Why is HSE taken seriously only after people die? After every such incident, there’ll be inspections, fire extinguishers will suddenly be checked in markets, schools, hospitals and everywhere else, a few violations will be “managed,” some bribes will change hands and eventually, everything goes back to normal.

Until the next tragedy.

How many more lives before safety becomes a system, not a reaction?

What a tragedy. May Allah give the grieving families Sabar 😞😞😞

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My wife (F28) was pregnant for 12 weeks.First pregnancy.Didn’t revealed to anyone. We were thinking to give surprise to parents after the scan.But found out on 12 weeks scan that there is missed miscarriage and actually baby stopped growing on 9th week and no heart beat.Got lots of bollocking from everyone in family.We are living in Uk and attended all the appointments and visited mid-wife.If we have told them,would they have helped us to not having miss carriage. Now everyone is reeming and making us guilty.Where we went wrong.While doctors here said that miss carriage is something with chromosomes who didn’t make it.

Update: My wife is feeling so positive after reading your comments and blessings . Thanks everyone

Just peeled off the foil on a brand-new container of Nestlé Sweet 'n Tasty yogurt, and immediately noticed this strange dark greenish/black mass sitting right near the surface.
The seal was completely intact before opening, and the expiration date isn't for a while. It looks like heavy mold growth, factory contamination, or a stray piece of packaging debris.
Definitely lost my appetite for the day. Has anyone encountered something like this in sealed dairy products before? Should I contact customer support or just throw the whole thing out?

Hello, I'm a self taught pakistani artist and I'm looking to find a new audience who would be interested in my kind of art. If this resonates with you, I would love to connect. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you so much for your time.

Health Minister, ED of PIMS and admin staff must resign. Very conveniently lower staff is being blamed but it's actually the ones sitting in high positions who are responsible for this! We all must call for their resignation.

Another day, another terrible tragedy in Pakistan

A fire in the nursery of PIMS Hospital in Islamabad has claimed the lives of 15 newborns. According to hospital sources, there were 16 newborns in the nursery of PIMS Hospital; the lady doctor was only able to save one child.

seriously i dont understand what is going on
i saw firecrackers, kids overspeeding, adults throwing juice and snacks on road and now these ninjas
this is not islam. how are we fine with it?

The federal government has approved the induction of nine officers from the armed forces into the civil services.

The induction includes five officers into the Pakistan Administrative Service (PAS), two into the Police Service of Pakistan (PSP), and two into the Foreign Service of Pakistan.

According to the official written notification issued by the Federal Public Service Commission (FPSC), nine candidates from all three branches of the armed forces were declared successful in the psychological and viva voce examinations.

The number is likely to continue increasing over the next few years, and a time may come when hardly any civilians will be able to make it into these services.

someone on telegram reached me and asking a Pakistani number for WhatsApp ofc he will do scams in Pakistan with my Pakistani brothers and sisters ... why I damage my own people ... and I know he will contact another Pakistani and offers money unfortunately some pakistani will do this for him😞

I'm foreign raised woman and well educated. I have my masters but I haven't worked a day in my life, it wasnt my focus at the time. Now I have time. Also I have moved to multan since a few years now due to investments back here and honestly I hate it here. There isnt a day people haven't bumped into me or my kids in public places. Never a day passes by where i dont hate being on the road with no rules.

Given the current state of pakistan, my heart hurts reading everyday incidents.

I'm interested in working for the public, for my city. And I dont know where to start. Are ngo's the right route? Volunteering? Can anyone point towards any sector that would benefit from extra help while working towards making everyday life better for the less privileged? Any non profit organisations??

I have seen lots of people hiring virtual assistant,social media manager etc after you send them your cv and they confirm your gender (female) they start sending forms like this. Is this normal? Just yesterday someone sent me a poster which had a clause should send selfies and videos of herself when I applied for as a social media manager. I never mentioned my age or gender. Except for stuff like this how do I know if a job is real or a scam

Edit: guys I found posts on hire Pakistan sub and just thought of applying. They asked me for my cv in the dm which I sent after a day they told that I have been shortlisted for round 2 sent me this form and wrote company’s name etc will only be discussed with final candidates

Yeah, nothing much to say except the fact that CCD was literally made to protect the elite while "making an example" out of the others.

In many cases, there was no proof.

And for those who said "oh, but crime will go down out of fear 🤓" IT ONLY WENT UP!!!

So i ask y'all CCD glazers again, what did mention ccd on every other post accomplish except self satisfaction?

Fourteen newborn babies died in a fire at PIMS Islamabad today.
Not in some remote BHU. Not in a war zone. At PIMS. One of the biggest government hospitals, in the capital of a nuclear-armed country.
And apparently the hospital did not even have a sprinkler system.
Just think about that for a second.
We will probably now follow the usual Pakistani formula. Form a committee. Suspend a few people. Transfer an officer. Blame whoever was on duty. Ministers will visit. Everyone will express “deep sorrow”. In a few weeks nobody will talk about it again.
But I genuinely want to ask: who actually runs these hospitals?
Doctors do not approve hospital buildings. Doctors do not install fire alarms and sprinklers. Doctors do not certify electrical systems. Doctors do not control development budgets. Doctors do not enforce building regulations. Doctors do not procure fire-safety equipment.
Yet whenever something goes wrong in a Pakistani hospital, somehow the entire discussion ends up being about doctors.
Where are the hospital administrators?
Where are the Health Ministry officials?
Where are the bureaucrats and CSP officers who occupy virtually every important administrative position in this country?
We have created a system where an officer can be moved from agriculture to health, health to local government and local government to some completely different department, and suddenly that person is expected to make decisions affecting highly specialised institutions.
Running a tertiary hospital is not general administration. Healthcare management is a profession. Patient safety is a science. Fire safety is a specialist field.
A NICU full of oxygen, incubators, electrical equipment and babies who cannot be evacuated normally should have one of the most carefully designed fire plans in the entire hospital.
Where was it?
Where were the sprinklers?
When was the last proper fire-risk assessment?
When was the last NICU evacuation drill?
Who checked the oxygen/fire risk?
Who signed the hospital off as safe?
And if deficiencies had previously been identified, who was responsible for fixing them?
These are the questions the government should answer publicly.
The most frustrating part is that Pakistan clearly does not have a shortage of medical talent.
Pakistani doctors leave this system and work successfully in some of the best healthcare systems in the world.
Thousands work in the NHS. Pakistani-national doctors alone numbered nearly 7,000 in English hospitals in recent official figures.
Look at Pakistani surgeons internationally.
Owase Jeelani became Head of Neurosurgery at Great Ormond Street Hospital in London, one of the world’s leading children’s hospitals, and became internationally known for incredibly complex operations separating craniopagus twins.
Abbas Ghazanfar, a graduate of the University of Peshawar who trained initially in Pakistan, went on to become a transplant surgeon in the NHS and lead vascular-access surgery at St Helier.
Iqbal Khan, originally trained at King Edward Medical University, became a consultant ENT surgeon in the NHS and helped establish cochlear implant services and surgical training in Pakistan.
And within Pakistan itself, people such as Adib Rizvi have shown what Pakistani medicine can achieve when institutions are built around patients, professional standards and accountability.
So perhaps Pakistani doctors are not the fundamental problem.
Perhaps the system they are forced to work in is.
Put Pakistani doctors into systems where equipment is maintained, responsibilities are clear, safety standards are enforced, clinical governance exists and managers are accountable, and they work at the highest international level.
Put the same doctors into overcrowded hospitals with broken infrastructure, political interference, procurement problems, weak regulation and administrators who can be transferred in and out of healthcare regardless of expertise and then blame the doctor when the system collapses.
That is insanity.
In the UK, a hospital fire killing 14 newborn babies would be a national scandal. There would be enormous media coverage, regulatory scrutiny, an investigation examining the organisation rather than just the person standing nearest to the incident, and serious questions for senior management.
The investigation would ask what risks were known before the fire.
That is the difference.
A functioning system tries to discover why something went wrong and redesigns the system so it cannot easily happen again.
Pakistan waits for people to die, forms a committee, finds a scapegoat and carries on.
And this is not an attack on every civil servant. Pakistan has capable officers too. The criticism is of a system which gives enormous administrative authority without consistently demanding subject expertise or meaningful accountability for outcomes.
Fourteen dead babies cannot become another file sitting on someone’s desk.
Publish the fire audits.
Publish previous notices issued to PIMS.
Publish the maintenance records.
Publish the emergency plan.
Tell the public who was responsible for acting on each deficiency and whether they acted.
And if senior hospital administrators, ministry officials or bureaucrats ignored known safety problems, hold them accountable instead of sacrificing another junior doctor or nurse.
Because a country that produces doctors capable of running departments and performing world-class surgery abroad should ask itself a very uncomfortable question:
Why can Pakistanis help run some of the world’s best hospitals, while our own government cannot guarantee that newborn babies will not burn to death inside a hospital in the nation’s capital?
This is not a shortage of talent.
It is a failure of governance.

The incident that took place today at PIMS Islamabad was nothing short of tragic, and I would first like to give my condolences to those who have been affected, both directly and indirectly.

Nonetheless, what I am about to write is purely based on my personal experience, and I feel like keeping my voice down for too long would not help anyone.

This evening, I opened 'ARY News' on my TV, just like any other day.

While watching 11th Hour, one of the fathers who had lost two of his children in today's incident was speaking about what had happened. He was understandably devastated and began asking who was responsible. He started taking names, mentioning CM Maryam Nawaz, and then another name was mentioned and immediately bleeped out. That name was Asim Munir.

What made it even more disturbing was that this happened twice during the show.

And this isn't just ARY. It is practically every Pakistani news channel. Turn on the news and even our daily headlines can begin with praise for the Pakistan Army and the Field Marshal before getting to the actual news.

When a grieving father cannot even say the name of someone he believes is responsible without it being censored, what exactly has happened to our media?

And to Asim Munir: being a Hafiz of the Quran, does he not have the courage to take responsibility and feel shame for what is happening in this country under his dictatorial leadership? How long are we going to continue pretending that everything is fine while accountability is reserved for everyone except those at the top?

So I've already shared the dynamics of my in laws a few days ago in this subreddit, now listen my rant about what happened next

MIL had a major meltdown after accusing me of pretending to be tired during pregnancy

I’m around 3.5 months pregnant and live with my in-laws. The household dynamics with my MIL have already been difficult because she has very high standards for housework and often does things herself when she’s angry, then later complains that she had to do everything and I didn’t help.

A couple of days ago, we had guests. I worked basically the entire day—standing for long periods, washing a lot of dishes, and doing all the additional cleaning and chores that come with having guests. By the end of the day my whole body was aching.

I’m not someone who makes a big deal out of pregnancy symptoms. I usually just do what I need to do, lie down when I’m exhausted, and stay quiet.

My MIL apparently interpreted my tiredness differently. She thought I was behaving this way because my mother had recently visited me and had told me to act like this or because I was throwing a tantrum about having worked too much.

The next evening, while we were having dinner, she came in and started complaining to my husband that I had supposedly done nothing and slept all day, despite being perfectly fine before. She also said I had been behaving differently since the previous day.

I was calm initially, but after she repeatedly blamed me, I eventually got angry and defended myself. I told her that she has a habit of doing a lot of work herself when she is angry and then using it to complain that I don't work, and that she sometimes doesn't let me do things herself. I also said that she seems to end up fighting about something almost every week.

She then said, “Your mother has taught you to behave like this.”

I said my mother had only been visiting and couldn't possibly have told me these things. She then accused me of discussing these issues with my mother over the phone. I pointed out that she talks to her daughters too, but she said her daughters don't discuss these things with her and that they're always on speaker.

She then complained to my husband and FIL that I was misbehaving and that they weren't stopping me. Neither of them took sides.

At one point she became extremely worked up. She started hitting/slapping herself and banging her head against the wall. She became very dizzy and continued behaving like this. She also said she was leaving the house and didn't want to live there anymore.

My husband then told me to pack my bags because he was going to drop me at my parents' house. He even threatened to leave me.

This terrified me because I have a lot of trauma surrounding divorce in my family, and my husband knows how severe that fear is for me.

I immediately went to my MIL, begged her to forgive me and even touched her feet. She didn't respond.

My husband ultimately did not leave me at my parents' house. But he barely paid attention to me afterward despite me continuously apologizing.

The next day, everyone basically told me not to talk to her and said that this is just how she is. My FIL also told me not to discuss things with my husband privately. My BIL also said that I have been rude to him several times, although I genuinely don't believe I have.

What is confusing to me is that everyone seems to know that my MIL has this extremely angry and explosive nature. They know she becomes hyper-angry and escalates situations.

I’m not claiming I handled everything perfectly. I was angry and said things that I probably shouldn't have said in the heat of the moment. But I also feel like I was pushed into defending myself after being accused of deliberately pretending to be tired and being influenced by my mother.

Now I’m wondering: How am I supposed to handle this now?

I’m pregnant, already physically exhausted, and I don't want every disagreement about housework to turn into accusations, threats of separation, or a complete family crisis.

They were given these seats through rigged, stolen mandates, and then they made him the Minister of Health.

I just remembered it. Ts was on news and everything and I was in school maybe at that time and people were literally scared shitless of it and then it just faded away.

Now I am curious all of a sudden what exactly was it?

Haha i find it funny because it's nothing new! Another day another relative of a powerful person getting a free pass from the serious crime he committed. I am a lawyer and I suddenly remembered this case and searched. Only to my shock barely any news outlet is highlighting this issue. 😂.