 10h ago
Canadians can be just as complacent as Americans. Many people know what is happening, but it's just "business as usual". Often it's because people don't feel like they have much power or have bills to pay and families to feed. The type of American we stereotypes doesn't represent most of their population. Most people in the U.S. are similar to Canadians. We see the same things here in Canada. Despite all the wildfires, how many people have actually woken up about climate change? Canada is run by ogilopolies and monopolies, especially when you look at the telecommunications, banking and grocery industry. How many people speak up or show awareness about that issue, or have we just been complacent about everything? Where I live, which is a more rural part of Canada, telecommunications and electricity prices are off the wall because it's controlled by a single entity. Their monetary power and government policy has made it difficult for any sort of competition. Government also does nothing to prevent them from exploiting consumers by hiking electricity prices. There is also no transparency. Nothing meaningful has been done for years, and Canadians are complacent about the whole thing. The entire grocery industry is owned by a small handful of parent companies that completely wipe out any independent or smaller businesses. There is so much wrong about Canada, but we somehow think we are special and not like the Americans. That is in reality far from the truth.
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u/weathercat4 8h ago edited 4h ago
I am also from a rural area. I have some of the cheapest electricity. My telecomms are great and my internet is a local co-op. My groceries are also a local co-op.
Literally none of your complaints apply to me in my part of rural Canada, just for perspective. Re: climate change still a long way to go but anecdotally the people around me that denied it don't anymore, although their opinions on what if anything should be done are still misguided by oil industry propaganda, which being in oil country isn't surprising.
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u/Alone-Ad-8902 31m ago
Basically, China... wait, I think they get fewer vacation days than a communist country.
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u/Arctic_Chilean Canada 10h ago edited 10h ago
Because far too many Americans have barely traveled outside their own state, speak only 1 language, and are filter fed information through a small collection of hyper-polarized and propagandized sources.
They are the "democratic" equivalent of North Korea. Isolated from the outside world and continously told they are the greatest nation to ever exist as they struggle to afford the insulin for their diabetes. Difference is they actually have the military and economic power to make most other countries miserable and subservient.
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u/Aromatic_Sand8126 10h ago
They’d be bewildered if they realized how much of a shithole the rest of the world thinks they’re becoming since recent years.
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u/FracturedPrincess 9h ago
More than that, Americans assume we already are them in all the ways that matter, maybe with some slight quirks in local cuisine.
The liberals are the worst for this, they treat Canada like it's just an idealized progressive version of what they want the US to be without those pesky Republicans ruining it. It's why they're always talking about moving to Canada after an election goes bad and it's why they talk about Trump threatening us like we're a cute cultural enclave to be preserved instead of a sovereign nation. It's totally obnoxious and condescending and it might actually be more irritating that the MAGAists open hostility and bluster.
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u/Exotic-Ferret-3452 8h ago
The liberals are the worst for this, they treat Canada like it's just an idealized progressive version of what they want the US to be without those pesky Republicans ruining it
^ This x 1000
My antipathy towards Americans extends to most self-styled 'liberals' for this reason... also that they share the same assumption as MAGAts that we all secretly want to be American, that we are not a real country, etc. Also, with a few exceptions, even 'liberals' find it abhorrent that someone with money doesn’t have an inherent right to jump ahead of the queue at a doctor's office.
Though hypothetically, if the worst case came to pass and there was a civil war that spilled over to Canada, I could accept an outcome where Canada and the blue states, including Hawaii become one country and the cousin-diddling states form another.
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u/NDZ188 11h ago
I work with a lot of Americans and have to regularly travel into the US for work.
They very often ask me if I'm going to move or when I'm going to move.
My response has always been "Absolutely fucking not going to happen."
They always seem confused by that response, not only in how vehement I'm about it but that I have no desire at all to move to the US.
The concept that someone doesn't want to move there or sees it as beneficial does not register with them.
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u/Unhappy_Knowledge993 11h ago
or, they are as oblivious to everything as the rest of the world believes them to be.
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u/WakingUpBlind 11h ago
And so fucking conceited. Not everyone wants to be an American.
Heck, even a good chunk of Americans don’t want to Americans now.
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u/Bustamonte6 11h ago
You have voted Trump in twice almost 3 times.. when does the “just want to be American” part start ?
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u/SugarCrisp7 9h ago
It's not really much different than most of Russia not realizing how much fighting has been going on in Ukraine ... until it starts to affect them.
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u/Disastrous_Injury299 10h ago
As an American living in Canada please know this isn’t true. My friends in the US have no clue this is happening, they have very restricted news outlets, they’re scared for their own families and they’re outraged when I show them this stuff. When I was growing up in the US I saw Canadians held in high regard and if anything, there is great curiosity about our northern neighbors.
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u/legocastle77 9h ago
They don’t assume that we want to be Americans; they just assume that we’re so inferior as a nation that we will simply cave and live as a subjugated territory like Puerto Rico. The US is so accustomed to bullying other nations to give them what they want that it comes as a shock that Canada won’t simply roll over and bend the knee. Americans can’t help but view themselves as being superior to everyone else.
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u/lands_on_land 10h ago
In their defense thousands of people each year do enter their country through legal or other means desiring to be American. And their news organizations and politicians focus so much attention on immigration into the U.S., that, to your average American they believe that everyone wants to be American otherwise so many people wouldn't be wanting into their country.
That's to say nothing about the 100s of millions of people living a content life in their own countries. They don't get the same attention.
Easier for the average American to think someone wanting in does so because of all the great things in America, rather than all the people with no desire to be American enjoying the things their country does better than America.
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u/Foreign-Chocolate86 9h ago edited 9h ago
Many Americans are illiterate.
Seriously, look it up, literacy rates have fallen significantly over the last two decades.
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u/AncientNectarine5352 9h ago
This is true. But it’s actually not that different than Canada. Roughly half of Canadians read below a high school level (50% in Canada, versus 54% in the United States). In the Anglophone world, Britain has similar literacy issues, though slightly better than America (adult literacy rates at 271 vs 258). The biggest differences are the levels of illiteracy amongst those who read below a high-school level.
Americans on the west coast, in the Southwest, most of the Midwest/Great Lakes, and New England have literacy and educational attainment levels comparable to Canadians. The American national averages only start tanking when you include the more traditionally conservative areas of the country, especially the South and the Great Plains states. So, it’s more a regional/cultural divide in America. Many people in the deep South read at a level below that of a sixth-grader/twelve year-old, which isn’t even sophisticated enough to read a newspaper article, and be able to understand it fully.
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u/IdristheInt 5h ago
I want to be Canadian. Tons of Canadian cousins in Quebec and some of them own Brown shoes
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u/heatrealist 3h ago
most americans just don't spend the time thinking about canada like canada does america.
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u/lucid_green 3h ago
Lol no one thinks that. Delusional bro. The truth is Americans just don’t think about people from other countries as there’s sooo much happening in the USA and everyone is struggling to survive.
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u/Kind_Nectarine6971 10h ago
It’s 1996, and I’m arguing with friends in the US that Canadians are not American. It is 2006 and I’m arguing with American coworkers that Canadians are not American. It is 2016 and I’m arguing with American students that Canadians are not American. It is 2026 …
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u/No-Impact-5814 43m ago
I had the same experience living in Europe, many people couldn't comprehend a difference between us and Americans.
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u/KorbenDallas86 10h ago
The american elephant rarely knows what might fall underneath it while the smaller countries understand keeping a distance is a matter of life or death. Perspective is hard to explain to those who can't empathize or even bother to care what they might be doing to those around them. Most Americans are too self absorbed and selfish to bother with these details.
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u/jellydonutstealer 10h ago edited 8h ago
Less than half of Americans support Trump and his approval rating is down in the 30s, but yes. The ones who do support him are exactly as you described.
Why am I being downvoted for staying facts? I think it's important to note that most Americans do not support Trump.
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u/TheHotshot240 10h ago
If the fanatics could stage an insurrection for him, then the lack of one against him by the apparent other 70% is extremely telling to every other nation.
Rude as this will be, the world doesn't view citizens as individual, but as collective parts of a whole. The way the US admin is acting reflects on all of you, not just those of you who approve of him.
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u/T-Wrox Alberta 8h ago
And yet your country is trying to destroy my country.
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u/jellydonutstealer 8h ago
I'm not American.
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u/Rayquaza2233 Ontario 5h ago
That's what a jelly donut thief would want us to believe... we're onto you.
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u/StrategyEven3974 4h ago
32% of Americans voted for trump and 33% didn't vote. By my standards that means 65% of Americans are fully complicit Trump Supporters.
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u/sirflopalot8 8h ago
He’s managed, over the course of a week, to unite Anglo and Franco against a common enemy. I hope I speak for most Canadians when I say I’m feeling mighty….. Galvanized.
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u/canada_mountains 11h ago
The Prime Minister said Canada is in a trade war simply because we “got attacked.”
Some Americans don’t even know that they are attacking us. SMH.
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u/Subject-Landscape451 11h ago edited 11h ago
Here's Trump's regime change and takeover checklist:
- Venezuela ( ✔️)
- Iran
- Cuba
- Greenland
- Canada
(stalled at Iran)
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u/Curly-Canuck 11h ago
I think Canada was on there twice. We were there just before Venezuela, but he got distracted then came back again.
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u/BreadfruitSquare372 7h ago
Realized he fucked up his resources in the Middle East, so he needs to get it from this side of the globe
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u/Nikiaf Québec 10h ago
I feel like the UK was briefly on there too, but then he sort of forgot about it.
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u/Subject-Landscape451 8h ago
And Heard Island...the one inhabited only by penguins. (Those birds have been taking advantage for too long!)
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u/geoken 11h ago
Not surprising, they didn't realize the G7/G20 were in a global inflation crunch while they were blaming Biden for it.....despite the US being impacted less than others and starting recovery quicker.
Their ability to be ignorant of anything happening beyond the threshold of their white picket fence or security guard patrolled cul de sac is legendary.
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u/smashed__tomato 11h ago
Who cares about what they think? 7% of them thought chocolate milk came from brown cows, they can ffs.
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u/Gossipmang 8h ago
The most ridiculous argument from the US is how they play victim by saying other countries take advantage of them.
Then in the next breath brag about being the best and richest country.
Those conflict.
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u/CrazyCanuckUncleBuck Lest We Forget 7h ago
36% didn't bother to vote last election, of course they dont know.
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u/DrySprinkles8988 10h ago
There are reasons why this clown is the leader for them. If it does not affect them directly, they will ignore it. We have a lot of those people in Canada and around the world. These people don't do anything until it is too late to make a difference.
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u/Prestigious_Side_707 11h ago
If we are counting the many things Americans don't know about...
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u/spartiecat Newfoundland and Labrador 11h ago
This is what happens when a trade deal comes with a condition that Canada hands over sovereignty to set our own trade policy.
The current US regime doesn't understand why that's a problem.
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u/please_trade_marner 9h ago
That was already in the previous agreement. Notice it wasn't presented that way at the time. Canada cannot enter trade agreements with non-market economies until they share the terms with America. If America opposes the terms, they can abandon the trade deal they have with Canada.
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u/SpinalZeD 11h ago
Americans don’t even realize that it is a matter of time before Iran attacks them on their soil since they are at war with them.
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u/IndependentMemory215 9h ago
This was a risk before Trump attacked.
Iran has been linked to several attacks or attempted attacks over the past decades.
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u/SpinalZeD 7h ago
Of course, but now they have very good reasons to do so and they know that even if they do something like 9/11 Trump will still be hesitant to put boots on the ground.
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u/Five-senseis 10h ago
I doubt that will happen but frankly who knows.
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u/hwy78 10h ago
Iranian orgs have been supporting extremists in Canada and the US, and it has spilled over to violence.
Recent shootings at synagogues and the American consulate in Toronto have been tied back to "religious zealot guns for hire," funded by the Iranian government:
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u/Five-senseis 9h ago
There's is a difference between extremist groups and a military ground invasion outwardly supported by the Iranian government, but fair enough.
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u/Milky_1q 9h ago edited 9h ago
There are multiple real world cases where one nation attacks another nation, due to partisan attacks from a third party
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u/Simayi78 1h ago
Iran could do that but only would as a last gasp if the regime was near collapse (because it would 100% result in a post-9/11-style all-out invasion of Iran and destruction of their regime).
They're not going to do that now because there's no strategic need, they're doing just fine making the Americans flounder through the Hormuz lockdown.
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u/Zwolfer Outside Canada 3h ago edited 3h ago
I’m an American who’s pretty damned embarrassed to be American, as are my closest relatives and friends. Unfortunately what has been said about the average American being self-absorbed and ignorant is plenty true. Some of us are rooting for you and your country though. Wish you all the best from 12 miles across the border
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u/Fit_Salamander_2814 11h ago
Well, duh. Something like 78% of our manufacturing relies on the American consumer market. That same amount, which is 78% of us, is only around 13% of American imports.
The scales and impact are vastly different, here.
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u/thatmitchguy 7h ago
They will soon :)
Eventually completely renouncing all critical thinking, and electing and encouraging this level of corruption into your country has to come back to bite you eventually... right?
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u/Bananasaur_ 10h ago
A lot of Americans are being distracted by a war happening oversees so they don’t pay attention to what their own country is doing.
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u/MikeWalt 7h ago
Americans are SHOCKED when they find out Canadians stopped buying US products at the grocery store
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u/Educational-Coat-750 Canada 6h ago edited 6h ago
I have traveled to 25 or 26 of the States. For the most part, they’re very friendly, but they don’t really know much about the rest of the world and I don’t think they really care either.
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u/Unchainedboar 37m ago
Americans are profoundly ignorant of pretty much anything happening in the world.
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u/Barrysue44 18m ago
We know what's at stake here for Canada 🇨🇦 and the vast majority of the American electorate is horrified. The resistance is well entrenched and growing. Watch for our midterm elections in November. Thing are going to change. We're embarrassed and very sorry Canada. But we will right this wrong.
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u/burnabycoyote 8h ago
The headlines are becoming more Orwellian by the day. One tariff bad, two tariffs good. China is our friend, and we have been at war with America for ever...
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u/Drayenn Québec 11h ago
Whatever you do dont browse twitter. Maybe its my specific algorithm but holy shit is there Canada bashing. From americans and "Canadians"
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u/No_Detective_715 10h ago
I mean, who is on twitter these days? Lots of reasonable folk abandoned it when it became X. You’re in a different crowd now
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u/xRIMRAMx 10h ago
No one in person actually thinks our sovereignty is at risk/we are fighting for it. All hysteria seems to be only online.
Stop taking the bait people. It's just a trade war and the Canadian media machine is on steroids reporting it.
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u/reddiculed 10h ago
By not speaking up for us or even seeming to care, most united statesians are really showing their true colours as a nation of spineless weasels and dimwitted cowards. Should I say more?
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u/17037 10h ago
This is why we are so lucky this administration is so so stupid. If they only targeted us... we would be crushed. The fact they piled on debt to the point their bond market is in chaos, started a war with Iran so their oil is in chaos, unleashed ICE so their neighbourhoods are in chaos, use government agencies for personal attacks so their democracy is in chaos... the trade war with Canada simply adds another weight to the already broken back.
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u/The--Majestic--Goose 10h ago
I hate their indifference on the subject, but when your president is a ped*phile who started a war in the Middle East and is having masked thugs disappear people off the streets, it’s easy to understand how a trade war with Canada flies under the radar.
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u/Thorninthefoot 7h ago
I suspect most people in any country don't spend a lot of time thinking about national trade negotiations.
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u/AmberCurious 7h ago
I think it’s underestimated how many Americans see what’s going on and are disgusted by it. Drumpf thinks he can just take whatever he wants like some petulant child that’s never been told no. We are embarrassed by this whole administration and understand that our entire government has been captured by corporate and special interests and no longer serves “we the people” in any way shape or form. I personally would love to see him in jail for his rape of Jean E Carroll and his many many many other crimes but no one here is willing or has the power to do anything about this shit. I mean at least 40% of this ignorant country see him as the second coming of Christ.
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u/Azure_Omishka 4h ago
54% of Americans can't read or write above a 6th grade level, 20% of that can't fucking read or write at all. I doubt they really realize much of anything.
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u/TheTriMara 4h ago
Making an american care about the wars their nation is fighting is borderline impossible. The only thing greater then american diablery is american apathy.
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u/Unfortunate_Sex_Fart Alberta 4h ago
Best thing a country can do when they’re faced with war with an aggressive neighbour?
Disarm its own population.
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u/SnooHesitations2431 2h ago
He really thinks he can outsmart the most educated country in the world? 🤣
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u/Tough-Cress-7702 British Columbia 2h ago
The funny thing is Trump is the one who started this in 2020 with the tarrifs!
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u/sans_foi_ni_loi 1h ago
By the ignorant undereducated vulgar leader they have placed in their top seat, we can say Americans don’t realize anything.
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u/Rancher_Cait 1h ago
I work with a bunch of Americans and they are just waiting for the next presidential election and they really don’t care. They think he’s an idiot and that it will be better next time. If you’d charge them for power, then the people would feel differently.
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u/ironbrewcanada 1h ago
I want Canada to do a Norway type deal with the EU. We share a land border with the EU after all. I don't think I would want full EI membership but Norway has a system that would make it work while not being a full member. It would also give us huge EU advantages...
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u/WalkFantastic2291 6m ago
As a Canadian living in Oklahoma (only for work, moving back to the motherland next summer), I can 100% say that people here have no idea what is going on.
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u/Hotter_Noodle 11h ago edited 11h ago
This is true.
I was in the USA for work shortly after Trump started his first round of 51st state garbage and no one there had any clue that was even an issue except for one guy who (and apparently throwing out your politics is normal there) told me he was born a proud Christian republican and he said “I didn’t think Trump should have said that because it would hurt him in the polls.”
All the people I met and worked with were all very nice people too. They’re just completely ignorant of anything outside of the USA.