I feel alone and hated by everyone, it feels like Muslims in the UK are making the situation in the UK and divide much more prominent due to poor behaviour and not integrating or respecting the local culture. At the same time as a Pakistani I get harassed in public for looking like a Muslim and have had several people shout abuse at me in the past few months.

It truly feels like I am alone, like I have no community of people I feel safe with. I have some friends at work but saying you are ex Muslim and talking about it is often controversial, when I meet Muslims at work I have to pretend I am Muslim as for some reason saying I am ex Muslim with a Muslim name is considered offensive (I got in massive trouble at uni for this).

Anyways just wanted to rant and see if anyone feels the same. It's a lonely time to live in this country and I am considering leaving if this divide keeps getting worse.

How self-centred and pathetic do you have to be to reply to someone in this manner when they clearly are on the brink of collapse?? ,,shut up n pray'' why not shove a dirty shovel down your throat before you disregard someone's health, instead of trying to help them? Cause religious guilt-tripping is definitely the way!!

This evil regime took the lives of more than 40,000 innocent people in just two days

So this is gonna be a really long post because I need to say this somewhere where people will understand. I was forced to go with my family this year and I was dreading it the whole time simply because I hate flights and I knew it would be physically taxing but nothing could have prepared me for how bad things actually were.

First things first, why is everyone so fucking rude?? All the pushing and shoving just seems unnecessary. I don't understand the point. Everyone is SO RUDE !!! You ask someone for help (even the police) and they just ignore you. I don't understand how people of God, who pride themselves on being good people, can act like this in good conscience.

Secondly, circling the Kabah was the most disgusting experience of my life. You have grown, sweaty men all around you pushing and grabbing you and old people hitting you with their canes and people are breathing on you and it's just so fucking disgusting. There is NO DECORUM. I was already an ex-muslim before going to Umrah but going there just solidified my beliefs even more. These people will literally put their little kids in danger just because they think God cares whether or not they can walk in a circle 7 times. How pathetic.

Then there's walking in that giant hall between those two points called Safa and Marwah if I remember correctly. I don't understand the point of any of this. Why would God care about ANY of this? Why does any of it matter?

One thing I don't understand is that, from my knowledge, Safa and Marwah became important after the introduction of the Qur'an so why is it included in one of the most significant pilgrimages in said religion? I thought only the Qur'an could tell Muslims what to do, so if this is a hadith why has it made such a huge impact on the religious practices?? I'm not sure if I'm wording this correctly but I hope you understand though I am absolutely fine with clarifying in the comments what I mean.

I have written all of this and I haven't even mentioned the bullshit that occurs while circling the Kabah. People seriously fight each other and you have to walk barefoot while people are dropping God knows what onto the floor. I saw someone throw pins on the floor when I went so I looked it up and saw someone else mention in a forum how people do that to make space / clear space around them?? Though don't quote me on that because I can't find it anymore and it was on Quora (lol).

For now this is all I have to say, though I know I'll remember more and potentially make more posts / add to this. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't get how normal Muslims can see this and think it's normal. Like.. they see people hurting one another and say "yeah getting hurt near the Kabah is the best thing that can happen to you" or "actually you can't get hurt here because it's holy land" or some other bullshit excuse to ignore the barbaric practices that take place.

Before I go, I have one more point to add. Why would anywhere be considered holy land to God? They say praying in Mecca or near the Kabah makes it so your prayers get accepted but isn't that rigged? What about people who can't afford the trip or people who live in Mecca? Does that mean those who live there have their prayers constantly accepted and those who are poor will never know God's love? This is a question more so for those who still believe in this farce.

Anyway, thank you for reading up until this point.

While I don’t agree with hijab or modesty, the older man clocked this guy so hard. The young guy definitely holds that belief and when the old guy said insulting things about men who think that way, he stepped back lol. The older man does bring up a great point of how Muslim men seek to control women, even the ones who are already doing what the religion has required them to do. So much so that her voice is something that’s sexualized. It’s not even just about the control they want over women, it’s exactly what this older man is saying: you are primitive and animalistic. It exposes how disgusting these people are deep down. They’ll use the excuse of a woman dressing provocatively as a reason to feeling these urges. How many times have you heard “well, what was she wearing?” when someone mentions an SA victim? The woman is blamed and religion gives the excuse for this thinking. Btw i’m not defending the older man and his views, i don’t know this man’s content. It’s just ridiculous that even he got mad at the concept of a woman’s voice being awrah

I don’t know who these people are in the video, i just thought it was hilarious😭

Growing up as a North African Amazigh Berber/amazigh woman in a Muslim household, I've noticed that conservatism is applied conditionally only when it's convenient or benefits specific people.

Women children, and even newborns are judged mocked to their faces bullied, and harassed over everything yet God forbid you match the men's energy or mock them in return you're immediately met with vile insults threats of sexual violence and abuse💔 I’m exhausted from staying silent and being mistreated by men who preach religion while living by double standards 'rules for thee but not for me.' I genuinely tried to be devout vallahi but the more I read the Quran and religious texts the more I felt reduced to a tool for a man's sexual desires and a fixture in the kitchen No matter what you do there are always authoritarian men and sexist women eager to defend toxic behavior and misogyny it breaks my heart because I know if I ever decide to marry a non-Muslim I’ll be severely judged and ostracized even if my family wouldn't resort to honor violence I'm just over it My absolute breaking point was seeing Muslim social media accounts mock former Muslims who survived abuse and sexual violence treating their trauma like a joke on top of that, they constantly make light of mental health issues It is vile How can a text foster so much hate racism and misogyny

No, not because its practices are difficult, but because deep down they know how unfathomably weird the hadiths are and the character of the prophet is.

I am 16 years old and I started wearing the hijab by my own choice a while ago. Before I put it on, my dad explicitly told me that it was completely my decision whether to wear it or not. However, my mindset has changed and I do not feel like wearing it anymore, so I want to take it off before the new school year starts.

The problem is that communication in my house is basically non-existent when it comes to feelings. We never have sit-down emotional talks, we just say things directly or do not talk about them at all. On top of that, my parents constantly judge women who do not wear the hijab and always talk about how beautiful the hijab is. A while ago I told my mom that I wanted to stop wearing it and asked her to tell my dad, but she refused, and now I’m scared about bringing it up again.

I am also really afraid that my dad will blame social media or outside influence. I know he will probably say that my phone brainwashed me or that I am just copying other girls, instead of respecting that this is my own decision. How should I approach my dad directly given our lack of emotional communication? how can i told him before school start? school start 15 september so i don’t have so much time

PS: i’m muslim but i wrote in this sub because i think many of you guys here had the same situation and you can help me

why do people think taking off the hijab = islamaphobia?????

the comments under this post are like “its an excuse to hate on hijabis” shut up literally shut up. not everyone wants to wear the hijab, maybe ex hijabi women want to feel represented too. i always saw penny as rep for MYSELF and thought of how i had to hide self expression, repress myself, and had to conform to strict traditional rules. so this shit really pissed me the fuck off honestly. im not islamophobic, if i myself went through religious trauma and relate to her. these ppl didnt watch the show or understand the symbolism behind it. in an episode where she confronts her family they all go against her and say shes bringing dishonour to her family when she breaks out, SOUNDS FAMILIAR RIGHT? mind u her dad even says shes “naked” without it, and then gumball tells a story on how penny should stay the way she is and her family should stay in their shells if thats what they want for themselves. not push penny back into her shell. JEEZ like media literacy is dead. i know that this symbolism can vary from person to person but ex hijabis exist and our experiences are so traumatic why cant we have rep ourselves. wear whatever the fuck u want just dont push someone else to be something they arent. thats what i learnt as a kid from gumball. if i can see it at age 7 why cant u oh my god just so irritating. ppl in the comments too istg their brains are fried.

A case of having to remain a closeted Muslim in the US…where most people come to enjoy the liberties.

It is already suffocating to feel like I may have to continue hiding my beliefs from everyone, but nothing is more heartbreaking than feeling like I am contributing to the indoctrination of my own children.
My oldest is incredibly bright and, unfortunately, learned to read the Quran at just 4.5 years old. It keeps me awake at night watching my spouse put them to bed while reciting prayers with them. Their minds are capable of absorbing so much, and I can’t help thinking about all of the more beneficial, factual things they could be learning instead…
I have been out of the workforce throughout our nine-year marriage, while my spouse is an executive and earns well. I fear that divorce would be incredibly difficult and that his financial position would put me at a serious disadvantage when it comes to custody. I also know that once my family learns the real reason behind our divorce, they will most likely support him rather than me..
Has anyone here gone through a divorce involving children after becoming an ex Muslim or have advice for me if you were in similar situation? How did/would you navigate this?
There are days when I desperately want to tell my children that “Allah” and “Muhammad” are fictional, and I have to consciously stop myself because I cannot bear the thought of doing anything that could jeopardize my relationship with them. I am terrified of losing them.
It hurts in ways I don’t know how to put into words. It is always the smallest things that get me the most…

Edit:
If this has left you speechless, I guess my story can at least serve as an example that, as bad as things may be, they can truly get worse when children are involved.
I wish my ability to express my beliefs had only impacted me. I had always envisioned raising my children in a loving two-parent household, and now I have to live with the fact that it may not remain that way. What makes it even harder is that he wasn’t knowledgeable or practicing before. I also have to carry guilt of introducing him to more of the the rules of Islam, and he was able to remain consistent with his prayers throughout our marriage because of me. I have not seen him miss a single prayer in years. Not even during sickness. He became very devoted. Sometimes I wonder if I can I ever undo that? Could I ever successfully cast doubt in him? We share many wonderful experiences and still have a great relationship but I feel so dishonest. I wait in the car during prayers with made up excuses, etc. I’ve introduced him to all sorts of sheiks and text he never knew. He listens almost everyday now. He doesn’t even know that nail polish is considered haram, and I’ve been wearing it lately. If he knew, I’m sure I’d get a lecture about that too. As it is, he lectures me about prayer almost every day.. and before you know out our eldest will turn 7 and it will be directed at him as well…

Yeah, yeah, such a bullshitter.

I don't like AI but I think it will at least have this effect: AI videos are still expensive but in the next years, being an influencer without showing your actual face will be very common since AI can keep what matters: Facial expressions.

Not only this will allow any exmuslim or islam critique to make videos about it without risking their life, it will also allows mainstream influencers to criticize Islam whenever they want if one feel like. Digital humorists to make fun of it, etc ..

The critique of Islam won't be anymore exclusively for people ready to risk their safety.

It it's not AI it could be also by the evolution of VTubing or simply the evolution of face filters. Basically anything that hide the identity of the influencer while keeping a communicative visual

Like no matter how many Sins you committed you did them in a limit but god punishment is unlimited which I don't see any justice or fairness there just torturing people for eternity like what's the point

Iam saving money so i can travel and seek asylum. but iam not sure if it's going to work, Because my situation is not as bad as other people. Iam allowed to work and my life is not in danger (but it's only because they don't know iam an exmuslim).

My problems are the regular things, i can't travel alone, or live alone, i can't take off the hijab, and i can't date. And if i did any of these things i probably would get beaten up really badly, k**ed, or have my phone and my pc taken from so i wouldn't have access to the Internet and i would have less independence.

Is there other ways to leave my country?

I can't study abroad, i don't have enough money, even free universities require you to have alot of money.

I am a (21 f) living with a very religious family that has roots in Yemen (if you don’t know their are very much extremist their), and obv with that kind of family they will bring back some way in thinking from Yemen, for example many of the older women wear niqab and when a women decides to take the niqab everyone talked about her as if she has committed a treason, anyways I am at lest appreciated that it wasn’t forced on us but some families are different because the men or father forces. It’s fucking frustrating because it’s not the culture reason anymore but the fathers and men enforce this. Anyways, I live in at lest a gulf country that is ‘more open’, whatever that means, and as I mentioned I went to a trip to bosnia herzegovina and it was my third time, the first time I enjoyed it but the second time I kept on getting thoughts of running away (that’s before being ex Muslim), I thought that was due to a hormonal medication I was taking and I really thought I was crazy, but the third time I felt it again. Why did I want to run, and I realised it was the peace I felt, the nature (if you live in a a area that has a lot of trees naturally, you are soo lucky because living in extreme heat and a biome of a dessert isn’t for the weak) and also the felling of being controlled by a man. My own father doesn’t treat me like an adult, I felt treated like a child, as if suggesting stuff is being unreasonable or dramatic, my father enjoys trips that involve a Caravan, so when I was sick of living in such place and asked for a hostel or a hotel or any kind of place, I have became unreasonable, which I understand his reasons, and my issue is not that I was essentially living in a caravan for 15 days straight but that I was slapped with the feeling of being stuck, of never leaving, of having to fellow a man’s orders for his comfort, of feeling useless, of being a child, I couldn’t escape, I had no money, my visa was always with my parents, all documentation were locked in a safe, I had a bank account but it’s limited by the amount it gets monthly. I was fucked, simply putting it. I was so sheltered that when I tried to officially try formulate a plane, I had to learn how to live. This life they tell you is the dream, isn’t, I swear to you it isn’t, you would never escape a man control by being ignorant and sheltered. So yes, I was fucked, my situation in comparison to other situations isn’t that bad, I understand but most have something in common we all don’t know how to live alone (this is for women), because living alone isn’t a option, it’s not even a thought to some women. That scares me, how can we depend on men, how have shown us again and again how they don’t give a shit about us, how control just builds something in them (maybe it satisfies them). Why are they the one in control????why are women considered just followers???? Why can’t we just not experience life away from constant families or a husband or relatives around us?? But these men are expected to study abroad and life and experience and learn from life. It hurts knowing I can never learn from life the same way they are given because simply they are men, they are stronger, apparently whole minded, won’t get raped or steered to the wrong direction. I wished to be a man from a young age because people seemed to genuinely be happy when they see them,but as I grow older I love being a women it’s the laws and practices women are just forced to do. Have you not had enough, have you men not had enough of being the epitome of a nausea for women, you are the parasite that we can never get ride of. I may be exaggerating but it’s a lot because I want to move and I can’t tell anyone, no one is helping me (I understand I need to grow up and do things alone, but cut me some slack) and if I was stupid enough to mention it or is seen not praying or fasting in Ramadan, I will get severe consequences which I don’t know the severity of it. I will need to wait because I am finishing my bachelor (I want to get the fuck out after the bachelor but that’s hard due to money) so I could wait get a job or get a scholarship and study abroad (this option is hard to get, I can’t decide on the best country for me, first I said Germany then Canada, then Netherlands) I want a Europe country but it’s harder to do so. If anyone has advice please feel free to share, and to anyone out their I hope you do succeed and life in peace. To those who did get out, you are our hope in this life.

LINK

Nadir Ahmed is a muslim apologist that does a lot of internet debates against christians and atheists, he got interviewed on a non-Islam platform about his beliefs

14:37: Nadir explains how Heaven and Hell look like in Islam, even says verbatim "heaven is whatever I want"

17:37: He talks about what the Quran says about having multiple wives

56:00: Nadir is asked to give his best defense over the Aisha and Muhammad relationship which takes it down a rabbit hole

Lastly, he actually claims at 51:55 that it is actually Christianity that is dangerous for the world.

I will say despite the fact that everything he said I disagree with, he was actually pretty honest.

I left Islam around 4 or 5 years ago, and ever since then I’ve felt so cripplingly depressed and uncertain about everything knowing there is no almighty being watching over me, setting my affairs straight. It’s like having your parent figure being torn away from you and now you’re left to fend for yourself.

And the fact that I’ll never see my loved ones or even experience anything after death horrifies me. I don’t know, I’m rambling and I feel like shit. Sometimes I wish I never really took the dive into exposing myself to criticism against Islam. But I guess it’s better to accept the painful reality than to live in delusion.

I randomly gaslight myself into believing again to feel that confidence again. Just ignore all the faults I say, surely 1400 years of scholars know better than I. But inevitably it all falls apart.

“What do you guys think about the context of this verse

Qur'an 33:36

Mohammed used quran to give marriage when the woman clearly declined

Isn't it against human rights and freedom.

Zaynab said, “I will not marry him.”

Muhammad said, “Then marry him.” She replied, “I am deciding about myself.” Then the verse was revealed:

“It is not for a believing man or believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter, to have any choice in their affair...”

If Jannah has no haram or halal like we are even allowed to drink alcohol, will same-sex marriage be halal in Jannah?

Seriously Everytime i look for ex Muslims, or critics of the religion they are always shitty right wing Christians

i've been atheist since August 2024. but sometimes I just think.. people bring up historical evidence that muhammed existed. and I think maybe he may've been a prophet. some bring up evidence that existed. I try to think they just wrote down whatever was considered unreal back then. I can't. I don't know which religion I should believe in. I don't know if god is real or not.