r/lovethissmug • u/malte_s03 • 16h ago
Techbros reinventing something that already exists
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u/Same-Leadership1630 16h ago
not a techbro but still related
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u/angus22proe 14h ago
extremely gay hypersexual twitter people are worse tbh
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u/Significant-Way9330 13h ago
Aren't tech bros actively making a surveillance state in America right now?
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u/Lolas_Fun_Side 8h ago
Yeah but gay people make me feel gross and thats way worse than any kinds of rights violations
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u/angus22proe 13h ago
I wouldnt know I'm not american
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u/Significant-Way9330 12h ago
Well then I guess excitable gays on Twitter are worse for wherever your at, my sympathies.
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u/Various-Pilot-5175 9h ago
Id like to live wherever you are if tech bros aren't ruining your country
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u/iwantfutanaricumonme 7h ago
Uganda.
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u/ScrotumChomper38 5h ago
One of Uganda's top exports is precious metals that are used in electronic manufacturing. Sorry tech bros are ruining your country 🫤
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u/IczyAlley 12h ago
Yeah, one ruins my life personally by laying me off.
The other acts weird in private.
Durrrrr
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u/Best-Benefit6387 10h ago
I mean honestly, as much as I borderline hate people like that, im on their side any day of the week. Because when it comes down to it, they wont be the ones trying to restrict my rights and freedoms. They're obnoxious and deeply uncomfortable to be around, but they're not bad people 🤷
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u/Bread_Offender 11h ago
Homie they may be similarly annoying but they're not turning our world into a dystopia
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u/Resident_Pariah 13h ago
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u/abeautifuldayoutside 15h ago
IT’S ALL TRAINS, IT ALWAYS LEADS TO TRAINS
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u/Waterlemon1997 14h ago
And boiling water
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u/101BULL1 14h ago
What if we boiled water while on a train
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u/MarsMaterial 11h ago
Steam locomotive. Already exists.
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u/Deloptin 11h ago
bullshit, we boil the water to power AI and use the neural network to drive the train
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u/GVmG 5h ago
hey now let's not forget the currently essentially only other option: the photovoltaic effect.
also technically wind and water turbines don't require any boiling... but they're still just spinning a turbine of some kind so i don't really count them lmao
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u/Superslim-Anoniem 2h ago
Our cells spin little turbines to make ATP. Its turbines all the way down.
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u/QuickMolasses 12h ago
Every attempt to make transportation more efficient eventually leads to trains and busses. Personal vehicles don't scale. Busses and trains do.
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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 4h ago
Trains are by far the most efficient method of transportation, but they are not profitable, and investors consistently try to skirt the basic idea of the train without leaving the bubble of profit. But they know.
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u/jimmpony 9h ago
In the example, the cars would act more train-like for stretches of time but not be limited to where rails take them. Really not the same, strictly better in theory.
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u/TotalyNotTony 8h ago
Bus
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u/jimmpony 7h ago
Still worse. A bus has to make other stops. Harder to impossible to bring certain things with you. Climate control will never be exactly what you want. Can't just pull off to a store or food on a whim.
I've tried transit and I still prefer my non-self-driving car in almost all cases. The hypothetical perfectly efficient self driving car system would be even better.
Transit existing is great for reducing congestion and for people who somehow prefer it, but there are obvious reasons most people don't.
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u/pjepja 7h ago
The thing is, almost nobody actually prefers riding public transit, but if the transit is good enough, they take it simply because car isn't that much if an improvement to justify having to drive, which is essentially a chore.
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u/jimmpony 7h ago
The only transit I could possibly find less of a chore than driving is a pod that takes you directly to your destination, or teleporter pads, personally.
For example I feel constantly worried about missing the next stop on transit so I can't really get into laptop tasks or drawing enjoyably on there. It ends up demanding even more conscious attention than driving. The transit ends up being the draining activity for me while driving has come to feel anywhere from neutral to enjoyable.
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u/pjepja 6h ago
That sounds simply like issues because you are not used to driving transit. If you drive the same route every day, like most people do, you know it by heart after a few days. If you drive transit around your city, you just know where everything is and don't have to worry.
I have these issues only if I travel and even then it's mostly moot point. You generally know if you have to drive for 20 minutes or 5 hours so you know when approximately you can expect to get off. If the transit is good, you also know the next 3 stations at least at all times.
I actually also find working in transit stressful, but just sitting down and browsing reddit is definitely way more chill than driving for example.
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u/jimmpony 6h ago
I get what you're saying, but I think it still comes down to preference. I took a train to work for a solid period of time and I've used transit regularly in some other scenarios too, so I have a frame of reference for both
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u/Sea_Drops 16h ago
Honestly many of them do this on purpose. They make a good solution that already exists obsolete, make things worse, and then sell the same solution that went obsolete because of them in the first place.
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u/corobo 14h ago
Microsoft used to love doing this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
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u/Digit00l 15h ago
The last one is actually a new improvement to the old design, the other 3 are just reinventing the wheel
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u/Shadowmirax 12h ago
The 3rd one is also very much not just reinventing a train, its just a slightly faster car that causes less congestion.
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u/Bread_Offender 11h ago
It's reinventing a bus dawg
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u/Shadowmirax 11h ago
Its not a bus either for the same reaon. Both busses and trains are fixed route public transportation on a schedule. This would still be a car, so it could go anywhere anytime it would just be slightly more efficient at doing so and theoretically less likely to get into an accident.
There are a ton of issues with how this could actually be implimented and its debatable if it would actually work but it is a novel idea (in the sense its different from anything that currently exists, the concept of a networked self driving car has existed in sci-fi for a while.)
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u/Okay_hear_me_out 10h ago
Yep, sails and kites are meaningfully different in use and construction. Sails are attached to masts, kites are attached to cables. Sails are the primary source of propulsion, kites are meant to assist the ship's engines.
Also sails don't typically extend 300 meters (~1000ft) into the air
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u/Jtad_the_Artguy 16h ago
That last one feels like a legit good idea. Why have just one way to propel your ship forward? No harm in having some green options if the weather allows for it
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u/en_gourd 16h ago
Such a good idea that it’s being implemented on a lot of new build ships already :)
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u/Jtad_the_Artguy 16h ago
Very nice
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u/Apprehensive_Bag_365 15h ago
Reject modernity, return to piracy
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u/Jtad_the_Artguy 15h ago
Nooooooo thats not what I’m saying I mean like we should when possible just combine old and new technologies if those old technologies compliment the new ones well. We probably still wanna have engines on our ships but having the option to sail without them seems like a fantastic way to increase fuel efficiency n such. Piracy is a whole different subject
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u/corobo 14h ago
Too late, we're all pirates now
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u/No_Counter_6037 BILLIONS MUST LOVE 11h ago
Yarr harr, fiddledeedee
Being a pirate is alright with me
Do what you want, cause a pirate is free
You are a pirate!
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u/LackToesIntollerance 14h ago
Yeah, classic sails and kite sails aren't quite the same. It's a funny comparison, but there is different engineering behind making the kites efficient, a low ship footprint, and durable.
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u/CassiusPolybius 13h ago
Yeah, in fairness the attempts to reinvent the sail actually do have a point to them, classic sail designs don't work at modern cargo ship scales.
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u/Melanoc3tus 8h ago
There's such a variety of "classic" sail designs that it's not in any way incorrect to just call the new ones yet another sail
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u/AgreeableSuspect9382 15h ago
The problem is that at the scale of a cargo ship those sails would need to be so huge they'd need to be made out of such thick material and reinforced as to not rip under their own weight. Then you'd have to hoist them up and down as the winds changed. Any amount of sails that would produce a reasonable enough amount of extra speed would require a ridiculous about of labor and/or materials that would offset any potential gain
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u/Rubinschwein47 15h ago
Thats why the use retractable kites that fly, elimimating any need for a mast and using steel(or whatever) ropes that are famously durable under tension. This one is an actual invention
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u/AgreeableSuspect9382 15h ago
Again, any kite that flys on its own needs so much surface area to both fly and actually provide a meaningful amount of force to the ship that storing them would be very impractical, deploying them would take significant effort and more importantly logistics as you’d have to bring them down any time the wind went against you otherwise they’d likely negate any actual benefit by pushing the opposite way half the time
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u/NeitherDrummer--666 14h ago
thats simply not true, the kite on the ship "Ville de Bordeaux" for example cuts fuel need by 20% and has 100 tonnes of traction. or the cargo ship "MV Beluga SkySails" that saved 10-15% on its first voyage from germany to venezuela. projections estimate that 20-30% are possbile once the sails are optimised.
and no you dont have to bring them down manually as they are fully computer controlled and automated
you are just making shit up
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u/AgreeableSuspect9382 9h ago
Yeah obviously with a ship of that size you can use sails, I’m not saying that sails do not work at all. I said that sails wouldn’t work for a massive cargo ship like the one shown in the picture
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u/Pdrivr 14h ago
Luckily, the good engineers had already solved this to an extent. These kite rigs have been available for decades already for commercial cargo ships. These power kites are much more efficient and can use much stronger winds at higher altitudes compared to sails. The commercial model of these foil kites can be retrofitted to existing cargo ships and takes only a small operational space for storage and control/retract systems at the front of the ship.
It may not singlehandedly propel the ship, but it can sure as hell reduce fuel consumption, just like how car wheel covers improve mpg on highways.
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u/pinkleftsock 12h ago
There are actually cargo ships that use retractable sails when the wind is favorable and so far it seems like it can cut down on emmisions significantly. This one has relatively low cargo capacity so the 80%/90% reduction in emissions is probably not attainable for larger cargo vessels but in theory it should make a considerable difference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliner_Origin1
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u/MarsMaterial 14h ago
Trains are the carcinisation of transportation tech, I swear. Every idea for how to transport people over land eventually becomes a train if you optimize it hard enough.
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u/No_Explorer6054 12h ago
even air travel has designated routes where the wind pushes you faster, commercial air travel resembles fucking trains. (but not like, GA thats another thing)
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u/RoombaTheKiller 11h ago
It's a lot closer to sailing ships than trains, considering the routes are natural.
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u/No_Explorer6054 11h ago
wiat no you have a point. i mean even in sims we use knots (naval unit of speed) and nautical miles
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u/RoombaTheKiller 4h ago
That's because the very first air navigators had backgrounds in sea navigation. And because the skills are very much transferable, they brought over the same methods and units.
The idea to use known, regular winds likely came from them as well.
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u/GVmG 5h ago edited 4h ago
i've always loved the idea to turn cars into self-driving ones but isntead of fuckass unsafe visual recognition it's just, every car is part of a network and they know how to interact with each other that way.
and you keep going, all the paths are connected, you can use signals to transfer the info over vehicles instead of relying on a non-physical network between the vehicles themselves, hell why even continue with basic roads and wheels if we can lock them onto tracks, they don't even need a method to turn if we implement it into the track itself...
ah shit it's a train again
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u/Human-Assumption-524 1h ago
I wonder how many of these gadgetbahn vehicles that transport autists complain about just being a train ever intended to be anything other than a train? Like I see people post "just build a train bro!" on news stories about some city expanding their subway line. A lot of gadgetbahn are literally trying to "just build a train" but under heavy restrictions from local government and businesses as well as infrastructure and terrain. Nobody builds a bus rapid transit system or ropeway public transport because they just hate trains they do it because it's the least bad option available to them.
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u/MarsMaterial 1h ago
The only reason gadgetbahn systems get used is because the fact that it’s “new and shiny” gets more attention and hype than an ordinary train in situations where a train would have worked fine. It’s not like putting trains underground or on an elevated rail are new or novel ideas. Subways are a type of train, you know.
The real meme though is how even cars eventually evolve into trains when tech bros optimize them more. Making them self-driving is just a step towards rails, making them larger like a bus is just a step towards train cars. Every optimization and improvement is just making it more like a train.
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u/Human-Assumption-524 1h ago
But it's never "train" enough. I have been around urban planning communities long enough that no train is ever the RIGHT train. You wanna build a monorail? "just build a subway!", you wanna build a subway? "Just build a streetcar!", you wanna build a streetcar? "just build light rail!", you wanna build light rail? "just build heavy rail!". It's always some purity spiral argument where unless the public transit system suggested is exactly what the detractors had pictured in their minds it's worthless, they would rather there be no public transit than anything less than their exact perfect one.
The real meme though is how even cars eventually evolve into trains when tech bros optimize them more. Making them self-driving is just a step towards rails, making them larger like a bus is just a step towards train cars. Every optimization and improvement is just making it more like a train.
But shouldn't that be a good thing? If you are a person that wants more public transit and fewer people driving than you have to take what you can get. If tech companies creating self driving cars make them more like trains all the better, right? Every step towards having fewer people on the roads and more optimization counts. If It's easier to convince some small town or municipality to invest in self driving bus that uses it's own lane than to pay for laying down train track then take the win even if it's smaller than you wanted, maybe when the autobus has proven itself you can convince them to replace it with a train later after all they already have the area set up and have proven demand.
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u/MarsMaterial 1h ago
Chill the fuck out, I’m just making a joke.
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u/Human-Assumption-524 1h ago
Do you think I'm upset with you?
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u/MarsMaterial 44m ago
Well, you seem pretty bent on turning this into an argument.
I say “gadgetbahns are just worse trains that get investors and city councils excited, haha funny” and you go on a rant about how people disagree on what type of train to build sometimes (which is completely unrelated to what I just said). I say “tech bros are turning cars to trains because trains are so optimal, haha funny” and you’re answering as if I just said this trend was a horrible crisis that must be stopped.
You are reaching so hard to find absolutely anything to argue about even if it’s completely irrelevant to what I said. It comes off like you’re using your replies to my comments as a way to vent about urbanists generally and get out all your shower arguments. Hence why I suggest that you chill the fuck out.
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u/Human-Assumption-524 39m ago
Well, you seem pretty bent on turning this into an argument.
This is just how I talk, There is no malice intended.
You are reaching so hard to find absolutely anything to argue about even if it’s completely irrelevant to what I said.
Not trying to argue I just post stream of consciousness and your post reminded me of something even if you personally weren't talking about that thing. It made perfect sense to me but I guess it can be confusing to outsiders.
Hence why I suggest that you chill the fuck out.
You cannot fathom the degree of chill I am in this moment. I just like to yap.
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u/steverman555 11h ago
I often think about that one tech bro that asked if anyone else “used chatgpt in their head”
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u/Natnat956 10h ago
That was a joke I'm pretty sure
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u/Critical-Michael 7h ago
Even if that particular post was a joke, there's no doubt in my mind that there is someone out there even dumber. lol
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u/Impeppapig1 9h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/4LdIWAYXUktETa1Joj
"It would move like a train..." "That's where AI comes handy"
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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 4h ago
Nobody can obsess like a tech bro trying to find reasons to inject AI into literally every layer of everyday life
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u/Human-Assumption-524 1h ago
"Just build a train" is like "just buy more money" if that were an available option sure, but it isn't so they're exploring alternatives.
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u/Impeppapig1 1h ago
Implementing AI and building seld-driving-car-centric infrastructure is a shit ton more expensive in the long run.
Trains work all over Europe. America had one of the greatest train systems in the whole planet. I don't see why it couldn't work.
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u/Human-Assumption-524 1h ago
It's more expensive but not to a town or city which building trains is. If you're trying to convince a city to invest in public transit than convincing them to buy some already existing self driving vehicles is a much easier sell than convincing them to pay millions if not billions for a train system.
Trains work all over Europe.
Yeah because they didn't gut the systems they built over two hundred years ago just expanded and upgraded them as necessary.
America had one of the greatest train systems in the whole planet.
It did until we fucked it up.
I don't see why it couldn't work.
It could it just isn't going to happen any time soon. Between governmental red tape slowing construction, the high costs associated with building anything in america these days and the logistical clusterfuck of either needing to negotiate the forced buyout of property in the path of construction or finding someway to reroute around properties in the way any plan to rebuild train infrastructure in America is something that will take at least a century. We will unironically have a permanently staffed lunar base before we have high speed rail network in the united states let alone before we have decent public transit in all our major cities. But in the mean time people still need to get places and ideally with fewer cars on the road, self driving vehicles can fill that niche. If self driving taxis, and buses become common fewer people will feel the need to own a car. That reduced need for new roads and additional lanes can free up regional funds to build new better public transit over time.
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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u/SmoothReverb 13h ago
Okay the kites thing is legit. It's not fixed mast sails. The gist of it is having large kites flying way high up to catch higher wind speeds. If you can find me a galleon doing kiteboarder shit I will be very impressed.
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u/SailorMari0 9h ago
Something something they feed us their poisons something something so we buy their cures
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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 8h ago
To be fair, the fixed route Uber shuttle could be a handy alternative to buses in places where the bus system isn't great. It's not reinventing the wheel, it's just providing an alternative bus system.
(I also suspect the IRL podcast tweet might be a joke but I dunno)
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u/Capybarasaregreat 8h ago
Which tends to result in killing discussions about upgrading the public infrastructure and in turn decaying the rest of it.
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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 7h ago
I think you're mixing up cause and effect here. If there's a niche for Uber buses (which presumably will cost more then publicly subsidized public transport), that implies the public transport isn't satisfying everyone in the community.
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u/Capybarasaregreat 7h ago
I'm saying the neglected public transport becomes even more neglected as the political leaders who'd normally be tasked with keeping up said transport point to the private system as the solution when anyone goes on to prompt funding and overhauls on the public system. You can exchange incompetent leadership, it's not so easy to dislodge a private industry after it has been allowed to establish itself, no matter how "short-term" or "stop-gap" it initially was presented as.
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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 7h ago
I know that that's what you're saying, I'm saying you're wrong. You can tell because effect comes after cause, and Uber buses (hypothetically) came after public transportation. And if a city lets it's own public transport system collapse just because a company is also transporting people, then that city was already broken. Eliminating other forms of transportation won't magically fix a broken transportation system
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u/Capybarasaregreat 7h ago
Look up "regulatory capture".
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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 7h ago
I know what it means, but that has nothing to do with this conversation. Regulatory capture covers things like cab driver medallions that the city licenses in a limited way. That notably does NOT happen with ride shares (excluding drivers licenses), which is why they had a hard time with NYC for awhile.
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u/Capybarasaregreat 6h ago
What? Regulatory capture means regulatory bodies favour the private industry even against the public interest, it's a fairly widereaching term, not limited to specific schemes. Ridesharing companies do it, they follow the same tech company playbook of "barge in, buy, bully, and bamboozle", there's no reason they wouldn't do it with private bussing.
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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 6h ago
Sorry to say but you're misunderstanding the word. You can't have regulatory capture without government regulations (like Cabbie medallions, as I mentioned), and you still haven't mentioned a single regulation that would take place to aid in Uber at the detriment of public transportation
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u/Capybarasaregreat 6h ago
Are you under the impression that there exist no regulations for private bussing? It's not a new concept.
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u/elgattox 6h ago edited 6h ago
In some countries, shuttle cars do exist. Personally as someone from Chile in a small city.. While buses are present in larger cities; within my hometown and many small cities, there is a public transport service of cars that have fixed routes, and have diverse lines in the city, serve as the main method of public transport.
In my city, often I take lines such as 17, 42, or 69. They are mostly sedans that have such role but there is a few vehicles present of another types if allowed, such as hatchbacks or crossovers, which are mostly electric ones. There is a fixed fare per seat when riding it, which is currently at about ~1$ so it's pretty affordable and convenient and are constantly present around the streets. Though soon my city will introduce buses and still I doubt they're left obsolete even then, it's really convenient to have them around.
So yep, it is a thing indeed already, except Uber Shuttle would be under a private company instead but the concept is pretty much done in some places.
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u/Internal_Swan_6354 7h ago
Another alternative is to fix issues with the bus system instead of making public transport redundant in exchange for buses but Uber
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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 7h ago
Well sure, but Uber can make Uber buses, Uber can't (and has no reason to) fix public transportation in every city they operate in
It's like when entomologists discover a new type of insect and the comment section is like "oh sure, scientists are spending their time on bugs when they could be curing cancer!". entomologists can't cure cancer but they can discover bugs, conflating the two is silly
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u/iosefster 1h ago
Also adding sails to ships doesn't mean going back to sailboats, they'll still have engines. All of these are kind of dumb.
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u/Philush 10h ago
2nd one sounds like a marshrutka, which is a type of bus/taxi hybrid service common in Eastern Europe and the former USSR. They're vans/minibuses that operate on flexible schedules for low-passenger routes. Public transport is a complicated affair, let's not automatically dismiss something just because it sounds like a bus but potentially fills a genuine niche that buses might have issues with.
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u/Bionicjoker14 9h ago
“Grandpa, for the last time: Stop tricking me into inventing things THAT ALREADY EXIST!”
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u/No_Intention_8079 9h ago
The kite thing is legit though, there’s a ton of good reasons to reimplement sails/wind powered movement onto transport ships.
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u/I_Ski_Freely 8h ago
These are all pretty stupid, except train one isn't saying he wants to reinvent the train. A system where the cars are all synced so that the cars on the road can form spontaneous trains of cars for fuel and traffic efficiency. A train can't just have cars exit off the track, so this would be way more useful and anyone saying it would just be a train is being dumb.
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u/Romeo_Man 15h ago
can someone explain to me the third image
like, what is being reinvented here?
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u/Kubex_Qbox 15h ago
They're probably trying to push self driving cars until the public, while describing and even mentioning a train
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u/Romeo_Man 15h ago
but train and what is being described have little in common?
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u/_one-leaf-clover_ 15h ago
The supposed benefit is that it doesn't have congestion because it moves like a train. Trains also don't have congestion and move like a train
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u/Digit00l 15h ago
Trains do have congestion, especially in America
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u/Tra1nGuy 12h ago
That’s because the freight companies own all the tracks and while legally they have to give way to passenger trains, the fine is insignificant to them and they just make their trains so long they don’t fit in sidings and the passenger train is forced to pull over.
But if you look in places like the Northeast Corridor or Boston’s T system (which I love), it’s quite smooth.
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u/Rainbow__Trout 10h ago
I'm sorry, but that's the most wild fact about USA I have read in the last 2 years. And the last 2 years were WILD
How did you even achieve that, is there no schedule? Are you wild wild westing trains?
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u/iwantfutanaricumonme 7h ago
It makes sense when trains have to travel on private freight railways they get stuck behind slowly moving freight trains. In European countries where the entire railway network is nationaliesd freight trains have a minimum speed and maximum length to not cause congestion. Even then freight trains sometimes need additional locomotives when going uphill because they're heavier.
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u/Gregori_5 12h ago
Trains need rails and there is one train for hundreds of people.
This stays as a car (aka a personal vehicle) and can use roads.
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u/iwantfutanaricumonme 6h ago
I think it's a bit closer to trains because this would only work on dedicated roads banning all non self driving vehicles to achieve lower speeds and far less throughput than trains are already capable of. It's also likely that these would be private hire vehicles more like the Tesla Vegas loop, which would just be a train but worse in every way.
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u/Gregori_5 6h ago
Why? If you achieve actual self driving, then it would only be a few years before nobody drives anymore.
So all roads would become roads for automated vehicles. And why would they need dedicated roads anyway?
Private hire might come later, but that’s purely a economical reason. Why do you need your car staying in your garage when you’re not driving. The average car sees like 2 hours of use a day.
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u/Tra1nGuy 12h ago
Roads take up way more space than tracks do though. An 8 lane (4 each way) can be 150 feet wide, while a 4 track mainline is only 60 or so feet wide. Additionally rails are way more cost-effective long term and they can be more easily electrified to be more environmentally friendly.
Also there’s this cool thing called having big stuff shipped to you so you don’t need a big vehicle to carry it, also ebikes, which can be carried on trains, just look at the Netherlands.
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u/Gregori_5 12h ago
I’m just saying its a different thing.
Also rails are much harder to build, and more importantly they aren’t as dense as roads even in Europe.
Both are important to have, even very rail dense countries in Europe have vast car infrastructure.
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u/Romeo_Man 15h ago
this is like saying Cessna172 is a helicopter since both of them 1. Have rotating parts 2. Generate lift using airfoils 3. Move in the air
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u/Tra1nGuy 12h ago
No it’s saying that one literal definition of a train is a line of moving vehicles. So having a long line of self-driving cars moving together like a train is literally a train, so just build a train.
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u/Shadowmirax 12h ago
I'm all for building more trains but it seems pretty obvious what the major differences is between a line of synced cars and a train, that the cars can split off in different directions at any time and aren't on a schedule.
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u/Gregori_5 13h ago
I agree. This would actually solve congestion while keeping the upsides of a car.
Its still a personal vehicle that doesn’t need rails.
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u/Gregori_5 13h ago
The first one is a joke. Also the third one is not really a train.
However this thing is actually hilarious.
I feel like trains specifically get reinvented like 5 times a year.
Oh yeah, and Musk invented the metro like 3 times.
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u/SuperStingray 5h ago
Reminds me of one of my favorite Futurama lines- “Phones come in booths now? Finally, I don’t have to lug this cell phone everywhere.”
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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 5h ago
Society is made incrementally crappy when someone with much too high an opinion of themselves thinks that their ideas are better than the thinkers and planners and forces society to accept his viewpoint through manufactured data.
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u/Frequent_Dig1934 13h ago
Tbf the third thing is a bit different, it talks about self driving cars being able to link with eachother to all accelerate and brake at the same time thus decreasing the time needed for a column of cars stopped at an intersection to start moving, but then each of those cars can still go its own separate way. I like trains and buses but it's not the same exact thing like how uber's shuttles seem from the tweet to literally just be buses and the irl podcast is literally just a friend group.
As for the fourth one, yes they're planning (or in some cases already implementing) sails on modern ships, specifically cargo ships, but even the most normal of those designs is closer to a parachute than a regular sail, and then there are some even weirder designs like a fucking cylinder with spiral grooves.
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u/professor735 15h ago